tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post7630044270911735480..comments2017-04-13T04:47:21.148-06:00Comments on Pro Libertate: It's a Thieves' World After AllWilliam N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-36698621688642062292008-07-18T13:28:00.000-06:002008-07-18T13:28:00.000-06:00I too have given up. My wife and I recently comple...I too have given up. <BR/><BR/>My wife and I recently completed a two week tour of the Scandinavian countries...from which I obtained an education in effective people-centered government.<BR/><BR/>Yes, they're still government; but in their diminutive size, they're still beholden to their populace and actually SERVE them in most ways, rather than robbing them blind and beating them silly.<BR/><BR/>I'm in the throes of an attempt to convince my wife to move to a less kleptocratic country.SapiensLibertashttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12335043535997852075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-78499689507597180112008-07-15T11:47:00.000-06:002008-07-15T11:47:00.000-06:00Will dude, you rock! I've corresponded with Marc ...Will dude, you rock! I've corresponded with Marc Stevens and purchased his excellent book a few years ago. In fact, a few months ago I suggested that he invite you to be a guest on his weekly radio show "The No State Project" at www.wtprn.com<BR/><BR/>Speaking of which, do you have an internet, or "conventional" radio show? We'd love to hear it if you do.<BR/><BR/>Keep writing-and fighting!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-75389029716027572622008-07-12T19:40:00.000-06:002008-07-12T19:40:00.000-06:00It would appear that everywhere you look there are...It would appear that everywhere you look there are sturmtruppen. Whether it is in popular media, movies etc. but their omnipresence and brutal tactics are being drilled into the national psyche. I believe it to be conditioning so that the masses are numb to what is going on. I can't remember a movie for the longest time where the FEDS are not bashing down doors or roughing people up... "for their own good".MoThttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13996714804361467430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-28888730353891782812008-07-10T11:34:00.000-06:002008-07-10T11:34:00.000-06:00Your writing is fantastic. While I believe their ...Your writing is fantastic. While I believe their is a legitimate (highly limited) Biblical role for government, our current rulers have slipped the chains and gone from servants to corrupt masters.<BR/><BR/>We should keep the light of truth shining, and eschew violence. We are better at truth and they are better at violence. Let's keep pointing out the truth as long as they will let us.<BR/><BR/>I hope you will consider posting some of your material over at the forums of The Christian Constitutional Society...<BR/><BR/>www.christianconstitutionalsociety.orgMark Moore (Moderator)http://www.blogger.com/profile/17386056132530808723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-10707785166380870872008-07-10T01:26:00.000-06:002008-07-10T01:26:00.000-06:00I guess the difference between a right and left wi...I guess the difference between a right and left wing libertarian is something to be found in the choice of music, aswell as elsewhere. Thin Lizzy against the original folk tune? No way!Markhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05457543061246979818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-91097646919326450722008-07-09T22:18:00.000-06:002008-07-09T22:18:00.000-06:00Dixiedog wrote "You have such a total command of t...Dixiedog wrote "You have such a total command of the English language (at least in the written form...haha!) "<BR/><BR/>I've had the pleasure to see him speak - he's every bit as good on his feet in person.<BR/><BR/>Sic Semper TyrannisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-67950639154476614002008-07-09T22:16:00.000-06:002008-07-09T22:16:00.000-06:00A Thin Lizzy quote, you never fail to amaze me wit...A Thin Lizzy quote, you never fail to amaze me with your breadth Will.<BR/><BR/>"What, exactly, is "legal authority"? Simply put, it is the permission one group of thieves gives itself to steal from people, or commit other acts of criminal violence, with impunity."<BR/><BR/>I think I would reduce it even further; legal authority is simply words on paper, or if you prefer an older phrase "ether". It is the only thing that separates gov't from organized crime (and that may not even be true . . .)<BR/><BR/>Sic Semper TyrannisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-26859899896314746012008-07-09T16:56:00.000-06:002008-07-09T16:56:00.000-06:00Will Grigg never ceases to amaze me with his wit a...Will Grigg never ceases to amaze me with his wit and vividly accurate depiction in words the mental picture or insight he wishes to convey. His writing is so good that Pro Libertate is a pleasure to read, even if I have a difference of opinion.<BR/><BR/>There is no such difference of opinion regarding this post. I live less than 100 miles N of Atlanta right on I-75, and am familiar with the area where the ridiculous incident of the thugs robbing the poor man occurred. I wish I could say that I am surprised, but I am not. <BR/><BR/>I daresay that this was at least partially racially motivated. Unless it has changed, much of the South side, especially the SW area is a rough neighborhood. They likely assumed, or presumed that a black man coming South out of Atlanta on I-75 with GA plates was a drug dealer, and that there would likely be a chance for them to confiscate valuable assets of some kind or another. If they hadn't have found the money they would likely have planted an illegal substance or related paraphernalia and taken him to jail.