Comments on Pro Libertate: End the Occupation: A Mission for the Oath-Keepers

I'd trust my well being to David Alan Coe over...

2009-10-30T12:23:19.935-06:00

I'd trust my well being to David Alan Coe over Attorney Lynda Russell any day...

I tend to agree with you, Lem, and I thought it wa...

2009-10-30T01:34:01.169-06:00

I tend to agree with you, Lem, and I thought it was sad when so many people tried to “bargain” with the government – oh, just think how much tax money you’ll make if marijuana is legalized! The government could not care less about tax money from legalizing drugs, even if they made a trillion dollars from it. They would slit their wives throats and feed their children to monsters before they gave up a drop of power over us.

And here’s another thing I’m not too crazy about LEAP, Law Enforcement Against Prohibition; I notice that most of them are retired. I heard one give a speech and said he knew the 16-year-old boy handcuffed in the back of his cruiser was not a criminal. But that didn’t stop him from arresting him, did it? And my guess is he arrested these non-criminals right up until the day he retired, as most of them did.

I have a better opinion of the Oath Keepers, however. The military, at least in my day, didn’t consider the American people the “enemy,” whereas the cops hate our stinking guts. From morning until night, they are obsessed with their hatred.

I made a comment over at Antiwar.com about the DEA...

2009-10-29T21:12:34.524-06:00

I made a comment over at Antiwar.com about the DEA agents that happened to get killed along with others in a chopper crash. I was wondering if they were there to oversee the production quota.

Little People, Recite this 100 times to yourself f...

2009-10-29T03:01:30.663-06:00

Little People,
Recite this 100 times to yourself five times a day, at the Muslim times of prayer:

"NOTHING IS WHAT IT SEEMS TO BE. EVERYTHING IS A LIE."

Consider this:

(1) Heroin is refined from opium, which is the dried juice of the opium poppy.

(2) 90% of the world's opium poppies and production of opium is in Afghanistan.

(3) 90% of the heroin entering the USA comes over the border from Mexico.

(4) The heroin from Mexico originates in Colombia, where it is refined from Afghani opium.

Now, ask yourself this: How do all those tons of opium get from Afghanistan, a landlocked country surrounded by hostile Muslim states, and which is occupied by a hundred thousand US and NATO troops, all the way halfway around the world to Colombia?

By carrier pigeon?

Does the Starship Enterprise beam it up from Kabul and then down to Cartagena?

Have the Afghans taught donkeys to walk on water?

No. The opium is flown from Afghanistan in CIA aircraft to Colombia, either via Guam, or via Dakar in Senegal. A small group of powerful people are getting immensely rich from this "war on drugs," and have been doing so ever since the Vietnam War, when the opium came from Burma and the CIA's Air America flew it out of Saigon.

What you are told is bullshit, people. Everything. All of it. 100percent. Whether or not Obama sends more troops to Afghanistan does not depend on whether Pakistani nuclear weapons might fall into the hands of Taliban crazies. No, it depends on whether certain folks in the CIA can continue to run the opium trade if we should pull out. Whether your sorry ass might get fried in a nuclear blast is not a consideration. Neither is the sorry ass of Officer Friendly who acts like a Gestapo thug. All that matters is to keep the money flowing to the right people.

Mr. Grigg,
If I know these people, they are not going to come knocking and ask you who I am, as if you knew. BUT, the next time Officer Friendly pulls you over for going a half mile over the speed limit, watch your ass. He might have had the word passed down from on high (or rather, up from the depths of Hell,) that "We need to put this guy Grigg out of commission."

Remember: EVERYTHING IS A LIE. NOTHING IS WHAT IT SEEMS.

Lemuel Gulliver.

