Comments on Pro Libertate: Beware the War Propheteers

What would I say? First of all, that it's somethin...

2008-02-28T00:11:00.000-07:00

What would I say? First of all, that it's something of a pity I can't "revise and extend" my remarks, in the fashion of Congressmen and Senators sanitizing their comments in the Congressional Record.

Actually, Hagee's endorsement of McCain represents a less dramatic change of allegiance for him than the scenario I discussed at the end of the essay -- namely, that Romney would be elected and Hagee would set aside doctrinal objections to Mormonism if Romney proved to be suitably bellicose.

Of McCain's bellicosity we have no doubt. On that basis, I suspect, he's entirely acceptable to Hagee.

So, Mr. Grigg: What do you have to say about your...

2008-02-27T23:24:00.000-07:00

So, Mr. Grigg: What do you have to say about your "Beware the War Propheteers" blog now that Hagee has endorsed McCain?

If we want to understand Brother Hagee and his aco...

2007-12-19T22:57:00.000-07:00

If we want to understand Brother Hagee and his acolytes, we have only to remember the scripture that warns us that "Satan walks up and down about the world, seeking whom he may devour."

Grossly fat and delicately perfumed Brother Hagee is being carefully prepared - basted with pride, seasoned with malice, and stuffed with greed - as a tempting morsel for the dinner table of Brother Lucifer.

Ah, but such is the cunning of Hagee's lord and master that Brother Hagee is bringing tens of thousands of other souls with him to become side orders at Brother Lucifer's feast.

It just goes to prove for the rest of us that science fiction can indeed become science fact. Hagee is a living example of the old science fiction movie, "Invasion of the Body Snatchers," where alien beings take over more and more humans and turn them into mindless, robotic Pod People. Except, in Hagee's case, this movie should be called "Invasion of the Turds."

Imagine the overweening arrogance of these blind preachers leading their blind devotees. Hagee says: “When we stand in the streets of Jerusalem and see the Messiah walking toward us, one of us will have a major theological adjustment to make!”

Whatever orgasm of delusional pride makes him think HE, of all people, will be so honored?? And how does he propose to recognize the Messiah from amongst all those Jews in Jerusalem? By the Messiah's American Flag lapel pin and sticker on His SUV which says "Support our Troops"? Or by the Messiah's M-16 assault rifle slung over His shoulder?

And notice, too, all Hagee's friends - Mitty Romney, Sister Coulter, Brother Huckabee, Karly Rove, Rushie Limbaugh, Billy O'Reilly - don't they all look just so freshly washed and white and blond and delicious? Like little stuffed mushrooms to garnish Satan's Caesar salad? I can just imagine, with infinite pleasure, the sound of Lucifer crunching down on their little delicate bones.

Sweet dreams to all.
Chris Taylor,
White Man in Virginia.

My inaugural address at the Great White Throne Jud...

2007-12-13T14:18:00.000-07:00

My inaugural address at the Great White Throne Judgment of the Dead, after I have raptured out billions! The Secret Rapture soon, by my hand!
Read My Inaugural Address
At = http://www.angelfire.com/crazy/spaceman

It is true that Jesus, the King of Kings and Lord ...

2007-12-13T01:39:00.000-07:00

It is true that Jesus, the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, will rule over all nations when He returns, but He does so when He returns as the conquering Jewish Messiah, the Son of David, to first rescue Israel from the "worthless shepherd/false messiah" mentioned in Zechariah 11:15-17 as He lands upon the Mount of Olives. When Jesus came the first time, He was not only King of the Jews; He was also King of the world (He made the world; He owns it.), but the mission of His first coming was as a Suffering Messiah, a universal Savior for all humanity, not as the Conquering Messiah which would come later.
Again, there has never been any concept in the Hebrew Tanakh and the Jewish authored New Testament (Luke being the lone exception, a gentile physician, who wrote his Gospel and the Acts of the Apostles) of the Anointed One of Israel or Messiah Who is also known as the Anointed One of the Gentiles, even though He will rule over both Israel and the nations when He returns. This is the ultimate meaning behind the Torah's passage of Genesis 12:3 where Abraham and his Jewish descendants will become a blessing to all the families of the earth through their Messiah. Through this one Jewish Descendant, Israel's God-Man Messiah Y'Shua (Micah 5:2), redemption has come to all men who accept it through His substitutionary death and resurrection. As the ultimate Passover Lamb, Jesus brought salvation to all who desire it, to the Jew first and then to the Greek/gentile (Romans 1:16). Moreover, His atoning sacrificial death was also foreshadowed through the Temple's sacrificial system and Abraham's sacrificial offer to God of his son Issac. Just because the gentiles have no messiah doesn't mean they won't reap the political benefits of the Jewish Messiah, Y'shua of Nazareth, Who will bring justice, liberty and peace to the entire world (Isaiah 9:6-7) when He rescues Israel from the one-world, global/ten-region confederation of nations toward the end of this age.
(Zechariah 12:2-3,12:10,14:1-4, 14:9)
-R. Wiesinger

As for Y'shua being Messiah of only the Jews, mess...

