Comments on Pro Libertate: Fiat Justicia Ruat Caelum

Will, I could not resist adding to the words above...

2008-07-06T21:28:00.000-06:00

Will, I could not resist adding to the words above another line from Thomas Paine, this one written in January 1777 and addressed to Lord Howe following the latter's proclamation of Paine as a "traitor." ( And how many millions of us today share Paine's rejection of the "legitimate" authority?):

"As a military man, your lordship may hold out the sword of war, and call it the ultima ratio regum: "the last reason of kings"; we in return can show you the sword of justice, and call it, "the best scourge of tyrants."

Words to live by, and to die by if necessary.
Lemuel Gulliver

Dear Will,Thank you for reminding us, in this our ...

2008-07-06T18:01:00.000-06:00

Dear Will,

Thank you for reminding us, in this our doleful season of $5-a-gallon gas and $4-a-loaf bread, of the evil and simian instigator of our misfortunes. May his vile name and all his seed be cursed till the end of time, from the highest mountain to the bottom of the sea. I am a good writer, but cannot hold a candle up to Thomas Paine, whose stirring words at the birth of our Republic, on December 23, 1776, may yet serve to be also its obituary:

"These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph.......There are cases which cannot be overdone by language, and this is one. There are persons, too, who see not the full extent of the evil which threatens them; they solace themselves with hopes that the enemy, if he succeed, will be merciful. It is the madness of folly, to expect mercy from those who have refused to do justice.......Say not that thousands are gone, [but] turn out in your tens of thousands; throw not the burden of the day upon Providence, but "show your faith by your works," that God may bless you. It matters not where you live, or what rank of life you hold, the evil or the blessing will reach you all........I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death. My own line of reasoning is to myself as straight and clear as a ray of light. Not all the treasures of the world, so far as I believe, could have induced me to support an offensive war, for I think it murder.......Let them call me rebel and welcome, I feel no concern from it; but I should suffer the misery of devils, were I to make a whore of my soul by swearing allegiance to one whose character is that of a sottish, stupid, stubborn, worthless, brutish man. I conceive likewise a horrid idea in receiving mercy from a being, who at the last day shall be shrieking to the rocks and mountains to cover him, and fleeing with terror from the orphan, the widow, and the slain of America."

Thomas Paine, "The Crisis," 12/23/1776

I never realized how sane Charlie looks until his ...

2008-07-05T13:30:00.000-06:00

I never realized how sane Charlie looks until his photo was juxtiposed with those of the smirking chimp.

We know McCain would issue one of those pardons, just in case. I wonder about the big "O". I think it depends on what war crimes he intends to commit.

As Saddam was being taunted athis execution his la...

2008-07-03T21:32:00.000-06:00

As Saddam was being taunted at
his execution his last words were
that he was trying to protect Iraq
from the Americans.
I think the Iraqis are haunted by
those words.

The power of our President should
make every American shudder.
This golem is of our creation
and it is up to us to contain
or destroy it.

Another great article by Grigg.
I'm thinking of moving to Idaho.

Barack is nothing but a total Marxist sociopath. A...

2008-07-03T19:45:00.000-06:00

Barack is nothing but a total Marxist sociopath. A very scary man. And the opposition ? Hmmm Unstable would be a mild understatement

Having read WNG's blog for sometime now, I must sa...

2008-07-03T14:58:00.000-06:00

Having read WNG's blog for sometime now, I must say I not only enjoy Will's wisdom, but that of the commenters, as well. And as someone born in the first half of the last century, "I feel your pain." No wait, that's MY pain I feel. The great ship that was these united States has run aground, and while her Captain is responsible and should be held accountable, it will be those who have ridden through the storm who will suffer her loss.

Aye:Sic Semper TyrannisHow would you say, "Turn th...

2008-07-03T14:28:00.001-06:00

Aye:

Sic Semper Tyrannis

How would you say, "Turn the other cheek—Don't Vote." in Latin?

"Ha! I kill me!" - Alf"By using the term "legitima...

2008-07-03T14:22:00.000-06:00

"Ha! I kill me!" - Alf

"By using the term "legitimate" in this context, of course, I don't intend to imply that the state enjoys any innate legitimacy."

A brilliant understatement since the State derives any claim to legitimacy from the Constitution, the enabling document for all government in the United States. Which is to say the government, and all auxiliaries thereof, are only legitimate so long as they conduct themselves within the limits placed upon them by the Constitution. The moment they stepped beyond those restrictions, they lost all claims to legitimacy and are legally subject to overthrow by the People. Dangerous words, you say? All my words should be considered dangerous to tyrrants.

Furthermore, Mr. Grigg shall not be "buttle-bagged" (whatever that means). Trust me, any attempt to do so would be be most uncomfortable for any initiating authorities.

Anonymous, Look at the evidence here presented. ...

2008-07-03T12:49:00.000-06:00

Anonymous,
Look at the evidence here presented. Read and understand...

http://www.lexiline.com/lexiline/lexi000.htm

Now tell me what the Bible says about genocide and murder of your enemies. Please keep the Bible out of this discussion of American Law.

When the 50th birthday actually arrives, it's not ...