PS: Actually, that is not ALL of the story. Some of the opium also is flown in CIA planes to Kosovo, where the US and NATO also have a presence, from where it is passed to the Albanian Mafia, who refine it and ship the heroin across the Adriatic to Italy, thence the flow moves through France and Germany and finally from the German port of Kiel to Sweden and into Russia at St. Petersburg. The Russians are very pissed at the USA about their huge drug-addict problem, and would dearly love to get back into Afghanistan to take care of it at the source, but nobody is talking, least of all the media, which says only what they are told to say.

NOTHING IS WHAT IT SEEMS TO BE. EVERYTHING IS A LIE.

" Dallas County sits astride a very well-trav...

2009-10-27T19:47:38.704-06:00

" Dallas County sits astride a very well-traveled stretch of I-85, the country's major east-west interstate. "

I-80 is the country's major east-west interstate. I-85 runs north-south.

The Oath Keepers website says that they "will...

2009-10-26T22:35:55.407-06:00

The Oath Keepers website says that they "will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people..." Of course, this confiscation is already happening; it's called civil forfeiture. It thereby follows that either (1) the Oath Keepers are opposed to civil forfeiture and are CURRENTLY refusing to participate in seizures under the civil forfeiture laws, or (2) their oaths are nothing but hot air.

I'm hoping for (1), but I'm not terribly optimistic.

Quite a piece. Back in the late 90s I was a drug-...

2009-10-26T13:21:13.014-06:00

Quite a piece.

Back in the late 90s I was a drug-legalization campaigner, working actively with a few different organizations.

At that time, the forfeiture stuff was still a relatively new phenomenon, a bilious frosting on the already disgusting drug war cake. A group called Forfeiture Endangers American Rights was founded back then, and seems to be even more relevant now.

And it all seems to be going rather according to plan. Part of why I left the US 5 years ago was this sinister, growing, militarized culture of crime right at the heart of the state apparatus. And it goes on and on...

Will, This is nitpicky, but I believe you may mea...

2009-10-26T08:03:13.188-06:00

Will,

This is nitpicky, but I believe you may mean I-80. I'm not terribly familiar with Iowa, but I do know I-80 is up that direction, and I-85 runs from Montgomery, AL, to the northeast.

It is quite possible that most police officers are...

2009-10-26T07:25:23.733-06:00

It is quite possible that most police officers are honorable and uncorrupted. But if they (like most other Americans) are so brain-washed that they don't know to oppose the corruption, then their good intentions are useless.
We need to strive to inform as much as possible so that more will be won to the side of common sense and morality. Let's not make the mistake of demonizing anyone till they prove themselves to be demons.

~An Anti-Federalist

The comment I submitted last night during the wee ...

2009-10-25T15:30:45.263-06:00

The comment I submitted last night during the wee hours must have fallen into a cyberhole somewhere, but was basically just thanking you, Will, for identifying our current predicament as an occupation facilitated by the police.

I also loved your challenge to the Oath Keepers to stop enforcing the war on drugs. Brilliant!

And kudos to Sans Authoritas for his great little observation that if you feel the need to take an oath to uphold your oath, you might want to change to more honorable work!

We're not really about freedom in this country...

2009-10-25T13:13:26.696-06:00

We're not really about freedom in this country- it's just the way we try to justify our foreign policy.

During a recent installment of Chris Matthews'...

2009-10-25T12:12:36.154-06:00

During a recent installment of Chris Matthews' cable television program, Matthews and SPLC apparatchik Mark Potok did their level best to contort comments made by Oath Keepers founder Rhodes into an endorsement of insurrectionary violence.

I wasn't surprised to see this, given Matthews' penchant for full-speed-ahead blabbermouthing and his obvious statist agenda, but his insistence on turning the Oath Keepers declaration of non-participation in unlawful police actions into an immediate armed insurrection against our Dear Leaders in the Holy Government was astounding. The only positive was that I didn't see how any person with even a slight ability to think critically could not have seen through that blatant attempt to smear the group. Would Matthews accuse Gandhi of attempting to violently overthrow the occupying British government?

