Comments on Pro Libertate: The Nanny State Goes Nazi

This is truly a terrible turn of events in the goo...

2008-06-25T00:35:00.000-06:00

This is truly a terrible turn of events in the good ol' U.S.A. The Dept. of Homeland Security, FEMA, and all CPS/DHS (child protective services/department of "Human" services) are the instruments of our own oppression.
In IOWA they are ripping families apart at an alarming rate. They steal kids, and elderly...foster homes and nursing homes...horrible. <<< www.savegrandma.org<<< I fear that by the time it is all over, the horrors of the Orwellian nightmare will pale in comparison to what we will have had thrust upon us in the United States.
The fact is, that we as a people must defend our families at ALL cost...To do less makes us lower than the tyrants themselves. To truly call one's self an "American" on must assert those very God-Given rights bestowed upon us and guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution. NOTHING that one does in defense of their constitutional rights (or those of their loved ones) can be considered a crime...In fact, it is YOUR DUTY, as an AMERICAN to defend your liberties! <<< www.savegrandma.org <<< Yes, they will steal your grandmother TOO!
A prayer for America:
God, grant us the wisdom and fortitude to defend ourselves against the eminent onslaught...empower us with your righteous might in removing our oppressors from our midst, that the next day there will be peace...make us an instrument of your will in these things we must do...God save America...Amen

Bob, I'm going to have revised ordering informatio...

2008-01-22T10:33:00.000-07:00

Bob, I'm going to have revised ordering information quite soon. I'm sorry that we don't have the distribution arrangements ironed out -- but I promise to get this worked out as soon as possible.

Sorry for the tardy, and potentially off topic com...

2008-01-22T10:27:00.000-07:00

Sorry for the tardy, and potentially off topic comment, but the ebay link you give to purchase a copy of your book has ended, and I can't find another. Can we order from you directly?

Regards,
Bob

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2008-01-18T16:08:00.000-07:00

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[Well, I love to hear everybody complaining about this situation, however, no one will do anything to actually change the course we are on.]

Well, what would *you* suggest we do?

Every day I look through the MSM, scouring it for even a sentence or two on Ron Paul; I search in vain.

What, exactly, is the point in participating in a political process that, it's painfully clear, was bought and paid for long ago?

Speaking for myself, I think the best way to
"change the course" of the system is to quietly withdraw my support from it. I don't ask anything from it and, therefore, it has no right to ask anything of me. That's about as fair as I can make it.

And, yes, I know how cowardly that sounds, but I just don't see the point in actively participating in
a system that not only doesn't represent my interests, (being left alone to work with other people on a voluntary basis) but *knows* it does not. And yet, regardless, seems to angrily demand my participation anyway.

So, when will the word "revolution" not sound so u...

2008-01-18T15:26:00.000-07:00

So, when will the word "revolution" not sound so unamerican? When will WE THE PEOPLE decide to ACT OUT? Because unless we do something, anything to preserve our humanity in the face of this monstrous juggernaut, soon we will have to whisper, fearing even that will be overheard. Put me on the list! Fascism is not acceptable here! Police state/Soviet style actions against us ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE EVER! And no, I am not an anarchist, I am a (gasp) constitutionalist! I despise tyranny. I would rather be marked for "re-education" than not be marked at all, just one of the sheep. Stop voting, ppl! Get over the high school dreams of yesteryear, and REALIZE that the daddy you thought you had, has become the dragon spoken of in Revelations....I mean, whats it gonna take, folks?

classic cps fascism. if interested read 'wounded ...

2008-01-18T09:50:00.000-07:00

classic cps fascism. if interested read 'wounded innocents' regarding the excessive actions of cps backed up by law enforcement.
all politics are local... so this is local fascism.
another note, 'it can't happen here' by sinclair lewis.
thank you, ssg a

Thanks William for this enlightening postMay God c...

2008-01-17T23:07:00.000-07:00

Thanks William for this enlightening post

May God continue to bless and keep you and your family

Well, I love to hear everybody complaining about t...

2008-01-17T13:18:00.000-07:00

Well, I love to hear everybody complaining about this situation, however, no one will do anything to actually change the course we are on. The answer is just to diffacult to except, and to hard for anyone to carry out. You'll will all be nice sheep and do as you are told, conform, you have no choice or will to fight it. Just except your fate and it won't hurt so bad.

Anonymous @ 12:04 -- What a horrible story. Could ...

2008-01-17T13:07:00.000-07:00

Anonymous @ 12:04 -- What a horrible story. Could you possibly contact me directly, via WNGrigg[at]msn[dot]com?

I know all about SWAT. My husband has severe anxie...

