Comments on Pro Libertate: Who's Afraid of "Rate My Cop"?

Did you sympathize at all with the entrepreneurs w...

2015-02-11T20:39:35.033-07:00

Did you sympathize at all with the entrepreneurs whose businesses were burned and pillaged in the riots while the cops either stood and watched, or made a priority of protecting government facilities?

Unless you're part of the political class, the police don't protect you.

God bless our police officers! After the abuse I ...

2015-02-11T20:19:09.127-07:00

God bless our police officers! After the abuse I witnessed our officers take after the Ferguson issue, I support them 100%!

TOO LATE..ratemycop has been taken over by bully c...

2009-07-30T09:43:18.493-06:00

TOO LATE..ratemycop has been taken over by bully cops who are kicking people off the site as they see fit...their is no 1'st amendment safety and no safety in rating cops anonymously..something those cops in power (on site) do not understand.

You are quite skilled with a thesaurus, I wonder w...

2009-02-23T00:43:00.000-07:00

You are quite skilled with a thesaurus, I wonder why it is that you can't seem to come up with any sort of valid counter-point to the posts. I won't waste my time showing you examples, facts, or statistics because I can see now that you aren't looking for any sort of actual productive debate. You simply want a soap box, and are forced to revert to attacking spelling choices in the face of someone who can provide a valid argument against you. Good luck to you sir, and by all means feel free to call that crackhead I mentioned earlier instead of me. To hear it come from you, he will do a better job anyway. May your family never be in danger, may your life never be threatened, and may your property never be taken from you. Because if any of those things happen, you will find yourself in need of us. When you do, be sure you thank the officer for the job he or she does, and I hope your words you have to eat don't have too bad of a taste for you to swallow. You can skip the response if you hope for me to see it, because I won't be returning here. However, I highly doubt you have ever let someone else have the last word in your life.

"Insert random thesaurus-beaten response about nothing here"

As one of my favorite fictional characters once ob...

2009-02-22T18:04:00.000-07:00

As one of my favorite fictional characters once observed: "Ah, arrogance and stupidity in the same package -- how efficient!"

I'm not in the habit of dealing in sterile, useless, self-serving, manipulative hypothetical questions. They are examples of a form of delusional adolescent illogic called "magical thinking."

Another really good example occurs later in the same post in which you accused me of somehow being implicated in the death of a police officer whom I'd never had any involvement, presumably because I share the opinion that armed bureaucrats shouldn't be permitted to intimidate innocent citizens without consequences.

(It's a further demonstration of your incurably juvenile mind-set that you refer to people who wish to hold officers accountable as "taddle-tales" -- an example of good-enough-for-government-"work" spelling, incidentally; the term is generally spelled "tattle-tales.")

When not indulging your adolescent petulance, you have retailed bumper-sticker bromides -- such as your closing observation regarding kissing vs. saving the public's ass. Yes, I've seen and reported on that typically self-glorifying police bumper-sticker.

The fact is, you're here as a revenue farmer for the government, and any aid you'd render to me or anybody else would be exceptional and incidental to your primary occupation.

As someone who intends to live as a free citizen, my anatomy is my own to save, thank you -- and quite frankly, cretinous armed functionaries like you are a FAR greater threat to it than any potential private threat.

I hate to say it, but you show your ignorance more...

2009-02-22T14:23:00.000-07:00

I hate to say it, but you show your ignorance more and more with each post I read from you. I also like how you conveniently dodged the question about how you would feel if your family were victimized by someone I couldn't arrest thanks to the choke-chain that is placed on officer's necks and tightened by the minute by the "good" people just like you.

Here are some facts for you to chew on. In many other countries, the police are viewed with a massive amount of respect and reverence. Is it because they are the kinder, gentler people? Hardly. If you are suspected of a crime, the first thing they do is make you submit by WHATEVER force necessary, and then they ask you whatever questions they need answered. If it turns out you are innocent, they take you out of handcuffs and send you on your way. You know what? No one has a bad thing to say about the police officers, and the crime rate is significantly lower. It is almost nil in many areas. What else? The citizens LOVE them for their service. Do they look at it as police brutality? Of course not, because all that you have to do is comply and you have nothing to fear. What's more, they know that their streets are safer because criminals are afraid of the consequences. Are there examples of police abusing their powers? Certainly, but I challenge you to show me one profession out there that is free from some measure of corruption.

