Democratic members of Congress apparently aren’t going to be satisfied until American citizens are completely and utterly defenseless.
The author doesn't think the GOP and the NRA will sell us out on this one, but given past history that's not the way to bet.
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Comrade X
This bill or one like it pops up every six months or so. I'm pretty sure the guy proposing it has stock in Condor and AR500.
That's it. I'm ordering mine today. Four vests with Type 4 front shooters cut and full square back.
Type four, or whatever type that stops a 30.06 AP round.
Y'know, I'd appreciate a Praxis post on body armor, especially on soft armor. You might have done this before, but I couldn't find it.
Steve
While OBVIOUSLY a tool of self defense, a body armor isn't, just as obviously, a arm. This highlights the pretzel logic SCOTUS used in Heller trying to insulate the blow that McDonald would bring.
Ok ok, defense is a "core" of the Second Amendment but that's just logical common sense - security of a free state (of being and nation both) the essence of it is plain - guns swords rocks knives cannons bombs ALL of it ....arms... Weapons, heck pencils, are the real "core".
I believe the goal of body armor legislation is to undermine the SCOTUS core - self defense. How so? Like this. Make body armor illegal intending to see it challenged - have SCOTUS say it's not a "arm" so it's not protected by the Second. Useful in the military countext will be troublesome to surpass but the intent, remember is confound the "core" ruling.
Body armor is CLEARLY a self defense item yet it's not an arm. Wait, could it be that "arms" literally means ANYTHING "offensive" AND "defensive"? Maybe this isn't quite so obvious after all. And there it is - the "core" goal of Citizen Disarmists- muddy the waters of a debate actually settled long ago in order to hold on to any amount of disarming they can manage.
Hi Mike,
This is so funny!!! Ole' rep mike h and his corny ideas!! Did I say "Corny!!" 'Wonder what the boy 'been smokin', 'he got to learn how to "tchare," man! (a "hip" corruption of the word 'Share').... A couple of pints of wine and cases of beer ago, among my collection of "Shingles" I've collected over the years, I was "Quality Manager" (for "a while") for "Paraclete Body Armour!!!" in St. Paul's NC. Yup, the old rigger got a job with old scary "Tim" back in "ought 3" fun job!! might I digress!! Besides all the "dot gov" contracts, if you got the bucks, you got the vest!!! It's a commodity like milk, gasoline, gunpowder and or chewing gum!! Well, what is a "Bullet proof vest" nothing other than a "personal Security System!!" So now how about your "Home monitoring security system!!" that tells you when the "Swat team" is getting ready to bust down your door??" Why doesn't he out law those too as they do the same thing, (know what I mean??) Security??? "Cocked and locked, ready to rock!!!" Don't tread on me!!
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skybill-out
Rep. Mike Honda can go ban himself.
I fail to see what possession of body armor has to do with interstate commerce and how Congress has the power to regulate possession or usage.
One problem with current soft body armor technology is that the polymer fibers deteriorate over time, especially if they are ever laundered or exposed to ultraviolet light (but it still takes place even if you never take the vest out of the factory plastic wrap), and the level of protection they afford is constantly diminishing. Helmets and vests need to be replaced every several years, much like tritium sights.
The ultra-strong polymers owe much of their strength, it seems, to somewhat unstable arrangements of molecular bonds. The reason Second Chance went out of business is that they tried a new formulation that they thought would last longer, which instead deteriorated faster than they anticipated. If anyone ever invents a polymer fiber suitable for body armor that has an unlimited shelf life, he'll become a billionaire. People have been working on carbon nanotubes, diamond polymer fiber, and so on for a while, but none of it is ready for prime time yet.
It occurs to me, though, that unless they mean to ban every application of every type of extremely strong polymer fiber, it seems to me that, in the event of a ban, someone might make some money making sweater vests with layers of woven kevlar panels for insulation--everyone who's ever worn kevlar knows how hot it is.
SCOTUS is retarded. Besides, even if they ruled body armor wasn't protected by the 2A it would still be protected by the 9A. AND it would still be protected from regulation because body armor is NOT an enumerated power granted to the govt, period. The powers granted to the federal govt are on external objects, war, peace, negotiation, foreign commerce. Through construction they have amended the US Constitution without actually amending it. And that's unconstitutional, period.
THAT is how the US Constitution is supposed to be read and applied, not this absurd "constitutional law" baloney. Constitutional law has nothing to do with the constitution, it has to do with precedent, and that is how the retards at SCOTUS read and interpret the constitution and that's how the statists come up with their ridiculous rulings.
Mike Honda just put a huge target on his own chest for when the shooting starts...
Ed, you fail to understand - like a gun, you gotta buy and sell body armor. That means it is "in commerce" and we all "know" that government is empowered to "regulate commerce"....
Ed, literally all gun control is rooted "in commerce" based on the canard that "among the several STATES" actually, really, means "among the people among the several states"... Uh huh. Yup. That's the ticket.
Additionally, there is a ninth AND a tenth amendment issue here and there is also a fourth and even a fifth too. Might states have authority even if fedgov doesn't? But then how can't it be private property we must be secure in ? Affects? The sheer weight of the number of amendments in play SHOULD demonstrate easily that this ISNT a gubmint power, but a right of the people themselves...
The real issue, clouded and couched as it is, comes back to slaughterhouse cases and privileges and immunities. Anyone not familiar with those things should stop look and learn. THATS where the final battle will come to pass.
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