Osceola's capture, under a controversial flag of truce offered by Gen. Thomas Jessup, remains today one of the blackest marks in American military history. If the Feds return in force to the Bundy Ranch, the event might turn out to be the bloodiest since Waco. Sadly, it looks like it'll take some bloodshed on part of the Feds for them to finally realize we've been pushed enough.
I hope no one else missed it; but throughout the interview with Neil Cavuto, Ron Paul alluded to a coming economic crises. Before the FEDS return to the Bundy Ranch in force, they need to take the pulse of the American people. Even if a forceful assault were "successful", it will be long remembered. When economic collapse comes, it will be avenged. That, is worth thinking about.
Hmm.. will Ron Paul stand up for me when I use National Park land to grow my crops. I like this new definition of 'rule of law'. Hell, maybe I can get some of the BLM land up North of here, too. Suggest we ALL take advantage.
I'll make my new property available for militia training. Come on down..
Anon. 12:21. I get it that all here think the Fed's will attack Waco style, just to prove something. Or maybe to draw militia folk in and attempt destruction of them.
But I think their 'kinder/gentler' approach will be court-ordered seizing of the Brady's bank accounts and stopping sales of cattle. Slow financial strangling. Unless they already tried this to no avail. By the way, how much of the BLM tracts (there are several) are the Brady's claiming as theirs.
I's a sad state of affairs when government of the people, by the people and for the people has degraded to a condition where the people are considering armed rebellion against said govt. Recall, folks, the govt controls the media, controls the military and controls virtually all forms of organized force. Recall also that the govt. is amoral when it comes to women, children, innocent bystanders and private property. You can recall Ruby Ridge & the Branch Davidians and the deaths of all of the above. There is clearly a reason that the govt. through its many agencies is preparing for armed conflict. It is my sad conclusion, that if ultimately there is violence and bloodshed at the Bundy Ranch, it will begin a very dangerous and horribly divisive chapter in the history of the United States.
"Sadly, it looks like it'll take some bloodshed on part of the Feds for them to finally realize we've been pushed enough."
I hate to break it to you but they won't be backing off at all because they control public perception, through their media buddies. They can therefore do anything they wish, even murder, and get away with it. Just as long as they kill the right people.
You see the trigger pullers are true believers and have been vetted and trained as such and besides they have their powers and retirements to think about.
What the news media tell you about it will be the very best lies that they can come up with, both fast and furiously imparted to the unknowing public.
http://nationalreport.net/multiple-militia-members-arrested-bundy-ranch-charged-domestic-terrorism/ "Federal agent Paul Horner, a 14-year veteran of the force, spoke with National Report by phone and had this to say: “Under direct orders from the FBI and the DOJ, on behalf of the BLM, we have infiltrated the crowd with armed undercover agents. The agents are collecting intel and coordinating that information with drones that are also overseeing the disturbance. In addition, we have positively identified approximately 85% of the crowd and are running background checks for previous violations, warrants, etc. License plate numbers of protesters are being collected and entered into the national database as well. These right-wing extremists pose a serious threat to the safety of the operation and we have orders to make arrests.”
Here is an interesting article. I wonder if it is true?
I just don't think they'll do it. They must know how bad it would look. Maybe I'll be proved wrong, but this would be a political nightmare if they tried to pull it off.
Which reminds me - We the People still have some unfinished business with the criminal perpetrators of the Waco masacre ... and a few others besides ...
How dare the Bundy's stand in the way of "the connected" ("Highway Harry" Reid and his son) and their efforts to enrich themselves by collaborating with the Chinese. Like all drunk on a sense of their own power, these traitors will not quit until they are put down like the rabid dogs they are. The Bundy's and all around them need to start digging fighting positions NOW.
Also, I was struck by the preponderance of AK's among the protestors. Open range Nevada is not the ideal terrain for such a weapon, these people need to be putting their money into rifles capable of accurate long range fire. Telescopic sights and night vision capability, even thermal sights are a must. Spend all you can and then some, it will seem cheap at twice the price later.