You can rant and rave on here about how aggressive police are becoming, but the bottom line is we are forced to be that way by the public we serve. I face people who size me up daily. People who steal cars, murderers, rapists, child molesters, you name it. How can I tell them from you? Is it because you are in a suit? Is it because you tell me that I should trust you? Is it your income level? How do I know the person who wants to kill me from the person who wants to shake my hand? Is it worth my life to sit around until I figure it out?

I will leave you with the example of an officer who was killed in the line of duty. Previously to the incident that claimed his life, he was reprimanded for pulling his duty weapon in a situation where he felt threatened, and the person he encountered decided to file a complaint. The officer was not in the wrong, but was told to think of "public perception" when drawing his weapon. The officer makes a traffic stop, and encounters a person who is ex-military, and mentally impaired. The man begins dancing in the road, refusing to follow police instruction, and ultimately returns to his vehicle and recovers a firearm. He shoots the police officer as he is calling for help, wounding him. The man then advances on the police vehicle, stands over the wounded police officer, and fires the last round into the face of the downed officer, uttering the final word "Motherfucker" as he squeezes the trigger. The officer never pulled his weapon, and the wide-spread belief is because he had been chastised about public perception before the incident.

You sir, contributed to the death of that officer. You, and everyone else who want to be taddle-tales when someone is rude to you. Deal with it. If you start digging around in your pockets when I instruct you to keep your hands where I can see them, you'll see my gun drawn. If you resist, I'm going to subdue you. If you run, I'm going to chase you. If you fight, I'm going to fight harder, and I'm going to win.

You HAVE the right to resist false arrest. You HAVE the right to due process of law. You HAVE the right to be safe in your home. You HAVE the right to walk down the street and not be robbed. You HAVE all of those things because we are on the front lines to give them to you. You, your neighbor, your grandma, or any of the countless other people in this country called us because the situation was out of their control. They didn't invite us over for dinner. They weren't just calling to see how our day had been. They weren't interested in hearing about us telling a young, single mother that her son was killed by a drunk driver earlier in the night. They called us because they were afraid. They called us because they had and emergency, and something bad had happened. Someone was trying to hurt them, and that someone might be you.

The bottom line is we are here to save your ass, not kiss it. As I said before, and I still stand by it with fierce determination, if you honestly think you can do a better job by all means put your application in immediately. If you hate us and our government so much, leave. The sad part is, I would still lay down my life to save yours if given the oppurtunity.

I pose a question or two to you.... [W]ho will com...

2009-02-20T19:27:00.000-07:00

I pose a question or two to you.... [W]ho will come to your rescue when all the police officers can no longer take the constant abuse that is thrown at them by the people they swore to protect?

While police come in for their share of criticism, they are for the most part lionized, rather than abused, by the entertainment and news media and most of the public.

Many police do help people in dangerous situations. But under existing court precedents there is no civil or legal liability (there's that word again) that attaches when a police officer fails or refuses to protect a specific individual threatened in a particular situation. That's why citizens should be prepared to defend themselves, rather than relying on the rented services of strangers.

[W]e usually have NO idea what or who we are dealing with on every traffic stop, domestic call, or any other call to service....

Those of us in the general public likewise have no idea who WE confront when we are stopped by armed strangers wearing the insignia of the most dangerous criminal syndicate in human history (the government that rules us). "Rate My Cop" can help address that disadvantage, albeit generally after the fact.

To know that if you don't take command and establish dominance in every (yes every) situation that you are in could mean that someone gets hurt or killed is a huge burden to bear.

Well, let us help you lay that down that burden!

What about the burden of those of us who are expected to submit to your "dominance"? Submission is something not properly required of any free individual, by anyone, at any time.

