Comments on Pro Libertate: This Is A Man: The Defiance of Omar Deghayes

"...This protection of the individual "p...

2010-02-07T22:49:40.371-07:00

"...This protection of the individual "person" applies everywhere the government in Washington claims jurisdiction. It doesn't apply only to "citizens of the United States.""

That's what I thought too...

I guess, so far, we're wrong though huh?

The Constitution really is just a scrap of paper.

America, home of the usurped.

Wow, no--the operative word here is 'citizen.&...

2010-02-06T10:42:51.136-07:00

Wow, no--the operative word here is 'citizen.' British, I believe? Hmm, if he were a US citizen, your remarks might have merit.

The operative words here are "innocent person" -- with emphasis on the latter.

The same constitutional provision that refers to "citizens of the United States" (Amendment XIV) specifies, in relevant part, "...nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

This protection of the individual "person" applies everywhere the government in Washington claims jurisdiction. It doesn't apply only to "citizens of the United States." And I don't think any reasonable person could consider the deliberate, vicious blinding of a detainee (one who hadn't even been charged with an offense) to be anything other than a violation of numerous laws (among them the Eighth Amendment's ban on "cruel and unusual punishment").

Wow, no--the operative word here is 'citizen.&...

2010-02-06T09:56:15.036-07:00

Wow, no--the operative word here is 'citizen.' British, I believe? Hmm, if he were a US citizen, your remarks might have merit.
Be still and be enlightened.

"...then we might restore the American dream....

2010-02-05T07:52:56.733-07:00

"...then we might restore the American dream." - SST

That reminds me of George Carlin when he said that to accept the American Dream you had to be asleep to believe it. LOL!

You're right. Sad to say but it's true that unless THEY are told "NO", even up to the point of delivering them off this mortal coil, they won't ever stop. That's not something I look forward to but expect will happen.

In bad faith Thus always with tyrants. In Male Fi...

2010-02-04T19:09:30.222-07:00

In bad faith
Thus always with tyrants.

In Male Fide
Sic Semper Tyrannis

in bad faith?

2010-02-04T15:46:22.025-07:00

in bad faith?

As Phillip Zimbardo's Stanford Prison Experime...

2010-02-03T22:19:40.803-07:00

As Phillip Zimbardo's Stanford Prison Experiment showed - we all have the capability and capacity for the kind of depravity that is slowly being revealed to have been perpetrated by our government. Control the environment and parameters of reward/punishment and you can get most people to do any vile thing you task them with. It continues to amaze me that the internet is still as open as it is, the dissemination of truth found here and nowhere else (certainly not the fourth estate) has to be seen as the ultimate threat.

I would say that this is an especially dark period of amerikan history then again, almost from the beginning of this country it has engaged in such undertakings. It is the nature of government.

Many argue the ideology/theology that might be driving it, however the inescapable fact is that the common factor is, and always has been, money and power. Lack of the former is the only restraint on the latter (they wipe their asses with constitutions which only provide a tissue thin facade of restraint).

The only way to contain Leviathan is to starve it. Unfortunately, it has grown to such proportions that even to starve it will require strategic 'amputations'. Yes, we have to face the stark reality that there are those in public life who need to assume 'ambient temperature' by any and all means - or more directly, sufficient numbers of those in power need to be eliminated or driven from our shores.

If that ever happens and the country or such fragments as continue to exist intact will have to demand, with force of arms, that the gov't will not tax the incomes or property of the people and that it will honor the rights of the individual without regard for 'society's' plaintive wailings. At that point we cannot allow Leviathan to become fat once again at our expense.

When enough people are frustrated and angry enough to start hanging the bastards - then we might restore the American dream.

In Male Fide
Sic Semper Tyrannis

This story made me weep. Stories like this are wha...

2010-02-03T15:56:14.305-07:00

This story made me weep. Stories like this are what I think of -- and have been thinking of for several years -- when I hear someone say that Republicans are for smaller government than the Democrats. The hell they are.

Unfortunately, just as the Republicans have historically ratified Democratic socialist spending, Democrat Obama is ratifying the precedents of shredding the Bill of Rights done by the Bush administration.

I pledge that I will not waste my vote ever again on a neo-con war-monger.

We are given a view to what many among us are capa...

2010-02-03T11:28:20.322-07:00

We are given a view to what many among us are capable of doing when directed by the state to allow their nether beings to surface.

What will they do when they are told to do the same to "domestic enemies", ie, those who are labeled this way because they have a desire for freedom? Sadly, we know the answer, for the dehumanization process for all of the enforcers of leviathan proceeds apace, even today, with sadistic human refuse referred to as "heroes" for abusing "enemies".

Just as Nazi terror was visited upon common Germans and Communist terror visited upon common Russians, so, to, will the evil of our own state be ultimately visited upon all of us. This is history. This is reality. It will be our reality if we do not act to terminate this abomination.

