It's just like when Lincoln threw any newpaper editors in jail that did not agree with his socialistic policies. (or anyone else for that matter, 13,000 total with NO writ of habeas corpus)
Time to get familiar with p2p dns http://digitizor.com/2010/12/01/the-pirate-bay-co-founder-starting-a-p2p-based-dns-to-take-on-icann/ and Tor http://www.google.com/m/url?client=ms-android-verizon&ei=ssL6TND9BaGutgfpnNSJAw&q=http://www.torproject.org/&source=android-home&ved=0CBIQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNG6M_KwRJ6xp5gYI-fy9LQAayHm1Q
'Diaspora' is a distributed P2P private network where separate computers connect to each other directly using secure protocols (PGP), without going through a central server of some sort.
I can't tell if this was done at the Fed.gov behest, or by corporate fiat. Corporations which take action on purely ideological grounds are rare; the overwhelming majority are solely interested in money, profit, the bottom line, and little else.
It wouldn't surprise me to learn that the Fed.gov leaned on the ISP, but I don't know.
we need to get some lists of reliable proxy servers going too. (Including US based ones)
I used to use wattproxy, but it won't let me in these days.
In the present case, I think a number of servers are evicting wikileaks out of disgust and shame, hence the remaining servers have reduced band width. I don't think it is official censorship - YET!
Times are getting interesting though, so download all you think you might ever need, and some more too, just incase...
No, Justin that route don't work either. Go and see all the dead links at the RTC Wiki-Leak has been pulled from the Internet at least in the U.S. But Maybe if you try a ink through the U.K or Gemany ya still might be able to get something.
I second the suggestion to become familiar with TOR. It won't help once a site is truly taken down, but it will probably get you there in cases of regionally selective denial of access. It's easy to use. Just Google TOR.
For many non-tech users of the Intertubes (moi included), the slightest blip in access via the major search engines is enough to moot the inquiry.
I'd be happy to publish hard info showing that the FedGov is without a hand in the Wikileaks access degradation, or for that matter, any hard info in what/who is behind those access issues.
Anyone who has it, pls link it via comments over at WRSA.
In the meantime, I'll stick with the target of the leaks having the means, motive, and opportunity to restrict (overtly, covertly, explicitly or implicitly) access or attempt thereto.
A philosophical question: if someone takes a shot at you and misses, does that miss thereby erase their intent towards you when the hammer fell?
Did anyone besides me read the comments at WRSA? Damn glad the only link I have to that s(h)ite is via Sipsey Street. Doesn't look like them folks think much of us'n here.
I don't give a shit.
I still believe that Bradley Manning is a traitor and ought to be shot. The asshole who runs Wikileaks ought to be next in lie behind him. Manning broke his oath and broke faith with his comrades in arms. Those two things alone are worthy of being fragged.
Yes there is a lot of harmless bravo sierra in the mix. But there is also a lot of stuff that will be valuable to our enemies. Opsec and Commsec exist for a reason and have nothing to do with the Kenyan-born rug-hugger-in-chief. I don't care if somebody in DOD DID screw the pooch and underclassify the documents, Manning didn't have to download them. Some bureaurocrat at DOD screwed up. Manning committed treason. Worse, he puts G.I. lives at risk.
Bad Cyborg, Pay attention to the posters at WRSA most of us post there and here. We all do not have to have down the line thinking on all subjects. A number of us feel that Wikileaks is doing some of the work for us. I dont hold Assange at any fault. I dont think Manning should be shot. He did break his oath and needs to be prosecuted for that however I have yet to see any evidence that the material leaked will result in the death of Service men. It has by and large simply been a pulling back of the curtain. I find the embarassment to serve our purposes of delegitamize the US government hollowing out the State even more than the debt crisis has. I am waiting for the release of material concerning BoA. I have a feeling that will be a tipping point. It could get our forces out in the streets and give us the elan to storm the Fed!
"For many non-tech users of the Intertubes (moi included), the slightest blip in access via the major search engines is enough to moot the inquiry."
CA, in the last decade you've learned about gun tech, 4GW battle tactics, true history of the US in the 1780's, long-term self-sufficiency preps, and many other things. Why not learn some computer tech too? Trying Linux is free in every sense, and many computer nerds are motivated like the Appleseed folks. I'm sure there's a Linux user group in your area. I urge everyone reading to make a New Year's resolution to attend three meetings of your local Linux users group.
Wikileaks is another false flag operation designed to give the G the public reason to control the internet which is the single biggest obstacle to the G's plans.
An informed populace can deftly sidestep the charging rhinocerous that is the FedGov.
The foolish (uninformed) cannot and suffer for it.
"Wikileaks is another false flag operation designed to give the G the public reason to control the internet which is the single biggest obstacle to the G's plans." -jjet
This linux is mine! Not rented as with MS products, and I don't have buy protection because it's already in there! Recommend Starting with Ubuntu but I have several different versions. All Free! No gliches in dual booting so you have a choice and can then leave the expensive MS world behind.
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It's just like when Lincoln threw any newpaper editors in jail that did not agree with his socialistic policies. (or anyone else for that matter, 13,000 total with NO writ of habeas corpus)
It's starting Comrad!
Time to get familiar with p2p dns http://digitizor.com/2010/12/01/the-pirate-bay-co-founder-starting-a-p2p-based-dns-to-take-on-icann/
and Tor http://www.google.com/m/url?client=ms-android-verizon&ei=ssL6TND9BaGutgfpnNSJAw&q=http://www.torproject.org/&source=android-home&ved=0CBIQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNG6M_KwRJ6xp5gYI-fy9LQAayHm1Q
'Diaspora' is a distributed P2P private network where separate computers connect to each other directly using secure protocols (PGP), without going through a central server of some sort.
