Toilet Paper Media hyperventilates at the revelation that Stewart Rhodes has offered the opinion that John McCain should be tried and hanged for treason to the Constitution.
The collectivist blog Talking Points Memo is in an indignant spasm, as only collectivists can work themselves up to. "Oath Keepers Founder: Traitor McCain Should Be 'Hung By The Neck Until Dead'."
Of course Stewart predicated his statement with this: “He should be tried for treason before a jury of his peers — which he would deny you."
If you look at McCain's support for the worst parts of the misnamed PATRIOT Act, as well as his backing of the NDAA, it is not unreasonable that a guy who is all for massive spying on his fellow citizens (and hence the violation of their Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights under the same Constitution that he swore an oath to preserve, protect and defend) as well as executing American citizens without trial could be considered treasonous. The Founders, I suspect, would certainly think so. And McCain's votes for these laws place him beyond mere free speech advocacy and into direct responsibility for destruction of the rule of law as understood by the Founders. I mean, it's not as if Stewart's channeling the Red Queen and uttering some wild-eyed advocacy of McCain's death without trial in a vacuum of evidence.
"Now for the evidence," said the King, "and then the sentence."
"No!" said the Queen, "first the sentence, and then the evidence!"
"Nonsense!" cried Alice, so loudly that everybody jumped, "the idea of having the sentence first!"
However history judges John McCain, it will likely depend upon how he enabled tyranny that he didn't mind seeing others enforce upon innocent American citizens. Stewart believes passionately that McCain has violated his oath. Under the circumstances and with all our potential futures hostage to those actions, it is understandable that he would view those concrete acts as treason. As it happens, I agree with him on that. And the Founders, you may recall, laid out a specific punishment for treason. And that was? Why, to be hung by the neck until death.
Of course with the laws being what they are, Stewart may have put himself in legal jeopardy for, as they see it, threatening a perfumed senatorial prince of the Mandarin class. In certain circles it was at the least certainly impolitic to say. I probably would have phrased it more delicately and indirectly. Does that make me smarter, or just not as forthright and honest as Stewart Rhodes? History, too, will judge that.
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Jade Helm and the Texas Power Grid
This isn't uncle intel but friend intel. This information comes from a friend I grew up with all the way from elementary school to high school and beyond. We're both in our 30s now, and I would trust him with my life. We've both been following the Jade Helm news very closely.
My friend works for ERCOT, and if you don't know what that is it's the Electric Reliability Council of Texas and they manage the Texas electric power grid. For those that don't know, Texas is the only state in the U.S. with it's OWN power grid ( [link to www.slate.com]
My buddy told me that the military sent representatives to ERCOT (he witnessed them there himself), and when he asked his boss what was going on he was told that the military was trying to get permission to run drills at various electric utilities. That's when it hit me that Jade Helm is not about preparing for a foreign country, they're preparing to take on Texas, and to take out Texas it's vital to take out the independent Texas electric grid.
Have you wondered why there are wooden shoes in the Jade Helm logo? It's because they represent sabotage. The word sabotage comes from the Netherlands in the 15th century, when workers would throw their sabots (wooden shoes) into the wooden gears of the textile looms to break the cogs.
Jade Helm is about sabotaging vital infrastructure in Texas, especially the INDEPENDENT TEXAS POWER GRID.
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2859622/pg1
This McCain thing is easy. The fact that the "toilet paper media" comes running to his rescue should tell you something right off the bat. The other thing is that he rails against enhanced interrogation while being OK with droning Americans sitting at an outdoor diner somewhere out west.
McCain left some of his marbles in the Hanoi Hilton and is unqualified for public 'rule making' over the rest of us. I've been pleading for my liberals sister in law out in Phoenix to please elect a democrat to take his senate seat. At least a democrat would be labeled correctly for how he acts and votes in the senate.
McLame has been a traitor to our country since his sojourn at the Hanoi Hilton.
