I wouldn't characterize 45% of your citizenry wanting to secede as a small thing....
And I wouldn't characterize a vote to keep an entire country together by a mere 10% "decisive" either.
Granted, Scotland was doomed to fail had it succeeded.....they have no desire to be free and wish to live under the yoke of socialism. Problem is, by cutting their tax base and ruining their ability to borrow on UK government credit, they would never had made it work regardless.
If they'd adopted a truly free market system and went for individual liberty rather than continued sucking from the government teat, they may have had a chance. Things would have been hard for the first few years....but prosperity would have soon followed, the likes of which are rarely seen today.
had the vote been in favor of secession, one hopes that SNP would quickly learn its lesson, fail, and disintegrate -- leaving behind two conservative, friendly neighbors.
75% of the "no" vote came from ages 65+ and with their health managed by the socialist NHS they currently enjoy as a UK member, i figure the day is coming sooner rather than later.
@Anonymous: "I wouldn't characterize 45% of your citizenry wanting to secede as a small thing...."
It all depends on how insistent that 45% is. If they were hardliners, that percentage would probably force the issue beyond what the 55% who don't want it say, unless, of course, the "No" group was equally hardline.
But if 45% prefer secession with about the same ardor that they prefer chocolate shakes over vanilla, the government can pretty safely ignore them.
I don't know where William "Braveheart" Wallace or "Rob Roy" McGregor are buried but there have to be loud, high-pitched humming noises coming from those places.
As a Scot living in America I burned my copy of Braveheart , a pure work of fiction. If they want to live under the thumb of London Banks than so be it.They can trade their kilts for skirts , I will keep my Claymore sharp and at the ready.
Yes, Mr. Cyborg, the term "braveheart" came from Robert the Bruce, not William Wallace. Bruce's dying wish was that his heart be taken on a crusade, since he had not been able to go on one while alive. Several of his followers duly took the heart, enclosed in a silver case, on a trip to the Holy Land, but were attacked and overrun by the Saracens in what is now Spain on the way. As he fell, the Black Douglas, keeper of Bruce's heart, threw it towards the enemy, saying "Forward brave heart, as thou wert wont." The heart was returned after the battle, and is buried at Melrose Abbey.
Even socialists need to live somewhere. Preferably, in a place that has no control over people who are not socialists. Secession is a remedy even when the people seceding are not your favorites. The more secession there is, the better.
This country would be much better off, if the District of Columbia was evicted from it. Now THAT's secession...
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Neither will I but you can almost hear the British labour party exhale and start breathing again....
Probably would have started the economic collapse that is raging just beneath the peaceful surface.
There's no avoiding it now....we're just buying time.
I wouldn't characterize 45% of your citizenry wanting to secede as a small thing....
And I wouldn't characterize a vote to keep an entire country together by a mere 10% "decisive" either.
Granted, Scotland was doomed to fail had it succeeded.....they have no desire to be free and wish to live under the yoke of socialism. Problem is, by cutting their tax base and ruining their ability to borrow on UK government credit, they would never had made it work regardless.
If they'd adopted a truly free market system and went for individual liberty rather than continued sucking from the government teat, they may have had a chance. Things would have been hard for the first few years....but prosperity would have soon followed, the likes of which are rarely seen today.
Oh well....there's always hope we can do it here.
well, england would have been better off, anyway.
had the vote been in favor of secession, one hopes that SNP would quickly learn its lesson, fail, and disintegrate -- leaving behind two conservative, friendly neighbors.
75% of the "no" vote came from ages 65+ and with their health managed by the socialist NHS they currently enjoy as a UK member, i figure the day is coming sooner rather than later.
@Anonymous: "I wouldn't characterize 45% of your citizenry wanting to secede as a small thing...."
It all depends on how insistent that 45% is. If they were hardliners, that percentage would probably force the issue beyond what the 55% who don't want it say, unless, of course, the "No" group was equally hardline.
But if 45% prefer secession with about the same ardor that they prefer chocolate shakes over vanilla, the government can pretty safely ignore them.
I don't know where William "Braveheart" Wallace or "Rob Roy" McGregor are buried but there have to be loud, high-pitched humming noises coming from those places.
As a Scot living in America I burned my copy of Braveheart , a pure work of fiction. If they want to live under the thumb of London Banks than so be it.They can trade their kilts for skirts , I will keep my Claymore sharp and at the ready.
Yes, Mr. Cyborg, the term "braveheart" came from Robert the Bruce, not William Wallace. Bruce's dying wish was that his heart be taken on a crusade, since he had not been able to go on one while alive. Several of his followers duly took the heart, enclosed in a silver case, on a trip to the Holy Land, but were attacked and overrun by the Saracens in what is now Spain on the way. As he fell, the Black Douglas, keeper of Bruce's heart, threw it towards the enemy, saying "Forward brave heart, as thou wert wont." The heart was returned after the battle, and is buried at Melrose Abbey.
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Even socialists need to live somewhere. Preferably, in a place that has no control over people who are not socialists. Secession is a remedy even when the people seceding are not your favorites. The more secession there is, the better.
This country would be much better off, if the District of Columbia was evicted from it. Now THAT's secession...
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