<BR/><BR/>I have witnessed this happening first hand in South Central TN in the town of Fayetteville. It is apparently "probable cause" for them to stop you and search the car if they see a black person and a white person riding down the road in the same car. When they searched us, supposedly because that F**cking dog sniffed the edge of the car, they found nothing, so they planted what they said was crack cocaine. Off to jail we went, they got a total of almost $2000 in probation fees and court fines out of the two of us, the wrecker service they used to tow our car wound up costing nearly $200, and both of us were disabled living on pittances of fixed incomes. We wound up homeless because we couldn't pay the rent AND the probation fees and Court fines.<BR/><BR/>My point is this, many areas that I know of, Fayetteville being the prime example, have a money making scheme that works like a well oiled machine. In this case it involved local and State law enforcement, a narcotics officer, a local wrecker service, a judge who is fond of probation fees and court fines, and usually one of three local bail bondsmen one who lands in the jail is forced to pick from. In our case, living so far away the bondsmen didn't factor in because we were a flight risk. <BR/><BR/>This type of activity, as well as confiscating precious metals (the thugs will take anything of value), is total lawlessness.<BR/><BR/>The gentleman who was stopped South of Atlanta probably would have gone unnoticed had he been white and driving a pick up truck or SUV at the speed he was going. I used to drive my Thunderbird up and down 75 in the early 90's at speeds exceeding 100 mph on a regular basis, and was never hassled. The difference was I appeared to be an upper middle class white teen teenager who would be more trouble than I was worth. Had any of my friends been Hispanic or Black it would have likely have been a different story.<BR/><BR/>I got one speeding ticket on I-75 less than five miles from home right as I was exiting the Interstate. The State Patrol officer was a smart ass, but he made no attempt to victimize me.<BR/><BR/>With the number of taser related deaths numbering over 300, with a recent one in Louisville, KY, I wouldn't advise anyone who is asked to get out of the car to do so unless you are obviously breaking a law justifying their asking you to get out. Speeding and other traffic violations do not justify them asking you to get out. Only roll your window down enough to hand your ID out. Be prepared to defend yourselves if necessary, they are using tasers (assault with a deadly weapon), like they are a slap on the wrist. Getting out where you are vulnerable is not worth it. Too many people have died. <BR/><BR/>I am not encouraging you to take anyone's life unless it is in self defense, but if you get out of the car when you have been illegally ordered to do so you are jeopardizing your own life. I strongly advise that you don't do that.Mark Lance Earhartmyspace.com/read_the_constitutionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-2585959314553622882008-07-09T16:47:00.000-06:002008-07-09T16:47:00.000-06:00They stated that hunt seemed "nervous." Could that...They stated that hunt seemed "nervous." Could that possibly be because he's a black man with braids being pulled over by police? Given our current situation I'd be surprised about ANYONE, and ESPECIALLY anyone of color, NOT being nervous if pulled over by police.Al Newberryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12702350396853727859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-76775908517736623422008-07-09T14:54:00.000-06:002008-07-09T14:54:00.000-06:00The clothes make the "man": If this tax-devouring ...<I>The clothes make the "man": If this tax-devouring thug isn't an armed robber, why does he dress like one? And why do his partners in crime ... er, public service routinely steal the property of honest businessmen</I><BR/><BR/><I>The instrument has yet to be invented that can identify a material difference between that threat, and those made by robbers in the private sector.</I><BR/><BR/>You have such a total command of the English language (at least in the written form...haha!) that poignantly hammers home the desired points in a <I>clean</I> fashion....sigh... I wish I had that talent to your degree, Will, but I'd end up tainting the phraseology with too much, shall we say, "colorful" language interspersed throughout. High blood pressure and all, just tends to get the better of me, and hence my subsequent oral utterances.<BR/><BR/><I>Which means that the deputies, <B>who had every reason to lie</B> -- and at least one of them was captured lying on video ("I'm gonna count it and hand it back to you") offered no corroborating evidence beyond entirely subjective impressions.</I><BR/><BR/><B>Everyone</B> has, or can contemplate on a whim, a "reason" to lie in their own eyes, Will, about all kinds of things. If he had a genuine moral rudder at all, he'd have not lied* and he'd most certainly not take the man's money, as these acts would be <I>easily</I> discerned as dishonesty and theft by even the walnut-brained. This is why I cringe when I hear/read folk spout/write the "two-digit IQ" nonsense they project upon folk who act the thug in whatever way, as if possessing any moral clarity on a matter <I>requires</I> a high IQ. No, abstract high intelligence and being learned only makes one a more wily thug, a more dangerous and cunning thug, but still a thug.<BR/><BR/>These coppers are part and parcel of the populace/culture that largely thinks/acts, or <I>would act</I> the same way in their daily lives, IF it was merely "lawful." Of course, some wear badges now, giving them that loathesome "lawful authority" to commit the immoral acts that they (and I'd say most average joes on the street) are ONLY restrained from doing otherwise by it being merely "unlawful."