After they have acquired such, they need to buy at least 2K rounds of ammo each and PRACTICE. Lay out range cards and prepare hardened positions beforehand, you will have no time later. Don't neglect comm's, I suggest field telephones wherever possible since the forces of Sauron WILL monitor/jam any radio signals they detect, and triangulate to detect their source.
DO not limit yourselves to the defense on your opponents terms. Consider having capable men and women suitably equipped and prepared beforehand (target intell and surveillance) to carry the fight to the enemy's command structure at the point where siege is laid.
Puts to bed a lot of the poorly researched "news stories" surrounding the reasons for the standoff with the Bundys...and validates the Reid connection.
What the gov't. doesn't understand is people will fight and even die to protect there rights and freedom. gov't. agents in general will not do the same for a paycheck. The ones that are willing to obey there masters might just as well end up in a box!
There were all types of weapons there. AKs, ARs, 30/30s, bolt actions with scopes and just about every kind of pistol you could imagine. Thankfully none had to be used. The second amendment was successfully exercised on Saturday, and can be used in future gun rights battles for decades to come.
BTW a Ma Deuce on the north side of the westbound bridge would have been nice in the right hands.
"Hmm.. will Ron Paul stand up for me when I use National Park land to grow my crops. I like this new definition of 'rule of law'. "
Hmmm, I don't see "National Park land" in the Constitution, which is allegedly the highest law of the land. Do try to get out of boot-licking mode.
"I hate to break it to you but they won't be backing off at all because they control public perception, through their media buddies. They can therefore do anything they wish, even murder, and get away with it."
Well, there is this thing called the Internet... One can only hope the feds are so rash and stupid as to do something like that. It would really help the Revolution. But I don't think they are that dumb.
No, they will do as someone here mentioned. They will lawyer Bundy to death, and freeze his assets. Of course if Bundy still has his money in a bank, he is an idiot.
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Osceola's capture, under a controversial flag of truce offered by Gen. Thomas Jessup, remains today one of the blackest marks in American military history.
If the Feds return in force to the Bundy Ranch, the event might turn out to be the bloodiest since Waco.
Sadly, it looks like it'll take some bloodshed on part of the Feds for them to finally realize we've been pushed enough.
I hope no one else missed it; but throughout the interview with Neil Cavuto, Ron Paul alluded to a coming economic crises. Before the FEDS return to the Bundy Ranch in force, they need to take the pulse of the American people. Even if a forceful assault were "successful", it will be long remembered. When economic collapse comes, it will be avenged. That, is worth thinking about.
Hmm.. will Ron Paul stand up for me when I use National Park land to grow my crops. I like this new definition of 'rule of law'.
Hell, maybe I can get some of the BLM land up North of here, too.
Suggest we ALL take advantage.
I'll make my new property available for militia training.
Come on down..
Anon. 12:21.
I get it that all here think the Fed's will attack Waco style, just to prove something. Or maybe to draw militia folk in and attempt destruction of them.
But I think their 'kinder/gentler' approach will be court-ordered seizing of the Brady's bank accounts and stopping sales of cattle. Slow financial strangling.
Unless they already tried this to no avail.
By the way, how much of the BLM tracts (there are several) are the Brady's claiming as theirs.
I's a sad state of affairs when government of the people, by the people and for the people has degraded to a condition where the people are considering armed rebellion against said govt.
Recall, folks, the govt controls the media, controls the military and controls virtually all forms of organized force.
Recall also that the govt. is amoral when it comes to women, children, innocent bystanders and private property. You can recall Ruby Ridge & the Branch Davidians and the deaths of all of the above.
There is clearly a reason that the govt. through its many agencies is preparing for armed conflict.
It is my sad conclusion, that if ultimately there is violence and bloodshed at the Bundy Ranch, it will begin a very dangerous and horribly divisive chapter in the history of the United States.
Anonymous @ April 15, 2014 at 12:21 PM
"Sadly, it looks like it'll take some bloodshed on part of the Feds for them to finally realize we've been pushed enough."
