Comments on Pro Libertate: In Praise of "Rogue" Cops

This isn't the only way police brutalize peopl...

2012-03-01T04:20:31.844-07:00

This isn't the only way police brutalize people. They do it for traffic stops.

I was stopped on Sunday. He ran the tags in the parking lot where I live. I didn't think anything about him being in my lot as there was an ambulance attending to one of my neighbors. I went into my house and came out about 5 minutes later and got in my car. He drove off, waited for me to exit my complex, followed me for 2 miles, pulled me over.

See, I'm a disabled 49 year old law abiding woman, I'm a detriment to society - my registration was expired. I was so nervous, I couldn't find my insurance card. So Mr. BullyInBlue issued me a ticket for my registration and said "I know your car is insured, but here is a ticket anyway. Now exit your vehicle, I'm having it impounded." Impounding my car cost $200. I have no money for the tickets so I'll probably get arrested. I have no money left for the next month for food, my doctor appointments and my meds. But because I committed such a horrible crime my township is going to be much richer. $200 for impounding my vehicle, $108 for the 2 tickets. Then the fee for getting my dogs their licenses will be doubled because I won't have the funds to pay for that either. This police officer should be commended for harassing an innocent disabled person.

There was no need for this, he saw me come back out to my vehicle, he could have ticketed me right there in the parking lot.

Now, the rash I get on my legs from a nervous condition (which was almost finally under control) has spread across my entire body, I have had nightmares every time I try to lay down to sleep.

He should be very proud of himself. When I asked why he didn't just tell me in my parking lot and did it the way he did, his response was "Because I can."

They can do whatever they want to whoever they want. I live in a crime riddled area, if all the police have time for is to harass law abiding citizens then there are too many police on the force.

The corrupt enforcement officers should be tried f...

2011-08-08T17:07:01.922-06:00

The corrupt enforcement officers should be tried for murder or man slaughter. The police are meant to protect and serve even those who under arrest. I wish the group of people would of stood up to those cops and stopped them before they killed that man. It would of been worth going to jail to save a life wouldn't it?

Anyways recording the event is just as important. The tools of recording is our defense against tyranny.

Maybe this isn't related to this latest in exc...

2011-08-08T15:03:53.778-06:00

Maybe this isn't related to this latest in excellent posts from Will, but, with the continuing economic meltdown (the recent downgrading of Amerika's credit rating), and with what might be the potential for unrest here, will we see an outright (and unconstitutional) standing military on our streets and in our neighborhoods?

Russian Village’s Self-Defense Underlines Failures...

2011-08-07T21:33:04.744-06:00

Russian Village’s Self-Defense Underlines Failures of Police

"...The underlying problem is that the security forces in Russia are structured to safeguard the social order rather than to protect and serve citizens,...

“We can find many motivated people with high skills in the Russian police,” he said, “but the system makes it difficult even for these good police officers to do their jobs well. Their main burden is to control situations and to control the people rather than to help them.”..."

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/05/world/europe/05village.html?_r=4&pagewanted=all?src=tp

Did away with the archives? Good grief! First th...

2011-08-07T13:41:27.325-06:00

Did away with the archives? Good grief! First the old show, and archives, were round filed and now this? If I didn't know better I'd swear it was another rear echelon stab in the back.

Sorry, when I wrote, "...do you suppose Chile...

2011-08-06T16:40:34.834-06:00

Sorry, when I wrote, "...do you suppose Chile is the modern day Chile?"

I meant to write, do you suppose Chile is the modern day Texas?

Or at least as close to it as one can get.

And the more I think about it, Davey Crockett said...

2011-08-06T01:28:34.457-06:00

And the more I think about it, Davey Crockett said, the heck with all this! and moved to Texas,... do you suppose Chile is the modern day Chile?

There is a passage in the Bible which Lila R. has mentioned before, something about wells being fought over and moving on to another instead of fighting over it... This thought pops up from time to time for me.

But then again, lotta good that did Davey.

Hmp, after forty plus years of American living I j...

2011-08-05T23:38:54.353-06:00

Hmp, after forty plus years of American living I just saw an old version of the film Davey Crockett for the first time.

Imho, a good approximation of today's version of Davey Crockett is Will Grigg... among a few others,... I say that because when I watched this version of Davey Crockett the Alamo looked like a little house being over-run by a SWAT team, and that's exactly what the Alamo was, a little house on the prairie, a.k.a. America.

Who among us defends the American little house these days with words or ? Their numbers are few. Of those who do defend the American little house these days they are being over-run by goberment gone wild or are threatened by Empire, an Empire no different than Santa Anna's.

The ending of the film was:

Liberty and Independence forever!

Fighting for liberty.