How can one reconcile the idea of "serving" the public with the directive to "dominate" every encounter with the same? Could it be that at least some of the burden you refer to is the product of cognitive dissonance?

I would take a moment, and only a moment, to respo...

2009-02-20T16:03:00.000-07:00

I would take a moment, and only a moment, to respond to this simple-minded blog about "hiding behind officer safety". While examples appear where misconduct occurs, when you look at the vast numbers of police/community interactions that happen on a daily basis, the misconduct is very few and very far between. The incident you depict of the officer shooting the family pet is terrible, and I (being a police officer) would never support someone who acted in such a way. However events like that get sensationalized beyond reason thanks to our warmongering media. I will let you in on a little secret as well, for all of us who wear the badge that don't partake in such wrong-doings, we want to see punishment more than you do because that guy is giving the rest of us a bad reputation.

However, concepts such as "Rate My Cop" is easily a serious concern for police officers everywhere, and not because we are worried about getting caught doing something wrong.

Anyone who has never served in the armed-forces or as a police officer cannot (and usually don't bother to try to) understand what it is like to be placed in situations where it could be literally your life or someone else's that hinge on every decision that you make. To know that if you don't take command and establish dominance in every (yes every) situation that you are in could mean that someone gets hurt or killed is a huge burden to bear. To have something else that adds to that burden (i.e. who is watching this event that only gets half the story but wants to sound off for their fifteen minutes of fame) is not only irresponsible, it is just plain stupid. All it does in encourage the general public to look over our shoulder even more, and possibly end up complicating a situation further just by doing-so.

While we are taught to be aggressive in situations, we are also taught a word that is beaten into us from the outset. Liability. Every time we answer your calls for service and are forced to lay hands, fight, spray, taze, or (God-forbid) shoot someone, we have to worry about who is going to sue us. We can do everything by the book, straight down the line, and still end up sitting in the seat labeled "Defendant". Combine that with the fact that we usually have NO idea what or who we are dealing with on every traffic stop, domestic call, or any other call to service, I think it is fair to say that we have enough on our minds without some internet website encouraging everyone to Monday morning quarterback our every move.

Officer Safety? You had better believe it. I have a loving wife that I am going to go home to every night after my shift. Which one of you out there would like to stand up and tell me that you have the right to say I handled a potentially dangerous situation incorrectly, when it was you who called me because you couldn't handle said situation on your own to begin with?

This very article is demonstration of why so many people choose to go into other lines of work instead of policing. The paycheck is laughable, the hours are bad, and you might get killed on your next call. What could top that off? Oh yeah, the people you are trying to help want to be able to "rate" you in case they think you were too demanding, or rude, or had a bad attitude.

As I stated earlier, I love to see officers who do not obey the laws they swore to uphold punished, but don't generalize that we are all crooked and are just scared of getting caught. If you are so keyed up to hate the police, the next time you are in trouble call a crackhead instead. If you think you can do my job better than I do, I know there are no shortage of openings at police departments around the country and I encourage you to give it a try.

In closing, I pose a question or two to you. How liberal will you be when the person who flees from me on a traffic stop (that I can't chase because of liability reasons) runs head-on into a car full of your loved ones? Will I be too rude or rough with the person who breaks into your house in the middle of the night looking for your children? And finally, who will come to your rescue when all the police officers can no longer take the constant abuse that is thrown at them by the people they swore to protect?

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It saddens me that others have nothing better to d...

2008-08-14T22:46:00.000-06:00

It saddens me that others have nothing better to do. Our nation is in trouble and you're concerned about our cops and everyone need to be mindful and respectful of all the police officers all across the United States. I think you should use your time, money and energy on how we can help improve the communities and our nation. All across America others are loosing their jobs and homes. That's why we have a judicial process and if you or anyone else feels that there's a problem with any cob than it should be done decent and in order. I pray not only for you but, for our nation. You're trusting anyone to put anything about an officer and I advise you to consult with a lawyer because, you're leaving yourself open for many lawsuit. Next time please read and see what the law says about libel. You're proud that you created this cite but, what if someone post something negative untrue information about an officer and guess what there is a such thing as slander and libel. Please take my advice and close this cite down before you get hit with mutiple lawsuits. Also, some people always mention their constitution rights read futher and see what it says about freedom of speach. you're provoking potential harm and danger.

