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Friday, June 11, 2010
Cheapest 5.56 out there?
I have a buddy who is looking to pick up a couple thousand 5.56. Does anybody have their finger on the best price on brass cased stuff these days? (He doesn't like Russian steel-case.)
I have paid $450 per 1000 rounds for brass cased 62 grain green tip SS109 steel core penetrators recently at gun shows. Brass Cased 223 tracer (64 grain) cost me $110 for 200 rounds.
I don't care for the Wolf or Brown Bear laquered steel case ammo. I have had good luck with Silver Bear - I most recently paid $267 per 1000 rounds.
Mike - this is where I usually get mine (local for me). It's the cheapest I have been able to find for the Lake City, and this store is usually well stocked.
Cheap Russian carp is going for $200/k several places, berdan steel cases. CTD has BVAC reloads for $175/500 or new Lake City for $520/k AmmoMan has 2k LC for $880 including shipping. Scharch has DIY ammo can combos with 1k of 100% preped brass and 55gr FMJ bullets for $219. Just add primer and powder at about another nickel a round and you're good to go after a bit of cranking.
Guns shows take the cake for me, online try DSG arms and with a simple email from .mil email and creating account a decent discount is factored in. Currently they have various Fiocchi.
Try ammunitiontogo.com, based in Brenham, Tx. I have ordered thousands of rounds of various calibers from them and never had a problem. They have the best prices Ive seen on the internet.
Don't know about any surplus stuff, but a great site to check with is ammoengine.com ; they list calibers, weights, etc. in a chart which shows prices per round, lowest to highest, and has links to the dealers offering those rounds at those prices.
Ammoman.com has 5.56 XM 193 on clips, 900 rounds for $359 delivered.
If you're in the Birmingham area, Marks Outdoors had the same product for $300. They received a bunch a couple of weeks ago. I think they take phone orders as well so you may want to compare shipping and check their availability.
Wideners has Israeli and Partisan for pretty good price. I haven't seen Israeli in years. http://www.wideners.com/itemview.cfm?dir=18|830|845
http://www.ammoman.com/index.htm
http://georgia-arms.com/search.aspx?find=g223bcAN
I just want to say a couple of things about the Russian ammo that is very abundant and cheap. I think that it is acceptable for training and practice. I see it for .20 a round pretty steady and the other is ..35 to .50 a round. I like to shoot ... yes the Russian is a bit dirtier ... don't you clean your rifle? I for one want to know that my weapon is capable of shooting all types of ammo, cause the day may come when I can't be picky. If it won't work in your rifle .... get a rifle that can.
The only recommendation I have is that you should have spare parts that come in contact with the steel cases. I can only assume that these parts will wear faster than with brass. We should all have spare parts anyway .....Right?
Go to ammoseek.com. And enter the caliber, etc and the prices per round are there for easy sorting. Then click o. The supplier. I have had excellent results from ammoman.com on all ammo including the m193 and ss109 223 ammo there
Try https://www.ammoman.com/webstore_223.htm if you don't like the RUSSIAN 55 GRAIN FMJ at $239 per 1,000 rounds.
You can get the good stuff, 5.56mm 55 GRAIN FMJ - FULL METAL JACKET PACKAGED ON 10 ROUND STRIPPER CLIPS FEDERAL PART NUMBER # XM193AF 900 ROUND PACK for $359
These prices are delivered. I buy from them. In lager quantities the free shipping makes a big difference.
I believe the best website to use is http://gun-deals.com/ You can sort columns to get exactly what you want. Put in your zip code and get shipping prices and see the cost per round. It is a great site. Though not as great as this site.
Get the dies and powder,bullets,primers, and brass and make it. It's the gift that keeps on giving, and you'll learn something useful. And you'll be less in fief to the vagaries of the system. And for any of the regimes goons watching, they really won't know how many rounds you're making, will they?
Man, some of you guys just buy without shopping it would seem. This guy has it right:
Hypnagogue said...
palmettostatearmory.com has PMC M855 for $319/1000.
That's the best deal out there if you don't want Wolf 55 grain (which I've shot thousands of rounds of and never had any trouble). You can get the wolf for .20/round, at aimsurplus.com
I know the Wolf is cheap but...If you're like me and own a DPMS you should probably re-read your handbook as Wolf is banned by name and shooting ANY steel cased ammo voids your warranty.
54 comments:
ammoman.com
PMC has 55 gr .223 running about 350/1k at the local purveyor of death, destruction, mayhem and whatnot.