It seems as if those ideals are alien according to the mainstream media (and most People!) that's what I gather anyway. I wouldn't be surprised to see the nations TV news anchors call liberty and Independence criminal activity.

Don't they already do so in an offhand way?

It also seems as if most People wouldn't support the Alamo today, they'd ask why didn't the Alamo submit to the TSA grope and just obey already?

Will Grigg fights for liberty, few stand with him,... it's the Alamo all over again only this time it doesn't seem like the rest of the People stand with him or are ready to rush to support him,... or do they?

That Is the question.

In the meantime, “contempt of cop” shall continue without commercial interruption and the People go, "Rah-Rah-Rah-go-team-go!"

Anonymous @7:58 a.m. said... "Not sure what &...

2011-08-05T18:59:36.094-06:00

Anonymous @7:58 a.m. said... "Not sure what "liberranter" is snorting... but it's some hate filled stuff. Sorry that his "experience" with evangelical congregation in Amerika was so bad..."

Most American churches seem to be shrines to the Roman god Mars:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/92514.html

http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance-arch.html

Also, nice comeback, liberranter, well put.

Shy Wolf said... "...the standard they are held to is the same one we 'citizens' are held to, with exception they should be held more rigidly to its tenets, and we J&JQP should insure this..."

Ha, As If.

You're new to this blog, aren't you?

My heart aches for what happened to Kelly Thomas. ...

2011-08-05T18:35:25.677-06:00

My heart aches for what happened to Kelly Thomas. I won't write what I'm thinking about the cops.

Speaking of Kansas: Cops are whining, post sting, about their rights being violated, having to sit for hours in their uncomfy tactical get-ups and crying foul over S&S violations. I guess it's no fun for police officers to be treated almost like regular guys by other police officers.

http://www.kctv5.com/story/15213780/score-officers-fight-back

Ah, I'm a bit distracted, that link should hav...

2011-08-05T17:36:48.813-06:00

Ah, I'm a bit distracted, that link should have been:

http://www.backwoodshome.com/blogs/ClaireWolfe/2011/08/05/copitude/

I only read the first half of her post before commenting, my bad.

While reading the rest I thought I should post a link to your blog and I was (pleasantly?... Nothing pleasant about it all, but you get the drift I think) surprised to see she mentioned you.

Gosh, maybe People are starting to get the picture?

Even here too:

Do Not Pull Bogus Politically Correct Child Abuse Charges on a Public Bus

http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2011/08/do-not-pull-bogus-politically-correct.html

"Copitude" Ha, (not funny ha) a descrip...

2011-08-05T17:29:02.551-06:00

"Copitude"

Ha, (not funny ha) a description that is very, Will Grigg-ian.

http://www.backwoodshome.com/blogs/ClaireWolfe/

Anon, I'm sorry about the problem with the arc...

2011-08-05T13:30:54.979-06:00

Anon, I'm sorry about the problem with the archive. LNR decided to discontinue the archives this week, and I'm going to have to make the program available on another platform. I'll make sure to let you know when its ready. Sorry about that, my friend.

I can't find the archive of last Sunday's ...

2011-08-05T13:02:59.841-06:00

I can't find the archive of last Sunday's radio show on Liberty News Radio. Your show is the best part of my week. I share it with potential converts. I hope it isn't lost.

Media reports say that Thomas was stopped because ...

2011-08-04T12:24:10.619-06:00

Media reports say that Thomas was stopped because "police were called to a street near the Fullerton bus depot by a report that someone was burglarizing parked cars." Yet, it's very unlikely that Thomas was breaking into cars. Maybe the cops just made up the 911 burglary call to justify their targeting a homeless guy for harassment. If suit is filed, the 911 report should be subpoenaed. And if there was no actual 911 call, this will prove murder. My guess is that a pretrial settlement will be reached with the family to avoid discovery. Most citizens will simply presume the city settled because it's "only" taxpayer dollars at stake. More likely, though, the truth about the evil that is government is at stake, not just money.

I'm with Bob--it's time for the people to ...

2011-08-04T06:16:54.131-06:00

I'm with Bob--it's time for the people to take back their neighborhoods and protect themselves from the organized thugs of officialdom. We have a police problem in this country, and no governmental unit is stepping in; it's time for the people to do so in a way that makes their feelings entirely clear.

@Anon 7:58 Liberranter has a strong distrust of o...