Description
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/diaspora_project_building_the_anti-facebook.php
Diaspora Website (for non-IE browser)
https://joindiaspora.com/
***
For browsers, consider bypassing ICANN
http://www.unifiedroot.com/en/How-it-Works/Overview-How-it-Works
Promising Safari browser using TLDs
http://www.sundialbrowser.com/en/
other options?
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I can't tell if this was done at the Fed.gov behest, or by corporate fiat. Corporations which take action on purely ideological grounds are rare; the overwhelming majority are solely interested in money, profit, the bottom line, and little else.
It wouldn't surprise me to learn that the Fed.gov leaned on the ISP, but I don't know.
thanks annon.
we need to get some lists of reliable proxy servers going too. (Including US based ones)
I used to use wattproxy, but it won't let me in these days.
In the present case, I think a number of servers are evicting wikileaks out of disgust and shame, hence the remaining servers have reduced band width. I don't think it is official censorship
- YET!
Times are getting interesting though, so download all you think you might ever need, and some more too, just incase...
www.wikileaks.ch
It hasn't vanished, one merely needs to look in the right place.
Justin
No, Justin that route don't work either. Go and see all the dead links at the RTC Wiki-Leak has been pulled from the Internet at least in the U.S. But Maybe if you try a ink through the U.K or Gemany ya still might be able to get something.
Dennis
III
Texas
I second the suggestion to become familiar with TOR. It won't help once a site is truly taken down, but it will probably get you there in cases of regionally selective denial of access. It's easy to use. Just Google TOR.
"The Internet perceives censorship as damage and routes around it"
- I forget who said it.
Justin:
For many non-tech users of the Intertubes (moi included), the slightest blip in access via the major search engines is enough to moot the inquiry.
I'd be happy to publish hard info showing that the FedGov is without a hand in the Wikileaks access degradation, or for that matter, any hard info in what/who is behind those access issues.
Anyone who has it, pls link it via comments over at WRSA.
In the meantime, I'll stick with the target of the leaks having the means, motive, and opportunity to restrict (overtly, covertly, explicitly or implicitly) access or attempt thereto.
A philosophical question: if someone takes a shot at you and misses, does that miss thereby erase their intent towards you when the hammer fell?
Did anyone besides me read the comments at WRSA? Damn glad the only link I have to that s(h)ite is via Sipsey Street. Doesn't look like them folks think much of us'n here.
I don't give a shit.
I still believe that Bradley Manning is a traitor and ought to be shot. The asshole who runs Wikileaks ought to be next in lie behind him. Manning broke his oath and broke faith with his comrades in arms. Those two things alone are worthy of being fragged.
Yes there is a lot of harmless bravo sierra in the mix. But there is also a lot of stuff that will be valuable to our enemies. Opsec and Commsec exist for a reason and have nothing to do with the Kenyan-born rug-hugger-in-chief. I don't care if somebody in DOD DID screw the pooch and underclassify the documents, Manning didn't have to download them. Some bureaurocrat at DOD screwed up. Manning committed treason. Worse, he puts G.I. lives at risk.
Bad Cyborg X
But it simply can't happen here! That's crazytown!
Yeah I know but it and everything else is too.
CA-
I have no doubt concerning FedGov's hand in Wikileaks' troubles. I'm with you.
All I'm saying is that they failed to silence Wikileaks.
Justin
No "right-wing hate speech" Internet for US, but
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/free-internet-a-civil-right-for-every-nappy-headed-child-fcc-commissioner-clyburn/
Bad Cyborg,
Pay attention to the posters at WRSA most of us post there and here. We all do not have to have down the line thinking on all subjects. A number of us feel that Wikileaks is doing some of the work for us. I dont hold Assange at any fault. I dont think Manning should be shot. He did break his oath and needs to be prosecuted for that however I have yet to see any evidence that the material leaked will result in the death of Service men. It has by and large simply been a pulling back of the curtain.
I find the embarassment to serve our purposes of delegitamize the US government hollowing out the State even more than the debt crisis has. I am waiting for the release of material concerning BoA. I have a feeling that will be a tipping point. It could get our forces out in the streets and give us the elan to storm the Fed!
Grenadier1
"For many non-tech users of the Intertubes (moi included), the slightest blip in access via the major search engines is enough to moot the inquiry."
CA, in the last decade you've learned about gun tech, 4GW battle tactics, true history of the US in the 1780's, long-term self-sufficiency preps, and many other things. Why not learn some computer tech too? Trying Linux is free in every sense, and many computer nerds are motivated like the Appleseed folks. I'm sure there's a Linux user group in your area. I urge everyone reading to make a New Year's resolution to attend three meetings of your local Linux users group.
My $.02?
Wikileaks is another false flag operation designed to give the G the public reason to control the internet which is the single biggest obstacle to the G's plans.
An informed populace can deftly sidestep the charging rhinocerous that is the FedGov.
The foolish (uninformed) cannot and suffer for it.
"Wikileaks is another false flag operation designed to give the G the public reason to control the internet which is the single biggest obstacle to the G's plans." -jjet
BINGO!
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Here, Here!
This linux is mine! Not rented as with MS products, and I don't have buy protection because it's already in there! Recommend Starting with Ubuntu but I have several different versions. All Free! No gliches in dual booting so you have a choice and can then leave the expensive MS world behind.
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