2007-12-12T11:45:00.000-07:00

As for Y'shua being Messiah of only the Jews, messiah is just the Hebrew word for 'anointed one.' There are 3 categories of anointed ones in scripture - prophets, priests and kings. He is all 3. He came as King of the Jews, He will return as King of the whole world. And according to the Epistle to the Hebrews, He is our High Priest. See also Psalm 2 where the Father says (paraphrased) 'It is too small a thing for you to have only Israel. Ask of me and I will give you the nations (goyim in Hebrew) as an inheritance.

Perhaps this can help turn your christian friends ...

2007-12-11T15:46:00.000-07:00

Perhaps this can help turn your christian friends and family toward supporting Ron Paul and away from idolatry of state force.

"But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed." - Holy Bible (kjv), James 1:25

Great analysis as always. It's possible that what...

2007-12-11T09:35:00.000-07:00

Great analysis as always. It's possible that what Hagee may have meant is that Jesus did not fulfill the full "conquerer" messianic role of the Priest-King that would come to establish an earthly kingdom in his first coming.

Still its a little convienient that this is being peddled to Christians in a time which I believe is precursory to the foising of a false Messianic figure on the religions of the world in the hopes of uniting them under the New World Order.

Concerning what fedup wrote, regarding Gary Bauer....

2007-12-11T02:20:00.000-07:00

Concerning what fedup wrote, regarding Gary Bauer. Bauer signed on to the NeoCon agenda several years ago, even adding his name to the PNAC documents that laid the foundation for the current administration's nation wrecking attempts at world domination. His response, or lack thereof, to your emails, are precisely what one would have expected. I have always suspected that Bauer was compromised by some dirty tricks team working for the Insiders. If you recall, he was running for the Republican presidential nomination a few years back, and was doing quite well in the polls, when lo and behold, one of his female campaign workers accused him of making advances toward her. End of Bauer, end of his campaign. Next thing ya know, he's publically endorsing PNAC documents! Coincidence? I think not.

To: dauvitbalfourThe Supreme Court had no jurisdic...

2007-12-10T18:13:00.000-07:00

To: dauvitbalfour
The Supreme Court had no jurisdiction
in the Roe case and Ron Paul understands this. Ron Paul is not opposed to a Pro-Life amendment to the Constitution, but believes we can
do something NOW to stop abortion without waiting years and years
for a Constitutional Amendment

I sent this article to Gary Bauer, the guy who run...

2007-12-10T15:30:00.000-07:00

I sent this article to Gary Bauer, the guy who runs the Christian website www.ourAmericanValues.org -

His reply was one wotd: "Manure."

Of course I expected this reply because Bauer also wrote to me once that "he wants to kill them (Muslims) before they kill us." I asked him which Bible verse backs that up and he never replied.

Thanks for the great article that speaks the truth!

Of course, Jesus claimed to be the Messiah. He sta...

2007-12-08T18:11:00.000-07:00

Of course, Jesus claimed to be the Messiah. He stated as such to the Samaritan woman at the well as recorded in John's Gospel. The Sanhedrin's high priest asked Jesus to His face if He was the Messiah, and Jesus said "I AM" followed by the proclamation of His deity to which the high priest responded by tearing his garment as a gesture of Jesus' so-called blasphemy. Moreover, Jesus further identified Himself with the Messianic term 'The Son of Man' extensively throughout the Gospels which is used in Daniel chapter 7 in describing the Messiah's second coming. All mankind, the Gentiles and the Jewish people, have One Savior, One High Priest, the greatest Prophet (As foretold by Moses in Deuteronomy 18:15-19) and the unique Incarnate God-Man, the Lord Jesus, but He is exclusively Israel's Messiah. The Gentiles do not have a Messiah, but when Y'shua/Jesus returns to rescue Israel from the false messiah and his satanic, ten-regional bloc world government toward the end of "Jacob's Trouble", He will restore all things and establish His global Kingdom from Jerusalem. There is but one divine Messiah with two roles fulfilling two separate missions. The first mission as 'Masciach ben Joseph' brought spiritual salvation to humanity; the second, 'Masciach ben David' will bring political salvation to the world. Jacob's sons did not recognize 'Joseph' until the second time, and when that time comes, their recognition will trigger the Messiah's return.
R. Wiesinger

WNG just keeps rolling along and he was the main r...

2007-12-07T16:32:00.000-07:00

WNG just keeps rolling along and he was the main reason I read NEW AMERICAN, now he is better than ever.

As far as Hagee and the Pat Robertson's these people who make merchandise out of Christians, they are really dangerous and that is a fact. AIPAC over the last decades has molded Congress into what they want.
Ron Paul bravely voted against that DISGUSTING Lebanon Resolution in summer of 2006 and he has earned their ETERNAL WRATH for doing so.

While most Americans have to endure our season of Christ called HOLIDAYS rather than CHRISTMAS as it had been they don't know just how much of their tax dollars have gone to Israel then back to AIPAC to suborn the Congress.