I like cruising through Ammoengine and lucky gunner for prices as well.
I have paid $450 per 1000 rounds for brass cased 62 grain green tip SS109 steel core penetrators recently at gun shows. Brass Cased 223 tracer (64 grain) cost me $110 for 200 rounds.
I don't care for the Wolf or Brown Bear laquered steel case ammo. I have had good luck with Silver Bear - I most recently paid $267 per 1000 rounds.
www.ammoengine.com
Mike - this is where I usually get mine (local for me). It's the cheapest I have been able to find for the Lake City, and this store is usually well stocked.
http://eastcoastgunsales.com/search.php?&CatID=257&CaliberID=8629
Try ammoengine to locate best prices.
http://www.ammoengine.com/find/ammo/.223_Remington_5.56x45mm
I found this website via the LRC:
http://ammoseek.com/
Hope that it helps
ddwyo
I usually start at ammoman.com. I can sometimes find better prices but not often. Ammunitiontogo.com is another good place to try.
Cheap Russian carp is going for $200/k several places, berdan steel cases.
CTD has BVAC reloads for $175/500 or new Lake City for $520/k
AmmoMan has 2k LC for $880 including shipping.
Scharch has DIY ammo can combos with 1k of 100% preped brass and 55gr FMJ bullets for $219. Just add primer and powder at about another nickel a round and you're good to go after a bit of cranking.
surplusammo.com
(I have NOT shot the stuff. Yet.)
www.AmmoSeek.com searches hundreds of sites. It's a great tool
Guns shows take the cake for me, online try DSG arms and with a simple email from .mil email and creating account a decent discount is factored in. Currently they have various Fiocchi.
1000 55g fmj @ 339 w/o discount
1000 m193 @ 365 w/ free shipping
900 federal xm193 on 10rd strippers @ 349
w/ discount 330, 355, 335 respectively
also, 45g and 62 gr available
www.dsgarms.com
service is flawless so far
Jackson, ms July gun show will have good deals as well if applicable, as well as other MS venues
370+/- for 1000 PMC, also m855 or similar available, lake city usually around as well
www.mississippigunshows.com
I'm not a vendor, Godspeed,
Michael in MS
III
Try ammunitiontogo.com, based in Brenham, Tx. I have ordered thousands of rounds of various calibers from them and never had a problem. They have the best prices Ive seen on the internet.
900 rounds on strippers $359
http://www.ammoman.com/index.htm
jeepster
I have purchased from these guys before.
http://www.the-armory.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/223_ammunition.html
https://surplusammo.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=37_38&products_id=119
Mike, here's two possible sources.
Grog
III
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/browse/rifle-ammo-223.aspx?c=96&s=907&stk=1
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ItemListing.aspx?catid=110
http://gun-deals.com/ammo.php?caliber=.223
Natchez Shooter Supply at Federal 55 gr XM193 at $362.12 per 1000. That's $7.24/20. Brass, of course.
http://gun-deals.com/ammo.php?caliber=.223
check on
http://www.ammoengine.com/find/ammo/.223_Remington_5.56x45mm
Don't know about any surplus stuff, but a great site to check with is ammoengine.com ; they list calibers, weights, etc. in a chart which shows prices per round, lowest to highest, and has links to the dealers offering those rounds at those prices.
Ammoman.com has 5.56 XM 193 on clips, 900 rounds for $359 delivered.
If you're in the Birmingham area, Marks Outdoors had the same product for $300. They received a bunch a couple of weeks ago. I think they take phone orders as well so you may want to compare shipping and check their availability.
Eric
III
Wideners has Israeli and Partisan for pretty good price. I haven't seen Israeli in years.
http://www.wideners.com/itemview.cfm?dir=18|830|845
http://www.ammoman.com/index.htm
http://georgia-arms.com/search.aspx?find=g223bcAN
I just want to say a couple of things about the Russian ammo that is very abundant and cheap. I think that it is acceptable for training and practice. I see it for .20 a round pretty steady and the other is ..35 to .50 a round. I like to shoot ... yes the Russian is a bit dirtier ... don't you clean your rifle? I for one want to know that my weapon is capable of shooting all types of ammo, cause the day may come when I can't be picky. If it won't work in your rifle .... get a rifle that can.
The only recommendation I have is that you should have spare parts that come in contact with the steel cases. I can only assume that these parts will wear faster than with brass. We should all have spare parts anyway .....Right?