And that's really what bothers me I guess. All Matthews (and the rest of the State Media collaborators) has to do is create a soundbite, and it becomes common knowledge, or what some would call "the truth." The insinuation has been made--Oath Keepers are violent anti-government plotters--and so it may as well be in the minds of the media watchers.
So now refusal to do violence to undeserving people has become a violent act of treason. "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"

Will, You are right on the money with this statem...

2009-10-25T10:32:55.620-06:00

Will,

You are right on the money with this statement: "We're constantly reminded that "most" law enforcement officers are decent, public-spirited men who are disgusted and alarmed by corruption and the abuse of power. By urging that law enforcement stand down from the "war on drugs," Oath Keepers could help us learn whether this is actually the case."

Are you aware of any attempts to encourage active collaboration between these two group?

This is an issue that could unite freedom loving people at all points on the political spectrum.

It's not much, but I have posted a message on the contact pages of both organizations in hopes that if they are not already actively in collaboration they will at least consider the possibility.

Very informative post. One correction needs to be ...

2009-10-25T08:12:14.415-06:00

Very informative post. One correction needs to be made, however. Interstate 80, not 85, runs through Dallas County, Iowa.

Dale

Thank you, Will, for pointing out that the police ...

2009-10-25T00:49:27.032-06:00

Thank you, Will, for pointing out that the police here in the U.S. are already an "army of occupation", and that Oath Keepers needn't wait for martial law to be declared, but can make a difference now by opposing the 'war on drugs'.

I loved it!

Sic Semper Tyrannis! http://rustmeister.blogspot.c...

2009-10-25T00:27:22.103-06:00

Sic Semper Tyrannis!
http://rustmeister.blogspot.com/2008/04/patriot-microchip.html

During a recent installment of Chris Matthews'...

2009-10-24T21:56:53.870-06:00

During a recent installment of Chris Matthews' cable television program, Matthews and SPLC apparatchik Mark Potok did their level best to contort comments made by Oath Keepers founder Rhodes into an endorsement of insurrectionary violence.
I wasn't surprised to see this, given Matthews' penchant for full-speed-ahead blabbermouthing and his obvious statist agenda, but his insistence on turning the Oath Keepers declaration of non-participation in unlawful police actions into an immediate armed insurrection against our Dear Leaders in the Holy Government was astounding. The only positive was that I didn't see how any person with even a slight ability to think critically could not have seen through that blatant attempt to smear the group. Wold Matthews accuse Gandhi of attempting to violently overthrow the occupying British government?
And that's really what bothers me I guess. All Matthews (and the rest of the State Media collaborators) has to do is create a soundbite, and it becomes common knowledge, or what some would call "the truth." The insinuation has been made--Oath Keepers are violent anti-government plotters--and so it may as well be in the minds of the media watchers.
So now refusal to do violence to undeserving people has become a violent act of treason. "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"

The behavior of these corrupt law enforcement offi...

2009-10-24T21:00:34.732-06:00

The behavior of these corrupt law enforcement officials, including the unconstitutional DEA, draw a scary comparison to the Schutz Staffel of the 1930s...
"...maybe zoon vee vill haff a special camp for you to go to...but don' worry, zoo vill be productive memberss of society... Ja...sieg heil!" (sic)

Rereading the part about Lynda Russell, the Texas ...

2009-10-24T20:47:52.829-06:00

Rereading the part about Lynda Russell, the Texas attorney, I was stunned by her cheek! It's no different than if she seized someones auto and then petitioning to use said auto to drive herself around town and to the court while being challenged to the legality of the auto seizure! It boggles the mind just how corrupt they are. And I most certainly don't care not which party's basement they slithered out from.

It's high time, pun intended, that this evil w...