Thanks concerned citizens and I love and respect all police officers and firefighters we have a greater fight with politicians. They create the laws and break them why don't you focus more on educating the people about voting...

Remember we're all surpose to obey the law. Judge not for ye may be judge...

rate my cop? why are cops so worried to they have ...

2008-04-04T11:27:00.000-06:00

rate my cop? why are cops so worried to they have something to hide? Maybe if they were loyal and fair to every citizen then they wouldn't have to worry about danger. Wow the things you can realize if you think, AMAZING!

We, a growing nation, need to reform our laws and ...

2008-04-04T11:25:00.000-06:00

We, a growing nation, need to reform our laws and the way we treat each other. No one has respect for another now a days and its pathetic. All people want in this world is to make them selves more powerful,and have money. its all the US is interested in now a days. This society will not work when no one respects another or even has a little love and sympathy. I, believe that every one should have the same oppurtunity and the same chances as the rest and thats not the case. people such as cops and politions are so corrupt now a days. The federal government needs to start cracking down on people with high power. power=corrupt especially in our society as we see it more and more every day who will ever stop it?

Well, this is great. My name is plastered everywhe...

2008-03-16T10:03:00.000-06:00

Well, this is great. My name is plastered everywhere and parts of my article have been spread across the internet. Wooo hoooo.

Too bad nobody has a link to the real article that I posted.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/651775/to_serve_protect_rate_my_cop_offers.html

Unbelieveable that a group of thinking people so w...

2008-03-15T20:18:00.000-06:00

Unbelieveable that a group of thinking people so willingly accept the manipulative rant from Officer Annonymous where he makes two insipid comments.

1) There are a lot of hard working, fair, decent people in our profession.

and
2)If someone feels slighted by something we've done, we want to know.

In response to number 1, I would say that any cop who knows about any brutality, or misdirected (and almost all such efforts ARE misdirected) efforts to persecute ganja tokers are simply NOT fair OR decent. They are terrible thugs, just like the ones committing such attrocities in the first place. There is a concept in theology that one who encourages, provides opportunity or fails to try to stop someone from sinning thatt hey are as guilty as the sinner. This applies here in spades.

Second, wher the f**k does anyone get off reading about a pig browbeating a family into allowing his brutal attempt at murdering the family dog, then make the statement that indicates that this behavior is merely a slight.

Some might wantt o encourage this pig to come back, but I will not be suckered by this lying trash into downplaying the widespread brutality of the police, and the equally guity pigs who allow them to continue without OPENLY demanding action against the brutal thugs and refusing to work with them AT ALL.

The irony in the Dawn Wells incident is I bet she ...

2008-03-15T13:03:00.000-06:00

The irony in the Dawn Wells incident is I bet she wished she was a castaway!

LEO's who use their discretionary powers to willin...

2008-03-15T12:25:00.000-06:00

LEO's who use their discretionary powers to willingly bust low level, non-violent drug offenders are a bunch of number humping bureaucrats with guns strapped to their hips. They are not interested in their oath to protect and serve the public.

Watch "American Drug War: THe Great White Hope" and compare and contrast the "skid rows" presented in Amsterdam, Holland with the utter sh*thole in LA with all the heroin ballons everywhere and nonfunctional people all over the street.

The difference you ask? The difference is the LEO's approach to the war on some drugs and the outcomes speak for themselves. The Amsterdam skid row was clean, and the shows producer had to look for a crack addict, while in the US the crack dealers and users were everywhere, it looked like a third world country, not the US.

Our LEO's have lost touch with their humanity and joined the dark side. If they were interested in protecting the citizens from the real criminals, they would be refusing to participate in the bogus war on some drugs. Hope for the best...but prepare for the worst.

