Sipsey Street Irregulars: "Do we need unholy guns in holy places?" Unholy guns? What're those?

Thursday, June 25, 2015

"Do we need unholy guns in holy places?" Unholy guns? What're those?

State officials bear primary responsibility to protect those who are vulnerable. If they won’t or can’t do their job, it is terribly sad but not inappropriate for houses of worship to pay for the level of security required to keep their children and senior citizens from being murdered. This is preferable to the other solution — arming lightly trained or untrained civilians whose weapons probably risk doing far more harm than good.

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Anonymous said...: Maybe we should drop gift cards from the local gun shop into the church offering basket...

or ammo.

Just to help and provide a push in the right direction.; June 25, 2015 at 11:41 AM
ExGeeEye said...: "Jesus said, 'But now, take your wallet, and rations in your ruck, and if you don't have a rifle or at least a good pistol, sell your coat and buy one.'"

Luke 22:36, updated; June 25, 2015 at 11:48 AM
Anonymous said...: Just like the Pope (additional commentary withheld), I guess since arms makers are on his "evil list" being non christian and all then we who call ourselves christian and try to follow the footsteps of Christ are better served allowing our natural families and extended christian families suffer death at the hands of evil men and do nothing about it.

Ya, How will that work out for ya?; June 25, 2015 at 11:57 AM
Robert Fowler said...: State officials bear primary responsibility to protect those who are vulnerable.

The SCOTUS has ruled many times (Warren v DC and Gonzales v Castle Rock) that the police have no duty to protect anyone. Their duty is to the public at large. Their main job is to draw the chalk outline and write the reports.; June 25, 2015 at 12:46 PM
Bad Cyborg said...: Meh, hoplophobes gonna be what they are and ain't nothing gonna change that.

Hey, ExGeeEye, did you catch where that dingleberries-for-brains, Eric, wrote:
"Like most reasonable interpreters, he probably knows that Luke 22:36 has nothing to do with the question of whether Jesus’ followers should use lethal force to protect themselves and others and everything to do with Jesus playing the part of an outlaw to fulfill scripture."

Here's what I responded with:
"Funny, I have a Bachelor’s degree in biblical studies and I always figured He meant exactly what He said. I never heard about the Carpenter’s Son “playing the part of an outlaw to fulfill scripture.”

Also, in the original language the 6th Commandment was a prohibition against Murder, not homicide in general."

In response to an earlier dumbass remark by Eric I wrote the following:
"Ah, Eric? Wasn’t it Jesus who told His disciples “if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”? (Hint Luke 22:36) But then wasn’t it the Prince of Peace who declared to His disciples “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.”

BTW, a sword was very much the same thing in the 1st Century that a handgun is today.

Oh, and I, too, have stood armed guard over a Church. Seems a group was in a little chapel praying over the Host when armed men broke in and robbed them. Shortly thereafter the Parish contracted with a security firm for armed guards 24/7. I am not a Roman Catholic but I consider anyone who would rob a Church to be totally depraved and basically unsalvageable. I would HAPPILY shoot such a one."; June 25, 2015 at 4:56 PM
prambo said...: What Robert Fowler said.......but, willful ignorance of facts, even REALLY big ones, has never stopped a statist collectivist swine yet.; June 25, 2015 at 5:55 PM

"Progress made under the shadow of the policeman's club is false progress."

I believe that liberty is the only genuinely valuable thing that men have invented, at least in the field of government, in a thousand years. I believe that it is better to be free than to be not free, even when the former is dangerous and the latter safe. I believe that the finest qualities of man can flourish only in free air – that progress made under the shadow of the policeman's club is false progress, and of no permanent value. I believe that any man who takes the liberty of another into his keeping is bound to become a tyrant, and that any man who yields up his liberty, in however slight the measure, is bound to become a slave. -- H.L. Mencken

"The Fate of Unborn Millions. . ."

"The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves; whether they are to have any property they can call their own; whether their Houses, and Farms, are to be pillaged and destroyed, and they consigned to a State of Wretchedness from which no human efforts will probably deliver them. The fate of unborn Millions will now depend, under God, on the Courage and Conduct of this army-Our cruel and unrelenting Enemy leaves us no choice but a brave resistance, or the most abject submission; that is all we can expect-We have therefore to resolve to conquer or die." -- George Washington to his troops before the Battle of Long Island.

"We will not go gently . . ."

This is no small thing, to restore a republic after it has fallen into corruption. I have studied history for years and I cannot recall it ever happening. It may be that our task is impossible. Yet, if we do not try then how will we know it can't be done? And if we do not try, it most certainly won't be done. The Founders' Republic, and the larger war for western civilization, will be lost.

But I tell you this: We will not go gently into that bloody collectivist good night. Indeed, we will make with our defiance such a sound as ALL history from that day forward will be forced to note, even if they despise us in the writing of it.

And when we are gone, the scattered, free survivors hiding in the ruins of our once-great republic will sing of our deeds in forbidden songs, tending the flickering flame of individual liberty until it bursts forth again, as it must, generations later. We will live forever, like the Spartans at Thermopylae, in sacred memory.

-- Mike Vanderboegh, The Lessons of Mumbai:Death Cults, the "Socialism of Imbeciles" and Refusing to Submit, 1 December 2008

"A common language of resistance . . ."

"Colonial rebellions throughout the modern world have been acts of shared political imagination. Unless unhappy people develop the capacity to trust other unhappy people, protest remains a local affair easily silenced by traditional authority. Usually, however, a moment arrives when large numbers of men and women realize for the first time that they enjoy the support of strangers, ordinary people much like themselves who happen to live in distant places and whom under normal circumstances they would never meet. It is an intoxicating discovery. A common language of resistance suddenly opens to those who are most vulnerable to painful retribution the possibility of creating a new community. As the conviction of solidarity grows, parochial issues and aspirations merge imperceptibly with a compelling national agenda which only a short time before may have been the dream of only a few. For many Americans colonists this moment occurred late in the spring of 1774." -- T.H. Breen, The Marketplace of Revolution: How Consumer Politics Shaped American Independence, Oxford University Press, 2004, p.1.

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