If guns can "go off" for absolutely no reason, all by themselves, then I must have the greatest, safest guns in the world because I've never, ever had one discharge all by it's lonesome self. Somebody's bullshittin'! Next he'll be telling me how a bullet can stop mid-flight and change direction..oops,my bad, they already done that - JFK's "magic bullet"..
I wasn't even aware that a striker fired weapon COULD malfunction that way. My understanding of the striker firing mechanism is that it is functionally equivalent to a double action mechanism - i.e. you effectively "cock" the firing mechanism when you squeeze the trigger. All the slide does is remove the spent round and load a fresh one. All the energy applied to the firing pin comes from the shooter's finger unlike a single action mechanism where the energy to fire the weapon comes from the slide. In a single action mechanism something/someone has to cock the hammer. All the trigger does is release that energy already stored in the hammer spring. Likewise a striker fired mechanism requires the shooter to supply the energy to fire every round.
I have an Uzi Eagle (Jericho .40 marked directly in the U.S by IMI) which is single/double action. If the hammer is down, a lot more force is required to fire because you have to force the hammer back so it can fire. Once the hammer is cocked my Uzi Eagle requires a very light touch to release the hammer. It seems to me that firing my Glock is much like firing my Uzi Eagle from a hammer down condition. Except that the Glock takes the same amount of effort for every round where the Eagle only takes that much effort if the hammer is down. Am I correct or am I totally off in the weeds?
You are correct, Bad Cyborg, although your average Glock 'should' have a slightly lighter trigger pull than the first round of your average SA/DA pistol. But that will depend on what pistol and what you've done to it.
Police departments are known to keep a 'heavy' trigger on their Glocks in order to reduce the incidence of accidental shootings. But a long, heavy trigger pull makes for inaccurate shooting too.
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If guns can "go off" for absolutely no reason, all by themselves, then I must have the greatest, safest guns in the world because I've never, ever had one discharge all by it's lonesome self. Somebody's bullshittin'! Next he'll be telling me how a bullet can stop mid-flight and change direction..oops,my bad, they already done that - JFK's "magic bullet"..
Let's try inadequate training, laziness and stupidity. I saw it often when I was a Peace Officer.
I wasn't even aware that a striker fired weapon COULD malfunction that way. My understanding of the striker firing mechanism is that it is functionally equivalent to a double action mechanism - i.e. you effectively "cock" the firing mechanism when you squeeze the trigger. All the slide does is remove the spent round and load a fresh one. All the energy applied to the firing pin comes from the shooter's finger unlike a single action mechanism where the energy to fire the weapon comes from the slide. In a single action mechanism something/someone has to cock the hammer. All the trigger does is release that energy already stored in the hammer spring. Likewise a striker fired mechanism requires the shooter to supply the energy to fire every round.
I have an Uzi Eagle (Jericho .40 marked directly in the U.S by IMI) which is single/double action. If the hammer is down, a lot more force is required to fire because you have to force the hammer back so it can fire. Once the hammer is cocked my Uzi Eagle requires a very light touch to release the hammer. It seems to me that firing my Glock is much like firing my Uzi Eagle from a hammer down condition. Except that the Glock takes the same amount of effort for every round where the Eagle only takes that much effort if the hammer is down. Am I correct or am I totally off in the weeds?
You are correct, Bad Cyborg, although your average Glock 'should' have a slightly lighter trigger pull than the first round of your average SA/DA pistol. But that will depend on what pistol and what you've done to it.
Police departments are known to keep a 'heavy' trigger on their Glocks in order to reduce the incidence of accidental shootings. But a long, heavy trigger pull makes for inaccurate shooting too.
But google up 'Glock leg syndrome' for comedy.
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