How many of Officer Anonymous' "hard working, fair...

2008-03-14T22:03:00.000-06:00

How many of Officer Anonymous' "hard working, fair, decent people in our profession" refuse to enforce anti-gun laws and other overtly unconstitutional statutes or assist the odious BATFE? Every LEO I've met swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution then spent a career betraying that oath while falsely claiming otherwise. I expect to encounter a unicorn or an honest, competent attorney before I meet a genuinely decent LEO.

I thought I was the only guy who liked Mary Anne b...

2008-03-14T16:44:00.000-06:00

I thought I was the only guy who liked Mary Anne better than Ginger, ah great minds think alike.

Whatever happened to the policeman who was our FRIEND? The neighborhood cop who we all looked up to as the GOOD GUY?

America is not what it was.
William this is the result of over 4 decades of the ADL and AJC teaching Federal, State, and local law enforcement. Can you imagine?!

What would the outcry be if say Dutch Reformed Church was holding seminars for all levels of law enforcement and focusing on shaping what police look for and how they view certain topics and people? Why the ACLU would be roaring in anger.

Yet not a PEEP in media or elsewhere.

What you see that you dislike in the mentality that gave us WACO, Ruby Ridge, and local cops putting their knees on the head of an elderly man in a diabetic coma well you can thank the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith and the American Jewish Committee.

I would agree with anonymous cop. Many cops are fa...

2008-03-14T08:05:00.000-06:00

I would agree with anonymous cop. Many cops are fair, honest and decent human beings. I fact I have found many in the area in which we live to be very strong proponents of the second ammendment. There are some bad ones to be sure. A lot of them tend to be in departments where the chief is dirtbag. It seems the upper management plays a large part in determining the personality types that will make up the force.

I am inclined to repeat an analogy that someone I ...

2008-03-14T03:19:00.000-06:00

I am inclined to repeat an analogy that someone I know has often referred to which indicates that law enforcement consists of nothing but swine. Upon pondering the fact that some people I know eat pork, thus excusing the existence of pigs, I will refrain from such a comment as it would be an insult to hogs everywhere.

Officer Anonymous, your points are well taken and ...

2008-03-13T23:48:00.000-06:00

Officer Anonymous, your points are well taken and elegantly expressed. Thanks for dropping by, and please visit here frequently! God bless you and yours.

As a cop, i gotta say that some of your comments r...

2008-03-13T23:45:00.000-06:00

As a cop, i gotta say that some of your comments ring true. That being said, I think your entry tends to generalize the behaviors of cops. There are a lot of hard working, fair, decent people in our profession. And for the record, I got off shift a couple hours ago. Some fellow oficers and I had a conversation towards the end of the night about Rate My Cop. We were unhappy to see it taken down. As long as safeguards were in place to keep our personal info off the web, let people have their say. If someone feels slighted by something we've done, we want to know. Just like you in your job, I assume, you strive to improve throughout your career. But to return to my earlier point, please don't let the "bad cops" get you down. Most of us are out there trying to do good by the communities we and our families live in.

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2008-03-13T22:21:00.000-06:00

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Mr. Grigg,I greatly admire your abstemiousness as ...

2008-03-13T20:39:00.000-06:00

Mr. Grigg,

I greatly admire your abstemiousness as you shine a (hopefully) cleansing light of journalistic revelation upon the cankerous malfeasance that has taken root in modern law enforcement's principle foundation - its ability to distinguish right from wrong.

Like other readers, I once viewed the police as praiseworthy allies in the battle to preserve and protect a good and decent American way of life. No longer. They, the police, have traded - gleefully so - their place of honor in that battle for the base and egocentric thrills that accompany the pursuit of blitz, power, and ill gotten gain. No longer can they be counted upon to uphold any part of the solution, but are to be viewed, at best, as part of the problem.

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2008-03-13T15:09:00.000-06:00

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www.ratemyDA.com
www.ratemyJudge.com
www.ratemyCongress.com

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