2008-01-17T13:04:00.000-07:00

I know all about SWAT. My husband has severe anxiety disorder, bipolar disorder, and PTSD. The State Police raided and tore apart our entire home, totally unexpectedly, using a bogus search warrant which was obtained using a fabricated story (no probable cause). Nothing but a very small amount of marijuana for personal medical use was found. The lead cop, who was aware of my husbands condition, decided to leave all guns and other weapons alone rather than confiscate them as is standard practice in "drug" raids. This unexpected raid caused my husband to have a severe attack. He thought he was back in Cambodia and began readying his guns for an attack. I attempted to get an emergency mental health order so that my husband could be treated properly for his condition right away. The State Police officer and the 9-11 operator BOTH lied to me, telling me that they would send out a couple cops and an ambuilance to get him and take him to a mental facility, and the next thing I knew a SWAT TEAM was called to our quiet neighborhood. They swarmed the entire area, evacuated neighbors, closed roads in a 3 mile radius, brought in two helicopters,it took 5 hours...
When they "found" him, he was sitting in his truck doing nothing, no weapons of any kind anywhere around him, but they pointed all their guns in his face and threatened to kill him if he moved...They pointed their guns in A LOT of people's faces that day, including mine.
Then they hauled him off to solitary at the jail with no treatment what so ever except to be treated like an animal for 2 weeks until I was able to make bail. We got him the help he needed on our own, without their help, thank-you-very-much.
Of course part of the conditions of bail require him to stay away from me, assuming that I was a "victim"... "What god brings together let no man break asunder" and all that, you know...
And of course my husbands new meds keep him pretty out of it so he NEEDS someone to look after him...
But they would rather create a dangerous situation for him and make my life miserable as well. We've tried to get the orders changed, but no luck no matter what...
And in the end, the pot charges were dropped because they "lost" the evidence... They charged him with 2 counts of "wanton endangerment" even tho it actually could MAYBE be considered as 1 count of brandishing... But the State Cops managed to get TWO illegal searches out of the deal (my house AND the neighbors house) and they SHOT HOLES THRU THE NEIGHBORS FRONT DOOR AND HIS AIR CONDITIONER themselves to make it look like my husband did it!!!!!(wrong kind of gun, but I suppose it gave them the excuse they needed to search that house)...

No doubt they act like that in New Castle, Colorad...

2008-01-17T11:28:00.000-07:00

No doubt they act like that in New Castle, Colorado is fertile groun,nobody has any idea what the constitution really says. Most of the western slope is old crony good old boys, and they don't respect any law but their own.
What's more, the aspen institute just up the road no doubt accomplices these crazed attitudes.

Forgive my ignorance, but what happened to Doug Th...

2008-01-17T11:26:00.000-07:00

Forgive my ignorance, but what happened to Doug Thompson from CHB?

I know that the fellow who runs the "Welcome to Pottersville" blog just had his checking account seized by Citizens Bank because of something he wrote, and I just read this morning about a blogger in Arizona who's being bullied by the local municipal government because he endorsed the people running against the incumbents.

So things are getting nasty all around. I wasn't aware of anything that had been done to Doug Thompson.

I knew that things were getting real bad real fast...

2008-01-17T11:21:00.000-07:00

I knew that things were getting real bad real fast after what happened to Doug Thompson from Capitol Hill Blue, but DAMN this is just over the top!!

It's at the point that the really smart thing to do now is to quietly seek out other "extremeists" and band together. Form underground communities. This is not the time to wear red pants and bring undue attention to yourselves.

I may come across as a traitor for saying what I'm about to say next, but after reading this article, all real Constitutionalists need to understand that they need to stay out of jail or worse.
Tone it down people. The bumper stickers, the yard signs, etc. Do not talk politics to obvious maniacs of the New World Order.
I virtually never quote the Bible, but I keep thinking of a verse from the New Testament that seems very appropiate from here on out.
It's going to get a whole lot worse real soon. Count on it.

"Be as wise as serpents, but harmless as doves."

To 'goldhorder' - Thank you for posting Mayer's in...

2008-01-15T06:12:00.000-07:00

To 'goldhorder' - Thank you for posting Mayer's intro. It made my point far more eloquently than I did. I still recall that my feeling all through that book that it described what I have seen here, now, today over the course of my adult life.

[If you go "prating" about the Bill of Rights, you...

2008-01-15T00:38:00.000-07:00

[If you go "prating" about the Bill of Rights, you will be spotted as a "traitor." The only right either party will defend today is your "right to reamin silent."]

What's even worse about the present state of political discourse is that if you dare to speak out against the status quo, you come across as some kind of "weirdo," regardless of the facts or logic you employ to help make your point.

Someone pointed out that that's the real genius of the our political class: not only have they brought our country to a new level of absurdity, but they've done it in such a way that if you dare to point out just how silly things are, you are the one that ends up looking like the oddball.

Such subtle manipulation would actually be quite admirable on a purely intellectual level...if I weren't living here and subjected to the consequences on a day-to-day basis, that is.

[If you go "prating" about the Bill of Rights, you...

2008-01-15T00:34:00.000-07:00

[If you go "prating" about the Bill of Rights, you will be spotted as a "traitor." The only right either party will defend today is your "right to reamin silent."]

What's even worse about the present state of political discourse is that if you dare to speak out against the status quo, you come across as some kind of "weirdo," regardless of the facts or logic you employ to help make your point.

Someone pointed out that that's the real genius of the our political class: not only have they brought our country to a new level of absurdity, but they've done it in such a way that if you dare to point out just how silly things are you are the one that ends up looking like the oddball.