Dear William N. Grigg, one thing the major media (...

2010-02-03T11:12:28.763-07:00

Dear William N. Grigg, one thing the major media (and typically the so-called "alternative media") almost always do that I find to be appalling--yet expected given their status as mouthpieces of the U.S. government--is that they treat the torture the U.S. government engages in as involving waterboarding, embarrassment, loud music, bright lights, and cold cells.

I realize you have highlighted a number of cases where this is not so, e.g., in this case. But even you usually don't go far enough in reminding people the true level of horror, brutality and depravity the U.S. government engages in regarding the tortures they inflict upon innocent people. Though I commend you for, e.g., bringing up the U.S. government's outsourcing of torture via "extraordinary rendition" to its client-state of Uzbekistan.

I think it would be great for you to write an article that brings up many of the truly horrific tortures that the U.S. government has engaged in, that way each time you write regarding the mistreatment of innocent prisoners you can include a short paragraph explaining the level of depravity this really involves and the scale of it, while linking to your compendium of such cases, in order to remind people that we're not talking about merely giving people a humiliating experience, as Rush Limbaugh would have people believe.

In the below post by me, I provide massive amounts of documentation wherein the U.S. government itself admits it is holding innocent people indefinitely without charges (including children and U.S. citizens), torturing them, raping them--including homosexually anally raping them--and murdering them, and that the orders to do so came from the highest levels of the U.S. government:

"Crushing Children's Testicles: Welcome to the New Freedom," TetrahedronOmega, August 12, 2006 http://www.armleg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=59&mforum=libertyandtruth

Moreover, not just to you, Mr. Grigg, but to everyone who reads this post, let us not forget that those who control the U.S. government staged the 9/11 attacks from beginning to end in order to obtain more funding, power and control, both domestically and in being able to take over foreign countries in furtherance of the establishment's self-termed New World Order world government and mandatory world religion, with enforced population reduction (i.e., mass-murder) of most of the world's population via world war and biological releases--said future depopulation not being motivated out of any concern for the environment, since these are the destroyers of the world, but rather in order to cement their power.

For example, the videos of the South Tower (Tower 2) in the World Trade Center displaying its east corner immediately before its collapse show large quantities of yellow-hot molten metal pouring out of it, with a temperature at least over 1000 °C (as the temperature of an incandescent object is exhibited by its color). Hence we know as a matter of incontrovertible empirical physical fact that large quantities of extremely power incendiaries, on the order of thermite, must have been used in order to collapse the towers, since such cannot be explained by the burning of jet fuel, building materials and airline materials. For much more on this, see my below post:

"Scientists: Large Quantities of Thermite in 9/11 W.T.C. Dust," TetrahedronOmega, August 7, 2009 http://www.armleg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=129&mforum=libertyandtruth

Lastly, for the good news, God has been proven to exist according to the most reserved view of the known laws of physics (i.e., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, general relativity, quantum mechanics, and the Standard Model of particle physics). For the details on that, see my below post:

"God Proven to Exist According to Mainline Physics," TetrahedronOmega, December 26, 2008 http://www.armleg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=122&mforum=libertyandtruth

So take heart: if the laws of physics be for us, who can be against us?

Oh, and by the way. Good for Brandon! At least h...

2010-02-03T07:58:06.600-07:00

Oh, and by the way. Good for Brandon! At least he had the courage and fortitude to seek forgiveness. That our "leaders", devils that they are, don't, speaks volumes about their character no matter the fairy tales they vomit from their pie holes.

Mimi, you've hit on something, like so many ot...

2010-02-03T07:55:36.223-07:00

Mimi, you've hit on something, like so many others, that makes you scratch your head it's so obvious an yet you wonder why it doesn't get more "air". And THAT is the rub right. Mainstream media is for all intents and purposes a propaganda tentacle of the government. It is cozy to the FedGov because of the "special" licenses and largese it receives from the hand of its true "master". Why jeopardize access to da Prez, da Military, and those swanky get together press conferences etc. etc. ad nauseum? When you have a corporation to run, shiny faces with perfect teeth to pay for, shekels to be made, and slaves in flyover country to keep hypnotized, you get along to keep along. As for Mr. Truth, Justice and the American way? Well, he can take his usual seat at the back of the bus.

WHY ISN'T THIS ON EVERY TELEVISON STATION IN T...

2010-02-03T04:47:07.632-07:00

WHY ISN'T THIS ON EVERY TELEVISON STATION IN THE COUNTRY? WHEN WILL THE AMERICAN PUBLIC RISE UP AND END THIS HORROR?

5-Pillar Scribe, Thank you. I have pondered what ...

2010-02-03T02:38:32.260-07:00

5-Pillar Scribe,

Thank you. I have pondered what is going on around us, and I suggest this scenario for fellow readers:

The Jews were a people chosen by God for holiness; their Book, the Torah, is a masterpiece of wisdom. They were chosen to give birth to the Messiah.