Bob
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First let's make sure McCain doesn't get re-elected. There are a couple of decent Republican Congressmen whom could challenge him next year. We can only hope one will step up to the plate. Last election McCain spent over $20 mil. to buy his Senate seat. Defense contractors have deep pockets to fund their favorite senator.
I would be satisfied if he would retire and go away.
John "Victor Charles" McCain...
Is so full of shit, he'll smile , act all grampy, act cordial and shoot you in the back.
Whores like him continue on there leeching off the American Public
Nuff said...about this Traitor!!
The word is "hanged" by the neck. Hung means something entirely different and refers to a man's junk.
Anonymous May 15, 2015 at 5:31 AM.
And did anybody notice that all those turn-coat republicans are from blue or purple states....John McCain's type.
McCain's biggest crime is the part he played in getting Obama elected!
This used to be the law for Oathbreakers, of which McCain is one.
Title 18 U.S. Code section 2381: “When in the presence of two witnesses to the same overt act or in an open court of law if you fail to timely move to protect and defend the constitution of the United States and honor your oath of office you are subject to the charge of capital felony treason, and upon conviction you will be taken by the posse to the nearest busy intersection and at high noon hung by the neck until dead… The body to remain in state till dusk as an example to anyone who takes his oath of office lightly.
They changed it to this; Title 18 U.S. Code section 2381: Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
It is easy to understand why.
there is not enough, nor strong enough perfume to cover his stench.
McCain is guilty of this and much more. I don't know that it will ever come out, but there's a Pulitzer Prize waiting for the journalist ballsy enough to dig it up. There are people out there who know the real dirt on that guy, but they are all folks who don't want their lives ruined.
Yes, well if McCain is to be hanged, there is a very long list of other politicians to go with him. The question then becomes; is there a single one who isn't guilty?
With so may traitors, retired and in office, enforcement becomes problematic. We're about 100 years late in exploring the subject. -- Lyle
Re: Anonoymous 5/15 @ 6:22 AM
"Jade Helm and the Texas Power Grid
This isn't uncle intel but friend intel.
...
Jade Helm is about sabotaging vital infrastructure in Texas, especially the INDEPENDENT TEXAS POWER GRID."
If you're in Texas and concerned about this you ought to look into getting rid of "smart" meters - especially the electricity meters.
There are some possibly rather hyperbolic claims out there, but I was in the movement to stop them where I live for a while, and spent a lot of time reading. My conclusion is that in the security/privacy aspect there is truth or minor issues of "big data" that are maybe intractable today in a commercial budget, but either tomorrow or an unlimited military budget could readily crack them.
Security wise, they seem to be either inadequate or (perhaps stretching things) barely adequate at best against common criminals.
Privacy wise, the 15 minute data collection they typically claim is already sufficient to identify use of large appliances (stove, dishwasher, hot water heater (proxy for hot water use), washer, dryer, A/C). A small change of setting to 1 minute collection and they can watch your usage of all kinds of small appliances. The report submitted to the Colorado Public Utilities Commission mentions electric kettles, and several other devices (been a while since I read it). Point being that 1 minute data can provide a rather intrusive view of your life and habits - and which devices are in use can indicate which family members are at home and what they are doing.
Hyperbole? No. I've read the report in full. It is an industry source telling the Colorado PUC what they could/wanted to do with the data that could be gleaned from "smart" meters. If you want to look it up, it is "Smart Metering & Privacy: Existing Law and Competing Policies" prepared by Elias Leake Quinn.
Anon at 11:27 "McCain's biggest crime is the part he played in getting Obama elected!"
Actually, no. His BIGGEST crime was starting the USS Forrestal fire, killing 134 and injuring another 161.
He has ALWAYS been a POS. He's an asshole, a murderer and narcissist.
I agree whole-heartedly. McStain is exactly that....a stain upon this nation.
How my fellow Arizonans continue to vote him into office is mind boggling.
Weren't there a lot of liberals calling for Bush to be lynched and worse? They are so deluded they have given up all pretense.