2008-07-03T11:42:00.000-06:00

When the 50th birthday actually arrives, it's not so bad after all. It's the run-up that's disconcerting.

The same thing happens when a child leaves home for good. The day before is sad and teary for mom, the day of is OK, and the day after you are fine with it, and life goes on and you are glad.

1953 person

The last two presidents have now completely reduce...

2008-07-03T11:27:00.000-06:00

The last two presidents have now completely reduced the office to nothing more than a joke. From Bill Clinton and his dalliance with the oldest "profession" to "W" and the oldest sin - revenge murder! What a pair! Two sides of the same trough.

One future day, I'll click on "Favorites," thence ...

2008-07-03T08:46:00.000-06:00

One future day, I'll click on "Favorites," thence to "Freedom In Our Time," and there find only a bare "404 - File not found" message.

Your dangerous words make me curious, Will. Have you already written and cached the article that will be published by another after you've been Buttle-bagged? And, in it, do you finally suggest the necessary dissolution of the United States? After all, try as one might, it is so very difficult to see any other path if we are to live under a republican form of government once again.

And please pardon my darkness. Must be all part of being a half-centurier.

-- 1957 Human

Might want to listen to my 2-part interview with V...

2008-07-03T08:03:00.000-06:00

Might want to listen to my 2-part interview with Vince Bugliosi.

John Lofton, Editor, TheAmericanView.com

Recovering Republican

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http://www.theamericanview.com/index.php?id=1082

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Bugliosi should have titled his book The Prosecuti...

2008-07-03T07:24:00.000-06:00

Bugliosi should have titled his book The Prosecution, Conviction and Execution of George W. Bush for Murder.

Clinton destroyed a medical plant in the Sudan th...

2008-07-03T07:05:00.000-06:00

Clinton destroyed a medical plant in the Sudan that make affordable medicins for people who otherwise would not be able to affored it.

Thank you for your blog.

2008-07-03T05:07:00.000-06:00

Thank you for your blog.

Anonymous, I'm about to pass -- that is, to fail -...

2008-07-03T00:23:00.000-06:00

Anonymous, I'm about to pass -- that is, to fail -- your Geek Test by saying that Senator Amidala's bitter aside was my favorite line in that movie.

As someone within uncomfortable and narrowing distance from the half-century mark myself, I can sympathize with your tacit but obvious aversion to birthdays, btw.

As I reflect back on my nearly half century mark -...

2008-07-02T22:58:00.000-06:00

As I reflect back on my nearly half century mark - damn getting old sucks - I cannot recall an amerikan administration that has not engaged in this kind of behavior. It is the natural consequence of our arrogant ignorance that it continues. And not just abroad, but here on our own soil as well.

I read a piece by James Bovard just today that makes the case very well, and one that I have held for many years, that in a society where a majority have become dependent on government largesse tyranny reigns and demise becomes imminent. And when I look at the mainstream political candidates I only ponder one question - which one will dash the ship of state into the rocks more quickly?

The only salvation we can hope for as a country is to find in ourselves a spirit and resolve that will render Saddam's fate unto every bureaucratic pud puller in the country with extreme prejudice. And that isn't likely to happen in a country dependent on the government teat.

"And this is how democracy dies - with thunderous applause . . ." (A quote I like to test your skills at celluloid attributions Will)

Sic Semper Tyrranis

One wonders how the Secret Service would react to ...

2008-07-02T21:20:00.000-06:00

One wonders how the Secret Service would react to process-servers or bounty hunters charged to carry out court orders resulting from the legal process Bugliosi outlines; I think such incidents would be both entertaining and edifying.

A nasty scuffle between two competing groups of armed, murderous thugs in the State's employ that escalates into an all-out gun battle? I'm ashamed to admit it, but such an incident would make my decade. Too bad that there isn't that much divine justice in the universe. We stand a better chance of seeing Ron Paul win the November election in a write-in landslide.

"By using the term "legitimate" in this context, o...

2008-07-02T20:10:00.000-06:00

"By using the term "legitimate" in this context, of course, I don't intend to imply that the state enjoys any innate legitimacy." Actually, civil authority is an institution sanctioned by God in the Bible, so the state does have a legitimate function, albeit a very, very limited one.

There will be attempts at trials after the war criminal leaves office, but it looks like he's going to Paraguay. How convenient. Still, Bush is going to need heavier secret service protection after he leaves office than he enjoys now. I could easily see some distraught veteran, or a family member of a murdered veteran , taking their vengeance.

Oaths made by elected officials mean nothing to th...

2008-07-02T18:05:00.000-06:00

Oaths made by elected officials mean nothing to those making the oaths in the US of A.

Saddam was a boy scout compared to Bush the Lesser, but as leader (sic) of the mightiest power on earth, quis ut Deus ?

The question, too, is, what about the Congressmen/...

2008-07-02T15:53:00.000-06:00

The question, too, is, what about the Congressmen/women who voted to give away their Constitutional responsibilities; the military commanders who were "just following orders" by obeying the order to invade while knowing that Congress had not declared war and that they were aiding the enemies of the Constitution...those they had sworn to fight to defend that document. It seems there are few stopping places once indictments begin to appear. There is enough blame to go around. Louis