Nothing could be more dangerous to the evil plans of Satan, the Prince of This World, and therefore I believe Satan has directed the full force of his cunning and deception against the Jews.

Secular Zionists are doing the work of Satan, not of God, and do not even know it, since they keep justifying everything they do by their being the Chosen People, given license, they think, to do whatever they please through a Covenant with God.

A few Jews, a small minority, see the truth and are distressed. The vast majority are doing or condoning unspeakable evil, and cannot see it. Just like the concentration-camp guards Mr. Grigg and Hannah Arendt describe, they commit the most vile atrocities and call themselves the victims.

Because of the media and propaganda power they have in America, we are becoming just like them. Read again the links I gave which show how they control virtually ALL the media throughout the world, and thereby set the tone of world culture. The whole world is being corrupted and degraded by these people, Chosen by God, but doing the work of Satan. What a tragedy.

(The whole reason the USSR was an anti-Christian empire was because Jews founded it and controlled it in the early years. They have been taught since the time of Jesus 2,000 years ago to despise and hate everything associated with Jesus and his message. Witness the persecutor Saul who became the Apostle Paul. Again, this abiding hatred is the great deceiver Satan at work.)

The only consolation I have is the declaration of the Messiah (a Jew) to Pilate: "My Kingdom is NOT of this world." So it is futile for us to hope otherwise. Satan rules here, God rules there. Our task is to do the best we can, recognizing that this world is a learning and a testing ground to prepare us for something better.

Mr. Grigg, another powerful and distressing story. But one with a ray of hope: At least Brandon Neely had the guts to face his actions and apologize, and at least his Muslim victims had the grace to forgive him. I see the Holy Spirit at work. I see the roses of divine love bravely blossoming in the cesspit of this world, in spite of the strenuous efforts of Levin and Limbaugh and their ilk to smother them. Thank you.

Lemuel Gulliver.

http://www.thornwalker.com/ditch/sniegcontents.htm...

2010-02-02T20:30:48.459-07:00

http://www.thornwalker.com/ditch/sniegcontents.htm
Iraq was not about OIL.
What if all this war, this crusade, to use Mr Bush's term, in Afghanistan and Iraq and now with Mr Obama in Yemen and elsewhere, is not what the American people are told it is about?

What if all those boys from the South and elsewhere who now have no arms and legs, who are buried in Arlington, what if that is all about something else?

What was done at Abu Ghraib, at GITMO, at the base in Afghanistan, all of the EVIL, the CIA etc were trained by Israelis. Trained in this sickness of torture.

Pat Buchanan knew it was untrue what the neocons were claiming.
http://www.amconmag.com/article/2003/mar/24/00007/

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/nc-kwiatkowski3.html
Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski, a former Pentagon insider, observations on the run-up to the Iraq war

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2009/09/10/911-our-truth-and-theirs/

Justin Raimondo's questions got him fired by Ariana Huffington. Which is a compliment to his decency.

One need not be puzzled any longer as to why good Christian young men and women were able, so easily, to torment their fellow human beings. It was the guiding hand from Tel Aviv.
They TRAINED these young people in this and they and their allies in our government are the true culprits not Lyndie England.

Fear not the path of the truth because of the lack of people walking on it.

liberranter is correct, those of us who love liber...

2010-02-02T19:35:29.810-07:00

liberranter is correct, those of us who love liberty will soon be next. Something wicked this way comes... Resistance must start at home. Parents must ensure their children never get beguiled by the State's lies of "duty, honor, country". Yet we must teach our children the skills of marksmanship, tactics, caching, etc. But most importantly we must teach them the spirit of liberty and the courage to defend it.

"Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all th...

2010-02-02T17:49:57.914-07:00

"Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself."

Breaks my heart to see what this country has come ...

2010-02-02T17:33:18.384-07:00

Breaks my heart to see what this country has come to. No WMDs' were ever found--Not that they actually existed. The invasion was a done deal long before it happened, Billions lost in shady contracting deals, personal liberties infringed, private contractors shooting up innocent people without accountability. And to top it off, sadistic chicken hawks like Limbaugh, Levin, Hannity and others glorifying in the torture and death of people held persona non gratia over the public airwaves.

I pray the for hastening of the second coming, so the King of kings will stop this madness, and execute perfect judgment on those who have abused power in the name of patriotism and profit, and bring healing in his wings for those who suffered under this tyranny.

This is an amazing story that I didn't know --...

2010-02-02T15:51:24.858-07:00

This is an amazing story that I didn't know -- not something one is going to read about in CIA-administered organs such as the WaPo and the NYT.

Thank you.

May God grant us all ten times the strength of Oma...

2010-02-02T15:10:43.409-07:00

May God grant us all ten times the strength of Omar Deghayes. Those of us who love liberty and who will fight to restore it in America are going to need it much sooner than we think.