2011-08-03T22:35:13.655-06:00

@Anon 7:58

Liberranter has a strong distrust of organized religions in general and sometimes it seems Mormons in particular. As a Mormon this used to offend me and we have had a spat or two on this page in the past. However, I am no longer offended by his comments as I have grown to understand that they are not pointed at me in particular but at the propensity for all organized religions to have an unhealthy and most un-Christlike adoration for the State. I have witnessed this among the people in my own religion and am dismayed by the religion of sheep most of us have become. I am no sheep. I have been asked if I would consider myself a III percenter. My responce is usually "no, I'm the I percent that's going to give the III percent a bad name to the enemy.

jk

Anon 7:58, I'd like to thank you for demonstra...

2011-08-03T22:29:30.569-06:00

Anon 7:58, I'd like to thank you for demonstrating, for the benefit of the readers of this blog who have never experienced it, the mentality and attitude typical of those who worship in the sanctuaries of the Great National Religion and yet still insist on calling themselves Christ followers. I never cease to be amazed and saddened, though am not at all surprised, at the complete intellectual and spiritual bankruptcy of such people, one that manifests itself most clearly in the brain-stem reaction to well-justified criticism of the perversion of Christ's message as "hatred" or "discord." But one cannot expect anything else of people who are Amerikan Nationalists first and foremost and "Christians" a very distant and grudging second...or third... or fourth...

As to your admonition that I continue to "home church," I will indeed continue to do so and to encourage others to do the same. I would consider doing nothing else, given the openly hostile attitude that is typical of you and your fellow institutional evangelicals toward those who strive to put the Word of Christ and individual liberty above the word of the temporal state. That will of course not prevent me from praying fervently that you and your fellow congregants will one day see the light and repent.

Will: I'm assuming that you're still "home churching" as well? If, since you wrote that article, you've found a congregation that actually worships the Prince of Peace, then congratulations and praise the Lord! I hope they're in the church planting business. We need that seed to spread far and wide.

From the Big Fullerton Cop... video. Costumed T...

2011-08-03T11:59:55.417-06:00

From the Big Fullerton Cop... video.

Costumed Thug [to "civillian" witnesses]: "Go home or go to jail."

Ahahahaahaha. oooooooookay, Barney Fife. Right away, sir!

This arrogant coward should have (at the very least) been immediately and loudly invited to a self-copulation session by every "civilian" within earshot. Was he? Nope.

Our ancestors would have been shooting by now.

Swiftfox comments, "...The problem is that th...

2011-08-03T11:17:41.741-06:00

Swiftfox comments, "...The problem is that there is no good standard by which police officers can be charged and prosecuted for their crimes against the people they protect..."
But that is not true... the standard they are held to is the same one we 'citizens' are held to, with exception they should be held more rigidly to its tenets, and we J&JQP should insure this. To think otherwise is to be giving them a free pass, almost as if saying, 'They are unruled,' when they are actually unruly, disobediant and recalcitrant children in dire need of a belt across their ass, not some liberal 'time out' to think about what they did.
Were this to happen to my son, I'd not hesitate to fully illustrate what rogue and renegade really mean- consequences to me be damned, let God sort out the right and wrong of it.
Sadly, this is not only becoming more common, it's going to become more common still until J&JQP bow to their knees and kiss the ring held before them or grovel at the feet.

A few years ago I described my own frustrations, a...

2011-08-03T08:33:58.197-06:00

A few years ago I described my own frustrations, and those of my family, in seeking for a congregation that worships the Prince of Peace, rather than the Regime -- http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2006/12/from-fissure-to-chasm.html

Owing to that experience I can understand Liberranter's sentiments.

Not sure what "liberranter" is snorting....

2011-08-03T07:58:42.769-06:00

Not sure what "liberranter" is snorting... but it's some hate filled stuff. Sorry that his "experience" with evangelical congregation in Amerika was so bad. I'm assuming that liberranter home-churches himself. GOOD. Stay there!

Obviously the police is a terrorist organization. ...

2011-08-03T06:57:56.019-06:00

Obviously the police is a terrorist organization. I would have no problem with applying the "Bush-Doctrine" to it's members.

I can assure you that if an act such as this is ev...

2011-08-02T23:55:47.188-06:00

I can assure you that if an act such as this is ever perpetrated on a member of my family or within my sight, I will not rest until I have hunted down every person involved and subjected them to summary execution. Only when every law enforcement officer lives each day in mortal fear will this conduct stop. It's a very simple message: behave or die.

jk

I just caught this video over on another site befo...

2011-08-02T14:23:45.950-06:00

I just caught this video over on another site before coming over here. I was just thinking to myself "You know... Will should do a piece on this horrendous act". Sure enough you have. It's criminal and the fact that the cops have "low morale", as stated above, means little to me. I suggest they resign as a decent human should. That they're suffering from low self-esteem after being outed as killers is absurd. I constantly hear the refrain "We're slipping into a police state" when in fact we've long been there. It's only to the degree in which various environs have sunk that rises to our attention.