"About a hundred years late..." Kinda sums it all up. These commie,pinko,social justice shitbags,have been at this for a long,long time. The foundation has been built long ago. We are now witnessing the ordained ones, take their rightful place inside the rotting carcass they have created. That picture that was run of the hyena inside the elephant carcass is appropriate.Any lamenting about the passing of a constitutional republic is..."A hundred years too late."
Capitalist Eric- You're absolutely right about 'Songbird'
McCain and the fire on the Forrestal. It was started by ordinance from McCain's plane. You're also absolutely correct on the figures of those killed and injured. I had a friend that was on the Forrestal when the fire happened.
McCain was immediately hustled below decks out of harm's way, but when the media appeared, so did McCain, and he and other officers took credit for the actions of enlisted personnel that actually tossed the ordinance over the side.
When McCain was a POW, he was never tortured and even had a full time 'nurse' that attended to his 'every' need.
Collaborator McCain should have been tried for treason and giving the enemy information on the entire fleet. Then he should have been hung on a gallows in public.
He and the other P.O.S. John Kerry also instigated an IRS investigation into a POW/MIA group of families by claiming they used fraudulent means to raise funds. The IRS found there was 'NO FRAUD' at all.
McCain isn't all that bright either. He graduated 399 out of a class of 400 at the Naval Academy, and that was probably only because of family influence.
He's a real piece of shit !!
Some fellow has documented a portion of McCain's crimes here http://www.thedailysheeple.com/the-un-american-hero-the-crimes-of-john-mccain_022015 Plan on investing a significant amount of time just reading through this very long list.
Wow! All great comments that I've read here..Cal @ 12:57 pm - exactly right on the Title 18 thing. I noticed that also, as Carl Miller gives a pretty good explanation of the way it used to read and then i looked at it and it was totally different. The bastards know they are almost all guilty of treason; every one of them to a man/woman! And the way the Founders wrote what the penalty for treason to the Constitution is would have them all swinging from trees/lamp posts/ telephone poles - even a sturdy washline...
CAL, You are right.
It's easy to understand why.
Dave @ 11:58 thanks for the article on McCain. The last couple of years I've searched this topic but found info here and there. This is a nice compilation all in one place.
C'mon guys, let's get it right.
As defenders of the Constitution we should know and understand what it says.
Article III, Section 3 defines treason against the United States as "only in levying war against them, or in adhering in their enemies, giving them aid and comfort".
As utterly despicable as McCain is, his actions are not treason.
Also, hanging is not specified as punishment for treason, but that "The Congress shall have the power to declare the punishment of treason".
While hanging is traditionally the traitor's fate and it may be declared by statute, it isn't specified in the Constitution.
If we're going to have any hope of saving the Constitution it's defenders have to know what's in it. We need to stop saying crap that just isn't so.
I'm losing track of all the traitors and '100 heads'/'4G Warfare' threats that have been stated or implied here.
Can you publish a list?
Would be nice to have when you give the signal.
Hell, I might just go back and compile this, from your past posts.
Aiding foreign bankers through fiat currency AND arming terrorists in order to create foreign wars: I'd call that "giving them aid and comfort"..and those are two I thought of in just 3 seconds..
McCain will continue to be elected as long as Karl Rove has his NeoCon PAC doing its job. Even "IF" there were a real grassroots army to do all of the doorbelling required to beat McCain, the 2012 Rep Primary manipulation that was implemented would/will rear its ugly reliable head once again. That, you can bank on.
Mr. Rhodes is right. The constitution very clearly defines TREASON, and its consequences. And it's 'not pretty'. It is not supposed to be.
Transgressions against one's own people is a very serious offense…one of the most egregious and evil acts one person can do to another.
Of course Mr. Rhodes' words raised the eyebrows of the useful idiots and the manipulators.
In his book '1984' George Orwell wrote 'During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.'
And Orwell hit the nail right on the head.
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