Comments on Pro Libertate: The Soviet States of North America (Pt. I): Illegal Immigration -- The Problem is the State

Hey Chief,We're getting ready to start up a new il...

2007-02-07T23:27:00.000-07:00

Hey Chief,

We're getting ready to start up a new illegal immigration blogburst. If you're interested shoot me an email and I'll get you the info.

Thanks,
Jake

Is our depraved, sensate culture merely the outgro...

2007-02-07T00:08:00.000-07:00

Is our depraved, sensate culture merely the outgrowth of natural social causes unrelated to any nefarious top-down intrigue? No, on the contrary, the Gramscian Marxist model for social control through cultural subversion, the "long march through the institutions", is a well-honed dystopian blueprint. By first capturing its cultural institutions, Gramscian strategists will then be positioned to easily subvert the targeted nation's political institutions. In fact, the targeted government will fall effortlessly into their hands, and the people, having been conditioned to love their slavery, will embrace the political changes. Aspiring tyrants employing the Gramscian strategy in their quest to create the omnipotent and ubiquitous State will eventually wear down a targeted populace, taking full advantage of human psychological and axiological weaknesses. The masses are at a distinct disadvantage, for they cannot perceive nor understand the organized forces arrayed against them. Add to that the fallible condition of the human psyche and its susceptibility to base instincts, and we commoners become as malleable as silly putty in the hands of our Skinnerian molders. We as individuals who make up the national collective do bear much responsibility for the current cultural malaise. However, the semi-submerged power elite who have greased the skids via Gramscian subversion are guilty of the greater sin.

Will, I think you might be reading too much into ...

2007-02-02T17:47:00.000-07:00

Will,

I think you might be reading too much into your friend's comments. It is true that 20 million illegals are having a devastating effect on our economy. While the illegals aren't totally to blame for the problem (as you point out), nevertheless they are a necessary part of the equation.

I've come to the conclusion that competitive free enterprise and free-trade works best with a well-developed economy and workforce. Much of the welfare and regulatory state could be abolished in a country where labor is relatively scarce, since there would be market incentives to address the needs and concerns of workers. But it is when millions of dirt poor people are injected into an economy that there is the so-called "race to the bottom" that the left falsely attributes to all capitalism.

As for the cultural component of illegal immigration, a recent realization depressed me: We often complain about Hispanic assimilation, but WHAT ARE THESE PEOPLE ASSIMULATING TO? Based on the gang membership rates, out-of-wedlock birthrates, and so on within the Hispanic community, it appears that they are assimilating into same rotten culture that most of the world associates with America. In many respects, it is worse if they assimulate!

With so little cultural glue of any moral merit holding America together, I don't see how she will survive the various forces pulling it apart.

David Stertz

That our contemporary culture is a Stygian sewer i...

2007-02-01T21:11:00.000-07:00

That our contemporary culture is a Stygian sewer is obvious. How this is related to the problem of illegal immigration is not.

Yes, and the State didn't make it that way! The State capitalizes on that state of mind, it does not create it. The people themselves have made it so, or otherwise allowed it to become so.

It's reasonable to believe that, absent such intervention – along with mandated bilingualism and other policies designed to trap immigrants in cultural and linguistic ghettos – our culture would be able to absorb new immigrants with much less difficulty. And it's likewise reasonable to believe that if our economy were freed from the burden of a huge and metastasizing welfare/warfare state, it could easily produce jobs at suitable wages for both immigrant and native-born workers.

Illegal immigration, as opposed to the state of the culture, may indeed be "engineered" to some extent, yes. Still, it is also capitalized upon and utilized to their benefit as you pointed out. Even so, for some elusive reason you keep thinking of "the State" and "the commoners" as totally unrelated entities and are so vastly disconnected that if "the State" was somehow controlled or put back on a leash, everything would just be hunky-dory. (LOL!)

Nonsense. I completely disagree. Once again, other than the minuscule "Power Elite" minority, the vast majority of people who fill government positions don't hail from another planet or secret societies, they come right out of us. If the aggregate commoners were not so "in love" with government (jobs, entitlements, etc.) to begin with and the people were made up of Crocketts, Washingtons, Madisons, or Jeffersons, the State wouldn't be able to "engineer" these schemes so easily. Alas, there are way too few of those kinds of characters and minds amongst us, Will.

Let me try to "connect some dots" to make the connection I alluded to more apparent:

1.) Government is the largest employer in many areas of the country. Government jobs are easy, they pay high dollar, they offer insane benefits, etc. Have you ever even compared the average private sector worker to the average government worker? I mean seen it first hand? I have, and there's a world of difference between the two. Yet, as I said, government is the largest employer in many areas of the country and constitute a high percentage of the job growth in still other areas. None of that reveals a damn hitherto unknown attribute about government. Government is government and always has been bureaucratic, slow, lazy, regulatory, and grossly inefficient. Instead, what it indicates is the character of the people themselves who flock to such jobs.

2.) Government has been chosen by the people as their de facto arbiter in all critical matters. You hear people saying "There should be a law..." or "I'm gonna sue...," etc. All involve the government bureaucracy to force or mandate an action, inaction, or the government court system to arbitrate and referee.

3.) Entitlements ate up 54% of federal spending in 2005. Entitlements are consumed by the private sector and private citizens as well as by the state and local public sectors and state and local public officials. Social Security is the largest entitlement, while Medicare is growing the fastest. Both of those drinks are consumed by private citizens. Many drink heartily and greedily from the public trough.

Remember Will, Hitler was voted into power by the commoner; he did not perpetrate or "engineer" a surprise coup d'etat.

It always struck me as rather "odd" that we'd cons...

2007-02-01T12:00:00.000-07:00

It always struck me as rather "odd" that we'd constantly be meddling overseas with this and that all the while leaving the borders wide open and turning a blind eye... (speaking for our so called "leaders")

Actually it makes perfect sense, in an evil sort of way, if what you want to do is destroy a nation from the inside.