2009-10-24T20:13:54.174-06:00

It's high time, pun intended, that this evil war on drugs come to an end once and for all. It has twisted and warped the entire social landscape all to profit those who manipulate the system or are part of its grab for treasure and power. Just take a look at the Netherlands and see where they have to close prisons for lack of drug related clients. I'm all for it.

One might reasonably ask at what point does the citizenry have the right to gun down the rats who bust down their doors? The State obviously believes it is immune from any consequences while the peons must pay over and above, even to the point of spinning off this mortal coil. When those jack booted vermin fear they're going to lose all the golden goodies or even their wretched lives then I see change coming. Otherwise it'll be lip service as usual until you're either silenced, in the grave, or whichever comes first, they don't care.

Liberranter, Let's go for LIBERTY! I've ne...

2009-10-24T12:35:50.239-06:00

Liberranter, Let's go for LIBERTY!
I've never been one to do what he was told for very long.
And with the Numbers that OathKeeper's have up and coming would it be wise to push to hard?

This sterling quote in your rant from a uniformed ...

2009-10-24T12:16:04.856-06:00

This sterling quote in your rant from a uniformed tax feeder, pasted as follows, says all that need be said:

"George Bowers, the superannuated mayor of Tenaha, insists that the seizures are justified not because of a compelling law enforcement need, but because his municipal government needs the money."

This "attitude" leads to a couple questions:

why bother with the pretense and be hypocritical?

Why not just go door to door, taking what is "needed" and offing those who dare to resist?

In the end, we are treated to the fact that the primary purpose of law enforcement is money collection for the lords and masters of the universe. It just so happens that this means that we have no protection from those we anticipate will help us when needed and, furthermore, those that we expect to protect us are merely, today, another class of criminals that has arisen among us.

There is no end to the affronts to we, the people, by the armed enforcers of the state - as long as we, the people, tolerate such and refuse to remove the power from the hands of those abusing it.

With crime way down from what it was 20 years ago....

2009-10-24T10:00:46.676-06:00

With crime way down from what it was 20 years ago. Why on earth do we have three folds more cops running around.
Right now, here in the Valley that Will lives in. If some young petty crook steals a t-shirt from Walmart and doesn't have enough money on him to have paid for the t-shirt. He will be charged with felony burglary and be sent to prison, more than likely. Depending on how a pot head puts his 1 gram or 6.5 grams of pot in a container. Depends on if he/she will be charged with felony trafficking of drugs.
The core problem is the criminal justice system and government at large is the people in the system are not of the same mind set as the rest of the citizen body. They feel that they are better than the rest of us run of the mill citizens. There is no limits on the amount of taxes that government can place on its citizens to loot them. That is the key and that is what the Founders tried to do with the Constitution was to put limits on government. However lazy folks who do not wanty to work real jobs and get their hands dirty flock to the parasitic government to be at the power sources to cheat decent productive citizens out of the fruits of their labor. Giving time the goose that lays the golden eggs will be dead or will refuse to lay any more eggs. Its just a matter of time, because the parasites will never do honest work.
Frankly, we can talk and write about this issue of government abuse of its citizens. But the parasites in the system will never get it because, you can not talk sense to people who don't have any.

Omega Man: And when "they" do, the fest...

2009-10-24T08:48:12.389-06:00

Omega Man: And when "they" do, the festivities will start and the ATF and DEA will be abolished by patriot citizens carrying guns.

I have personal experience with these "forfeitures" and they were the "straw that broke the camel's back" with me. The local police along with the local FBI/DEA assH#ts, have literally stoend thousands of dollars in, not only cash, but jewelry, dvd/cd's and other personal property from my son. I will have NO PROBLEM killing these JBT bastards (and bitches) when the SHTF. I fear that day fast approaches even though I have no desire to see my country suffer the death, destruction and chaos it will bring.

Even scarier, the use of PATRIOT act to quell diss...

2009-10-24T07:56:33.165-06:00

Even scarier, the use of PATRIOT act to quell dissenters: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/10/twitter-anarchist/