Type "Hagee says Jesus wasn't the Messiah" in eith...

2007-12-07T16:24:00.000-07:00

Type "Hagee says Jesus wasn't the Messiah" in either youtube or Google. This guy is anti-christ IMO.

Thanks, Will, for this excellent piece. How blind ...

2007-12-07T11:12:00.000-07:00

Thanks, Will, for this excellent piece. How blind so many of this heretics followers are who believe this guy is a follower of the lowly Nazarene and Prince of Peace. Who knows but what he is a plant of the Insiders and knows who to "pay off."
It appears Hagee doesn't have Matt. 7:15-29 in his Bible, or he has not read it in a LONG time!

Mr.Grigg,I'm new to your blog but not newto Hagee....

2007-12-07T09:52:00.000-07:00

Mr.Grigg,
I'm new to your blog but not new
to Hagee. Being myself from
SanAntonio Texas I was for years
very impressed with the content
of Hagee's sermons which for the
most part were severly critical
of the government.
However, on one occasion years ago
he paraded a clutch of Israeli
bureaucrats (Netanyahoo, Perez,
etc.)
into his "Church," and on televison
on a Sunday morning allowed them
to declare the Muslim world the
emodiment of evil and the enemy
of all mankind. This display
literally sickened me and I have
never listened to him since.

Thank you for this article. I
was especially intrigued by the
similarities you draw between
Hagee's brand of cultism with
Romney's. Very very interesting.

(incidentally I found your blog
through a link on lewrockwell.com)

Will:For the record, Strang also annointed Huckabe...

2007-12-07T03:56:00.000-07:00

Will:

For the record, Strang also annointed Huckabee in his much more widely circulated CHARISMA magazine.

Will:A thousand thank-you's for this entry. I have...

2007-12-07T03:45:00.000-07:00

Will:

A thousand thank-you's for this entry. I have been wanting to write something along these lines myself, but not finding the time, and lacking your 10th dan level ability with words, I am glad you nailed it with this superb piece. Strang (an appropriate name if there ever was one)the Big-boy look alike,Hagee, and their mindless followers are following the path to hell and don't even know it. The CFR is already puffing Howd-Doody Huckabee. Thanks again for this blog piece.
Rev Charles Roberts

Hagee is just another pan-handling gas bag. Over ...

2007-12-07T00:17:00.000-07:00

Hagee is just another pan-handling gas bag. Over the years the rhetoric and the decibels have steadily risen from his foam flecked lips.

Will,Are you going to blog on the Romney Morman sp...

2007-12-06T16:36:00.000-07:00

Will,

Are you going to blog on the Romney Morman speech?

John Hagee scares the life right out of me!

2007-12-06T16:03:00.000-07:00

John Hagee scares the life right out of me!

My initial reaction to any front-running Republica...

2007-12-06T13:15:00.000-07:00

My initial reaction to any front-running Republican candidate is skepticism; however, in the case of Huckabee, the connection with the war-cult (particularly Hagee) seems tenuous at best, at least as presented in this post. I don't say there isn't a connection, only that I am not yet convinced.

Something that has been bothering me about Paul is his stance on abortion. Yes, it would be great to overturn Roe, and that is more than we are likely to ever get, but does that make it sufficient? If we are shooting for the impossible, why not a national ban on abortion? Abortion violates the fifth amendment, and as such would seem to fall under the jurisdiction of the national government. In addition, the constitution guarantees to each state a republican form of government, which can hardly be said of a state where abortion is legal.

The way I tend to see it is this way: rape is currently not a national crime, but it is illegal in all fifty states. Suppose one state were to legalize it? How can it be that a national government created to guarantee our rights ought to be powerless to overturn such a law? This is why I am hesitant to throw myself entirely behind Ron Paul, and why I am curious about Huckabee (about whom I admittedly know inexcusably little).

Mike and Mitt are all for business, which is where...

2007-12-06T11:32:00.000-07:00

Mike and Mitt are all for business, which is where they get their contributions from. In order to have a chance at winning presidency they have to please their people. That means agreeing to war.

Why? Cause war makes a load of money.

If you want someone who's supported by the people, and wants the best for the people, then vote Ron Paul.

-Diana

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Forex investing

I have long been saddened by the Christian Right e...

2007-12-06T10:09:00.000-07:00

I have long been saddened by the Christian Right embracing statism to the point of idolatry.

Ron Paul represents the most biblically sound platform out there — that the state exists for the restraint of evil alone (as per Romans 13). He alone recognizes that it is not the role of the state to administer God's grace to this world — that role belongs to the church.

Ron Paul is the most biblical candidate running and he will, sadly, not only be ignored by the Christians he would well represent, he will be vilified.

What an excellent post! I've copied it and sent i...

2007-12-06T09:13:00.000-07:00

What an excellent post! I've copied it and sent it to all of my family members who refuse to support Ron Paul because he's "just too radical" and claim they will be voting Huckabee instead. Keep up the amazing work on Pro Libertate!!