Armscor makes pretty good, cheap ammo. I haven't used their 5.56, but all of their ammo that I have used has been solid.
Go to ammoseek.com. And enter the caliber, etc and the prices per round are there for easy sorting. Then click o. The supplier. I have had excellent results from ammoman.com on all ammo including the m193 and ss109 223 ammo there
The Allegory. III
Classic Arms .com!!!!
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=16&t=436159
http://www.ammoengine.com/find/ammo/.223_Remington_5.56x45mm
http://gun-deals.com
/ammo.php?caliber=.223
Try
https://www.ammoman.com/webstore_223.htm
if you don't like the RUSSIAN 55 GRAIN FMJ at $239 per 1,000 rounds.
You can get the good stuff,
5.56mm 55 GRAIN FMJ - FULL METAL JACKET
PACKAGED ON 10 ROUND STRIPPER CLIPS
FEDERAL PART NUMBER # XM193AF
900 ROUND PACK for $359
These prices are delivered. I buy from them. In lager quantities the free shipping makes a big difference.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=173183084
This vendor has several 1k lots for $325.00 per 1k plus shipping.
ammoengine.com. prices updated daily.
I believe the best website to use is http://gun-deals.com/ You can sort columns to get exactly what you want. Put in your zip code and get shipping prices and see the cost per round. It is a great site. Though not as great as this site.
Barry
in CO
M855 1000-Rounds for $389.95 at:
http://www.classicarms.us/index.htm
Get the dies and powder,bullets,primers, and brass and make it. It's the gift that keeps on giving, and you'll learn something useful. And you'll be less in fief to the vagaries of the system. And for any of the regimes goons watching, they really won't know how many rounds you're making, will they?
palmettostatearmory.com has PMC M855 for $319/1000.
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/index.php/cName/military-surplus-ammo-223-556mm
Go to gun-deals.com and they have an ammo link where you can find out who is selling the ammo you want and what the price is.
Doug
Newark, Ohio
http://www.ammoman.com/webstore_223.htm
Lake City Surplus on stripper clips, $359/900 shipped.
Newbius
pmc bronze at palmetto state armory. right now their 55 grain and 62 grain stuff is on sale.
Surplusammo.com has PMC 55 grain for pretty good price.
Unfortunately, for .223 cheap is a relative term these days.
-www.ammoman.com
-select 5.56/223....
-scroll down
AIM?
You pointed me there for a great deal on .308 and 8mm Mauser, thanks.
Mike,
Don't know if they're the cheapest but I've bought from both of these in the past with no problems. The prices at Ammoman include shipping.
http://www.ammoman.com/index.htm
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/index.php/cName/223-556-fmj-ammo
Regards,
Doug III
http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=9019
http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=10000017
http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=9017
Forget cheap, go with duty, just because the .mil is restrained by rules doesn't mean we are . . . get TAP or Match from Hornady.
Mike;
I handload 68 grain HPBTs for about the same price as your run of the mill 55 grainers (assuming you re-use the brass at least once).
A bit onerus if one is talking thousands of rounds, but is A LOT cheaper than Hornady TAP or Black Hills equivalent.
I buy American Eagle and use that brass to load the 68 gr HPBTs. Ammo selection is, well, limited in Alaska.
No doubt you have found what you need by now. That's just my $.02.
Justin
III
Train like there's no tomorrow. There might not be.
Tempus Fugit.
Mike-
Oops. I shoot and reuse the brass from PMC, not American Eagle.
Justin
Man, some of you guys just buy without shopping it would seem. This guy has it right:
Hypnagogue said...
palmettostatearmory.com has PMC M855 for $319/1000.
That's the best deal out there if you don't want Wolf 55 grain (which I've shot thousands of rounds of and never had any trouble). You can get the wolf for .20/round, at aimsurplus.com
classic arms has some m855 62 grain for 399
A lot of 5.56 is back to being cheap...for now:
http://gardenserf.wordpress.com/2010/06/11/shooting-a-hole-in-the-ammunition-glut/
It could change a lot in the future.
I'll second, or third, http://surplusammo.com.
Always decent prices, great stock, great service, great people. They do not advertise online unless they stock it (as a general rule).
If you are in western Washington, you must stop in.
I know the Wolf is cheap but...If you're like me and own a DPMS you should probably re-read your handbook as Wolf is banned by name and shooting ANY steel cased ammo voids your warranty.
.45c each., on the shelf.
Natchez shooters Supply has green tip for $424/1K and decent prices on new LC brass.
VETTOM
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