Such subtle manipulation would actually be quite admirable on a purely intellectual level...if I weren't living here and subjected to the consequences on a day-to-day basis, that is.

That quotation from Andrew Johnson says much about...

2008-01-14T22:46:00.000-07:00

That quotation from Andrew Johnson says much about the early days of the Republican Party as well as the state of mind that prevails in the Grand Old Party today. I have found that one way to make onself an unpopular minority at a Republican gathering today is to speak up for the Bill of Rights. If you go "prating" about the Bill of Rights, you will be spotted as a "traitor." The only right either party will defend today is your "right to reamin silent."

Fantastic report and now that we have all read the...

2008-01-14T22:08:00.000-07:00

Fantastic report and now that we have all read the report and commented on it , we can now all turn our self in beacuse we are "Thought Criminals" Thanks to the HR 1955 George ORwell law we have.
Every one report to the govt mind reprograming centers for further instruction.

Sic Semper Tyrannis

Thanks for reminding why I'm an anarchist.

2008-01-14T17:12:00.000-07:00

Thanks for reminding why I'm an anarchist.

I live in corrupt Colorado, and this kind of thing...

2008-01-14T14:07:00.000-07:00

I live in corrupt Colorado, and this kind of thing does not surprise me. My kids were taken away from the Fremont County Nazis (DHS & Family Courts), totally based on hearsay and false allegations! This is a leftie lesbian place where the judge is immoral & the intake worker for DHS doesn't even have any children! It's already proven that social services steals children for money. Ron Paul for President!

The scary thing is that we know government compute...

2008-01-14T13:37:00.000-07:00

The scary thing is that we know government computers monitor our words and a large part of our behavior. Although perfectly legal, this can earn us an asterisk by our name in those government computers. Then a complaint by any busybody fogy can earn us a response like this family experienced.

Be a good sheep and you are safe. Be a government-designated "dissident" and you are in the East Germany of the 70's. And it will rapidly get worse.

I don't know why anyone retiring today would choose to remain in the US. I retired (early) in 2000 and despite my better judgement, stayed. Now, after some systematic harassment by the local piggies, I am getting out. But I have lost years and will lose $$$'s due to the housing collapse.

What, no mention of belonging to the Mises Institu...

2008-01-14T11:39:00.000-07:00

What, no mention of belonging to the Mises Institute or FEE, or reading LewRockwell.com? Not a very exhaustive listing of right-wing tendencies.

I was pulled over for a broken bulb on my license plate while in NH, campaigning for Ron Paul, with a Ron Paul sticker clearly displayed. Anyone who thinks the primary problem was the light please raise your hands.

([John J.] Nutter went so far as to list The Law b...

2008-01-14T11:38:00.000-07:00

([John J.] Nutter went so far as to list The Law by Frederic Bastiat -- a tract that reflects its author's comprehensively non-violent views -- as the type of literature a potential right-wing terrorist might possess. Oh, and he listed one of my books, as well.)

This I assume was the same John J. Nutter who just got popped for downloading kiddie porn on his office computer!

Milton Mayer...the opening to the book is chilling...

2008-01-14T11:29:00.000-07:00

Milton Mayer...the opening to the book is chilling to read. Here it is.

"What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise; to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if the people could not understand it, it could not be released because of national security....

"This separation of government from people, this widening of the gap, took place so gradually and so insensibly, each step disguised (perhaps not even intentionally) as a temporary emergency measure or associated with true patriotic allegiance or with real social purposes....

"To live in this process is absolutely not to be able to notice it -- please try to believe me -- unless one has a much greater degree of political awareness, acuity, than most of us had ever had occasion to develop. Each step was so small, so inconsequential, so well explained or, on occasion, ‘regretted,’ that, unless one were detached from the whole process from the beginning, unless one understood what the whole thing was in principle....one no more saw it developing from day to day than a farmer in his field sees the corn growing. One day it is over his head.

"How is this to be avoided, among ordinary men, even highly educated ordinary men? Frankly, I do not know. I do not see, even now. Many, many times since it all happened I have pondered that pair of great maxims, Principiis obsta and Finem respice -- 'Resist the beginnings' and 'Consider the end.' But one must foresee the end in order to resist, or even see, the beginnings. One must foresee the end clearly and certainly and how is this to be done, by ordinary men or even by extraordinary men? Things 'might' have. And everyone counts on that 'might.'

"Each act, each occasion, is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join with you in resisting somehow. You don’t want to act, or even talk, alone; you don't want to 'go out of your way to make trouble.' Why not? -- Well, you are not in the habit of doing it. And it is not just fear, fear of standing alone, that restrains you; it is also genuine uncertainty.

"Uncertainty is a very important factor, and, instead of decreasing as time goes on, it grows. Outside, in the streets, in the general community, 'everyone' is happy. One hears no protest, and certainly sees none....

"And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you....The world you live in -- your nation, your people -- is not the world you were born in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way."

They Thought They Were Free by Milton Mayer

My son was stolen by the government. Please pray f...

2008-01-14T10:03:00.000-07:00

My son was stolen by the government. Please pray for us. He is six years old now. I know alot about my son and of course I intend to raise him.