Comments on Pro Libertate: Felonious Hugging

This makes me laugh so hard!!!! Ive know veronica ...

2012-06-13T17:04:28.440-06:00

This makes me laugh so hard!!!! Ive know veronica since i was 6 and she was in college. my mom let me spend the night all the time, ride in her car, go to movies, the park, she'd take me to school and pick me up. id see her pretty much everyday. She worked at west centeral community center which is where i met her. she was my mentor and best friend, and tought me alot. she NEVER ONCE touched me inappropriately. the idiots who put the charges against her are retarded. im now 21 and she 31 live just down the road from me. i see her almost everyday and 15 years later were still best friends....and no shes never tried to touch me or do anything sexual now that im of age to have sex or do sexual acts.

Even if they were sleeping together he was an adul...

2011-07-23T21:06:01.360-06:00

Even if they were sleeping together he was an adult by historical standards. My great great grandfather came over from Hungary on his own at 14.

What's the knee jerk reaction about sexually active teens that decide at some point to sleep with someone over the age of 18?

Even if they had been sleeping together the boy wa...

2011-07-23T21:03:30.226-06:00

Even if they had been sleeping together the boy was by historical standards an adult. Be Franklin left home and was on his own at about the same age. My great great grandfahter came over from Hungary at 14 by himself.

What's the knee jerk reaction all about when a person in their teens that is sexually active with other teens picks someone over the age of 18 to sleep with?

From several sources I've heard that District ...

2009-09-29T00:04:54.584-06:00

From several sources I've heard that District Attorneys receive federal funding for the prosecution of "sexual abuse," effectively providing a bounty for every prosecution. When actual child molestors are in short supply, prosecutors trump up "sex crime" charges against the merely indiscreet, such as Veronica Rodriguez. This bounty hunting needs investigation. When I asked the Klamath County DA about it he exploded in a rage against those who would obstruct his pursuit of "these monsters." Very difficult to get straight info when direct questions provoke this sort of response, whose vehemence suggests that something very rotten is being concealed.

Prairiesurfer,I think the best answer I can offer ...

2008-03-03T00:14:00.000-07:00

Prairiesurfer,
I think the best answer I can offer is not mine, but is a witticism coined by one of the French philosophers of the Enlightenment - I don't know which one, Voltaire or some such, who said: "Dans toute l'histoire, il y avait un seul vrai Chretien - et il etait un juif." - "In all of history, there has been only one true Christian - and He was a Jew."

People are all to ready to clothe themselves in the holiness of Jesus, and to congratulate themselves for that achievement. Personally, just as you call yourself a "follower of Jesus," rather than call myself a Christian, I prefer to call myself an "aspiring Christian." I am and always will be an unfinished work in progress until the day I die, and hope that at that time, my futile efforts will be sufficient to provoke divine compassion.

Tom Eddlem,
Nobody can argue with your points. They are so obvious there is no comeback. But we can ask ourselves, "Why?" and "How?" I believe one of the major problems (and also one of the major strengths) of this country is that it is a country of law. (Yes, I know, one would not think so any more, but it is very ingrained in our psyche.)

However, one can never pass enough laws to address every possible situation and set of circumstances. When courts and legislatures try to apply law to every possible situation, it is inevitable that the law falls short, and instead of producing a just outcome, this rigidity of thinking produces injustice instead. Personal liberty becomes instead ever more and more constrained by the State, in an effort to prevent every conceivable error in interpersonal relationships.

We ALL know right from wrong. It is very simple, and does not require the millions of pages of law codices we have produced in 230 years. Basically, respect for individual property is all we need to observe, whether it is the property of one's person, one's thinking, one's water to drink and air to breathe, or one's material goods. If each individual and each corporation and each group respected the property of each individual, instead of trying to steal it by perversions of the vast multitide of codified laws, we would live in a Utopia. If we all said, my properties are mine, and your properties are yours, and neither of us will take from the other, and common property like the air and the forests and the water are the property of all and belong to no one, we would live like the First Americans, who called the Earth their Mother and the Sky their Father. How can a man own his mother and his father? They said, we do not inherit this world from our forefathers for our use, we hold it in trust for our children, for their use.

And our European immigrant forefathers called them "savages." I guess, when one wants to steal someone's land and property it is easier to call them a "savage" or an "Arab" or any of a number of epithets we have invented.

So - no answer to your observations, except to say, yes, we humans have a lot of evolving left to do.

Best Wishes,
Lemuel.

Here's my dilemma: I've long believed that there i...

2008-03-01T12:40:00.000-07:00

Here's my dilemma: I've long believed that there is a less serious category of non-sexual "sexual" crimes that ought to be punished less severely. There are lots of people who do lewd, immoral things that do not merit lifelong stigma or prison sentences, such as kids in college who go streaking, or a high school kid who moons his teacher over an "F." (By the way, I've done none of these things.)

However, as someone who lives in Massachusetts, where they treat repeated child rapists more lightly than traffic violations (they often receive less than a year in prison), I'm a bit hesitant to criticize strict sentencing guidelines.

I do understand that in Massachusetts that someone who is stuck in a never-ending traffic jam on a weekend trip to Cape Cod (I've never had to do this either, though there have been times when I've come close) and goes into the woods to relieve himself, will be tagged as a "sex offender" for the rest of his life. That's not right either.

2008-03-01T04:52:00.000-07:00

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Lemuel,Bush has already started throwing the Democ...

2008-02-29T23:57:00.000-07:00

Lemuel,
Bush has already started throwing the Democrats in jail - Don Siegelman - Ex Alabama Govenor - 7 years.

If Bush can get away with that one, I would venture to say he can probably get away with you or I.