<BR/><BR/>Have you never posed a simple, but profound, question of this sort: "By what measure(s) do you determine how you'll act, behave, what you'll do or not do, etc., on just any given day?" to anyone on the street? The answer they give speaks volumes about their character constitution. Given the age in which we live, I'm not surprised at how many folk I've talked to who appear to be <I>only</I> restrained from, or countenance, doing most <I>anything</I> merely by its illegality or legality respectively. That's sad!<BR/><BR/><I>The Perks of Serving the Robber State: Lt. Angelo Adriani, commander of the Hoboken, N.J. SWAT team, uses his team's military gear to pick up chicks at an Alabama Hooter's following a "relief" mission to Katrina-ravaged New Orleans. After photos of the SWAT team's romp were published, the team was disbanded, and Adriani was retired, with his full pension.</I><BR/><BR/>That pic you have there is emblematic in so many ways...sigh. It's symbolic and illustrative of our increasingly effeminate society, IMO. With few exceptions, women have to <I>feel</I> safe and secure to be at ease. Effeminate (not necessarily gay) men, likewise, have to <I>feel</I> safe and secure. To them, the State's agents, naturally, provide that <I>feeling</I> of security and safety. The truth of it be damned.<BR/><BR/><I>It is now occupied by a corrupt, authoritarian kleptocracy -- a government of the robbers, by the robbers, and for the robbers -- that maintains an overseas empire, at least until its displacement by the next globally ascendant robber band.</I><BR/><BR/>But a key question remains, exactly HOW did the government become occupied by robbers? "Government of the robbers, by the robbers, and for the robbers" is about right. It's so clear now when you interchange "people" for "robbers" and vice-versa.<BR/><BR/><I>Freed from the distraction of foreign entanglements, there would be a chance -- slender as an insecure supermodel, delicate as the wings of a frozen butterfly -- that Americans might</I> finally <I>be able to start uprooting the deeply entrenched Robbert State here at home.</I><BR/><BR/>Your command of the English language is superb! You do so play with words like they were putty in your hands. You even imply ever so delicately that the people themselves are the culprit, but you still manage to keep "government" and "the people" in separate corners. This was amusing: "...that Americans might <I>finally</I> be able to start uprooting..." Hmmm, damn, I'm certainly glad that the Founders didn't ponder on whether they'd "be able" to defeat the British. It was do or <I>die</I> trying! Principle overruled pragmatism in <I>that</I> era. Remember Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego? Not so today. Besides, Americans would have to <I>want</I> to change their inner being (a robber) in order to <I>want</I> to uproot the Robber State.<BR/><BR/>* I'm not one of those who buy into the "entrapment" nonsense. After all, there could only be "entrapment" if you operate by pragmatism and not principle and you obviously didn't get the result you expected by acting on pragmatism. It's kind of like, on those rare occasions, when folk <I>pragmatically</I> "kiss ass" in the workplace expecting some kind of high-brow treatment, despite the reality of their performance, and get slapped down instead. I don't have a problem with coppers lying in a murder interrogation, for example. If you don't have your head up ya arse, and ain't trying desparately to be deceptive yourself, you'll be straight up about your answers <I>regardless</I>.dixiedoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09845646940134894119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-24834472731732782132008-07-09T07:44:00.000-06:002008-07-09T07:44:00.000-06:00Why does government oppose the Liberty dollar, and...Why does government oppose the Liberty dollar, and steal cash from citizens? Beyond simple greed, it's important to consider the larger reasons:<BR/><BR/>1. Paper money is an instrument of war finance. Always has been, even when the gold standard prevailed: redeemability would be suspended during wartime. Once the U.S. empire went on permanent war footing after WW II, metallic redeemability of the dollar had to go. And any competing metallic-backed instrument, such as the Liberty dollar, must be ruthlessly suppressed in order to maintain demand for its inferior competitor, the Federal Reserve Note.<BR/><BR/>2. Permanent war footing requires heavy, pervasive taxation. Income tax withholding and reporting was implemented during WW II, and never ended. Since taxation provides an incentive for black markets, a war on bearer instruments and cash is needed to push economic activity into the reporting net. Thus, cash and Liberty dollars are seized, not only for direct government funding purposes, but also as paraphernalia of the black economy.<BR/><BR/>3. Wartime is an emergency. The pretext of emergency can be used to seize powers that couldn't be grabbed during peacetime. Although Congress hasn't declared a war since 1941, dozens of wars have actually occurred, and myriads of laws and regulations are based on declarations of emergency. As a result, we have not only an "elastic currency" under the Federal Reserve Act, but an "elastic rule of law" pursuant to the permanent war. To the extent that cash and Liberty dollars are considered contrary to public policy, the authorities have plenty of vague statutes and plenary powers to seize them under any old excuse, or none at all.<BR/><BR/>Conclusion: I fear that in government, as in the physical universe, a law of entropy prevails. A revolution can restore liberty temporarily, but immediately it enters into relentless decline, until tyranny becomes so complete that another revolution is provoked. The brief flowering of 18th century liberty was nine generations ago -- ancient history, for our purposes. Our lot is tyranny, pervasive tyranny in the form of economic slavery and intrusive monitoring. The fedgov is profoundly evil. Burn that star-and-striped flag of war, oppression and slavery ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com