Wednesday, February 10, 2016

Nothing like out-of-control yahoos to discredit a cause.

Two days after Finicum funeral, hotel maid finds gunshot damage in room

12 comments:

Uncle Elmo said...

Is it possible that this 'accidental discharge' was not accidental? Could it have been a shot fired by someone wishing to discredit a cause?

Anonymous said...

I hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but there could be more to this than meets the eye. I just find it strange that they say no one was in the room when it happened (which of course could be an outright lie) and no other guests heard the shot ( could have been suppressed). Now, if no one was truly there, and a suppressor was used, that could be a way of someone sending a "message". That you can be hit anytime we want to, even when you're in bed sleeping( they said the round was lodged in a headboard)...Then again it could be as simple as some a*&hole discharging a round in a hotel room..

Anonymous said...

Crap! The STUPID runs strong in some folks. This is exactly what we don't need while trying to raise our legitimacy and street cred. Un-freakin-believable.

Anonymous said...

Gads. First the Nuge and now this. Gotta love those unforced errors.

NTS

PO'd American said...

What a STOOPID article....what does 2 days or 48 hours after an event have anything to do with with the actual event? Seems to be a huge stretch to associate the event and some Dumbass action in a hotel. Did I really miss something here?

Chiu ChunLing said...

If your cause doesn't attract any out-of-control yahoos, you've got no credibility to lose anyway.

I say that as someone who winces every time someone chambers a round unnecessarily. I've been around people I think could afford to take gun safety a bit more seriously, just the other day I had to ask, "are you using your hat as a clearing barrel?"

It's not that I'm fond of armed yahoos, or even that unsafe behavior doesn't irritate me at least as much as someone cutting loose some unsubtle flatulence and immediately trying to light it.

But the fact remains, if your cause doesn't attract any yahoos, it's not much of a cause.

Anonymous said...

Anyone consider it was a fbi that "accidentally" discharged his weapon?

Anonymous said...

This is what I have been saying. It took the recreational marijuana people 30 years to realize their singular biggest problem was a perception problem. As long as their spokespeople looked like degenerate stoner idiots no one would take them seriously. Then they got lawyers, former cops and the ACLU involved and now it's a thing. The patriot movement suffers from both a strong, palpable message (and goal) as well as too many crazy ass weirdos who have usurped the brand. The message is broadcast as a scattered, at time paranoid, mish-mash of differing theories and ideals. Combined with some legal theories that have been litigated and debunked repeatedly, the patriot movement is currently synonymous with the tinfoil hat, conspiracy theory crazies which from the outside doesn't appear to be the message you are looking to impart.

That and the selective literal interpretation of the constitution makes it far to easy to dismiss you all in bulk. By selective I mean clinging to the 2nd amendment as if it were the word of god but ignoring the rest of the document like the system of checks and balances that leaves out armed occupation. If you think the Supreme Court justices are behaving illegally you can decide to impeach them or you can decide you know the law better and just ignore their rulings when you don't like a part or all of a decision.

Unless and until you decide to take yourselves more seriously, dress, talk and act like professionals, you will find yourselves out in the cold being mocked by dildo deliveries and labeled ya'llqueda.

That, however, is just what I think and I only craft messages and change minds for a living is all.

Anonymous said...

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Chiu ChunLing said...

Yeah, we're really going to have to accept that image problems are no longer a valid concern.

ag42b said...

People wearing items that identify themselves as militia? When I wheel somewhere in my "100 Heads Insurance" cap, no one where I live considers me an extremist, just a guy in a wheelchair protecting his Constitutional rights. Mass media needs to get over the fact that people like to wear the Gadsden flag as a freedom of expression message. They should concentrate on people's actions, not on their clothing, or emblems attached to it. In the days of the Founders, militia wore a wide variety of uniforms; the CT Governor's Foot Guard, still wears their red coats, tri cornered hats and busbies, on ceremonial occasions. They are the oldest state militia. VT State Guard wears BDU uniforms to musters and events. The state police designed their patch and emblem from the original State Guard patch.

Anonymous said...

No, Chiu ChunLing, you should likely accept that image is your more pressing concern. Unless and until the movement can get ordinary people to listen, the message will never, ever be heard. You'll be relegated to the ranks of conspiracy theorists and the dude who's gone to every comicon ever.