I went to L Parks web site that was linked-what a sicko! The rest of the vocabulary that comes to mind to describe him should not be posted. This guy is really in love with himself, and his deep thoughts.

Nice to know we have such wonderful thugs to buy and support our "Christian" politicians.

I too renounced my Republican label for that of Independent, temporarily rejoining so as to canvas for Dr Paul. I have in recent times, started to back-pedal from even the label of "Christian", preferring to keep it on a simple level of "follower of Jesus", due to the bad name that every NeoCon who wants to get elected has called himself.

Careful, Will! Be careful! You must not show too i...

2008-02-29T18:12:00.000-07:00

Careful, Will! Be careful!

You must not show too intimate a regard for any one of your five children. You must address the boys as "mister" and the girls as "madam," and NEVER kiss or hug or even touch any of them. Otherwise you might be convicted of having thoughts of incest with your daughters, or, in the case of hugging one of your sons, having the intention to commit homosexual acts.

After all, who knows your own mind better than a prosecutor or judge, who has seen the sleazy side of life? These mighty and holy men and women, may Allah shower his blessings upon them and take them into his bosom, are charged with preventing crime, so what better way than to lock up anyone suspected of having bad thoughts?

Imagine an America that looks like a Wal-Mart commercial, with happy faces in every aisle. All the unhappy faces have been sent to jail.

For example, any time George Bush gives a speech, perhaps they could lock up 20-30 million Democrats for the rest of their lives, for harboring thoughts which allegedly prove their inherent proclivity to commit murder.

("Oh boy! What a great idea! We were wondering how we could possibly steal the NEXT five elections.")

Of course, this was the way little George Bush was raised, which explains two things: One, why our country is in such a mess right now, and two, why the Repugnicans want to institutionalize rigid, robotic and inhuman parenting, as practised in the Bush Crime Family. This is the only way they know to raise their evil spawn, which is probably why Republicans are all such strange, twisted, voracious people, like Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly. All of them were probably unwanted children whose parents would have gladly aborted them, but because of rigid dogma, unwisely chose to carry them to term and inflict them on the world instead.

How's that strike you for a new definition of Republicans?: "The unaborted." It has a certain Transylvanian resonance to it, don't you agree?

Yours happily,
Lemuel.

I've worked in my state's court system for nearly ...

2008-02-29T09:03:00.000-07:00

I've worked in my state's court system for nearly 25 years, and just have to ask: Is this one of the most egregious case you've seen? How about 10 years for a guy who exposed his privates to a nearly 18-yr-old boy at a beer party? How about 12 years for a guy who copped a cheap feel from his drinking partner at a bar? or 7 years for a guy whose hand, accidently he claimed, touched the private area of a niece while rough-housing? or 10 years for a retarded 19 year old who received oral sex from a younger teenage strumpet who approached him? And all these cases are just from our court. These cases are going on throughout the land on a weekly, if not daily, basis. Kind of makes me wonder just how isolated your life in Idaho has become!

This story just reminds me of many young, naive wo...

2008-02-29T06:49:00.000-07:00

This story just reminds me of many young, naive women to come into my field of residential care. I can remember many times telling one that "when Joey wants a hug, he's trying to cop a feel." So the advice is "side hugs only." In this woman's case, she clearly became too close to this young boy.

It happens to pretty much everyone who works with kids at some time or another. A kid comes along who really pulls at the worker's heartstrings. The worker loses his/her objectivity and allows him/herself to become too involved with the kid. The worker believes he/she is helping the kid, but doesn't see that he/she can be of no good to the kid whilst losing his/her objectivity.

Of course, most workers don't get to this level of involvement, but it's all too common to one degree or another.

This is social control for the sake of social cont...

2008-02-29T06:01:00.000-07:00

This is social control for the sake of social control. Those responsible for these kinds of measures are sadists, and they care nothing at all about what happens in society as long they can regulate us into oppressive fear and self-loathing while they extract tremendous power and wealth. It is imperative that they imprison attractive women so that they cannot be accused of sexism, although their policies are designed primarily to destroy men. 1-2% of men will be convicted of rape in his lifetime in the US, and 1 out of 50 adult males is in prison today in the US. The forces of social control also design to control a signficiant percentage of men who are not in jail, through the criminal process. These men are considered surplussage, and the money to be obtained controlling them is considered legitimate profit in the pursuit of genetic purity of the race.

Stalin? No, he wouldn't be appalled. He'd be proud...

2008-02-29T01:14:00.000-07:00

Stalin? No, he wouldn't be appalled. He'd be proud for the destruction his followers are inflicting on this once great nation.

This is so loony that even Joseph Stalin would be ...

2008-02-28T11:06:00.000-07:00

This is so loony that even Joseph Stalin would be appalled at the injustice involved.

Reason number 10 as to why I hate the Republican p...

2008-02-28T05:29:00.000-07:00

Reason number 10 as to why I hate the Republican party. Absolutely corrupt to the core - due in large measure to the massive amounts of money that has flowed in over the last decade from weirdos like Parks. This guy Parks reminds me of Bill Oreilly. Obsessed with expanding the States ability to root out sex crimes while living the life of a reprobate. I was a life long Republican till last year when my political affiliation was changed to Independent. I have never regretted it since.

In one instance you wrote chapter 11 instead of me...

2008-02-28T04:20:00.000-07:00

In one instance you wrote chapter 11 instead of measure 11.

wow. I'm continually amazed at either the cowardic...

2008-02-28T00:50:00.000-07:00

wow. I'm continually amazed at either the cowardice, or Christian self-control of the family members of the victims that are introduced to us on this forum. If my daughter had to serve 6 years for the sake of a prosecutor's career, I would patiently, elaborately plan some private time between me and those responsible.