I hate to break it to you but they won't be backing off at all because they control public perception, through their media buddies. They can therefore do anything they wish, even murder, and get away with it. Just as long as they kill the right people.
You see the trigger pullers are true believers and have been vetted and trained as such and besides they have their powers and retirements to think about.
What the news media tell you about it will be the very best lies that they can come up with, both fast and furiously imparted to the unknowing public.
http://nationalreport.net/multiple-militia-members-arrested-bundy-ranch-charged-domestic-terrorism/
"Federal agent Paul Horner, a 14-year veteran of the force, spoke with National Report by phone and had this to say: “Under direct orders from the FBI and the DOJ, on behalf of the BLM, we have infiltrated the crowd with armed undercover agents. The agents are collecting intel and coordinating that information with drones that are also overseeing the disturbance. In addition, we have positively identified approximately 85% of the crowd and are running background checks for previous violations, warrants, etc. License plate numbers of protesters are being collected and entered into the national database as well. These right-wing extremists pose a serious threat to the safety of the operation and we have orders to make arrests.”
Here is an interesting article. I wonder if it is true?
Shane
I just don't think they'll do it. They must know how bad it would look. Maybe I'll be proved wrong, but this would be a political nightmare if they tried to pull it off.
Which reminds me - We the People still have some unfinished business with the criminal perpetrators of the Waco masacre ... and a few others besides ...
III
How dare the Bundy's stand in the way of "the connected" ("Highway Harry" Reid and his son) and their efforts to enrich themselves by collaborating with the Chinese. Like all drunk on a sense of their own power, these traitors will not quit until they are put down like the rabid dogs they are. The Bundy's and all around them need to start digging fighting positions NOW.
Also, I was struck by the preponderance of AK's among the protestors. Open range Nevada is not the ideal terrain for such a weapon, these people need to be putting their money into rifles capable of accurate long range fire. Telescopic sights and night vision capability, even thermal sights are a must. Spend all you can and then some, it will seem cheap at twice the price later.
After they have acquired such, they need to buy at least 2K rounds of ammo each and PRACTICE. Lay out range cards and prepare hardened positions beforehand, you will have no time later. Don't neglect comm's, I suggest field telephones wherever possible since the forces of Sauron WILL monitor/jam any radio signals they detect, and triangulate to detect their source.
DO not limit yourselves to the defense on your opponents terms. Consider having capable men and women suitably equipped and prepared beforehand (target intell and surveillance) to carry the fight to the enemy's command structure at the point where siege is laid.
Good Luck to you.
Mike,
Might wanna watch and then post this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndQjr9MFnk8
Puts to bed a lot of the poorly researched "news stories" surrounding the reasons for the standoff with the Bundys...and validates the Reid connection.
What the gov't. doesn't understand
is people will fight and even die
to protect there rights and freedom. gov't. agents in general
will not do the same for a paycheck. The ones that are willing to obey there masters might just as well end up in a box!
There were all types of weapons there. AKs, ARs, 30/30s, bolt actions with scopes and just about every kind of pistol you could imagine. Thankfully none had to be used. The second amendment was successfully exercised on Saturday, and can be used in future gun rights battles for decades to come.
BTW a Ma Deuce on the north side of the westbound bridge would have been nice in the right hands.
"Hmm.. will Ron Paul stand up for me when I use National Park land to grow my crops. I like this new definition of 'rule of law'. "
Hmmm, I don't see "National Park land" in the Constitution, which is allegedly the highest law of the land. Do try to get out of boot-licking mode.
"I hate to break it to you but they won't be backing off at all because they control public perception, through their media buddies. They can therefore do anything they wish, even murder, and get away with it."
Well, there is this thing called the Internet... One can only hope the feds are so rash and stupid as to do something like that. It would really help the Revolution. But I don't think they are that dumb.
No, they will do as someone here mentioned. They will lawyer Bundy to death, and freeze his assets. Of course if Bundy still has his money in a bank, he is an idiot.
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