Comments on Pro Libertate: The Verdict: Murder as an Official Entitlement

Darrow did what any good lawyer worth his salt sho...

2014-01-20T13:31:00.802-07:00

Darrow did what any good lawyer worth his salt should do and that is defend his client. One only need look at Lincoln working to return a runaway slave to his owner to understand that. Still, its quite obvious that we live in a fascist police state that has so far hypnotized the masses into believing that it, along with its ninja-clad thugs, are somehow the natural order of things. It's not!

I want to say something, but at the moment I'm...

2014-01-17T17:41:21.685-07:00

I want to say something, but at the moment I'm too disgusted with the sheep-like apathy of the Great Silent Majority that makes all this possible.

"www.felixforhouse.com said..." Pal, yo...

2014-01-17T17:13:16.591-07:00

"www.felixforhouse.com said..."

Pal, you are either mentally ill a guy who gets off on watching people get tortured and murdered. You're a pathetic and disgusting excuse for a human being.

Stand your ground makes no provisions for run out ...

2014-01-16T22:32:18.763-07:00

Stand your ground makes no provisions for run out to the car get your gun come back in rekindle the arguement and shoot 2 un armed people. Going out to his car means pre-meditated.......plain and simple.

Regarding the story of Curtis Reeves: I saw this ...

2014-01-16T12:51:12.518-07:00

Regarding the story of Curtis Reeves: I saw this story on the news and was surprised to see on the video there how he was led from the theatre by his fellow cop. He appeared handcuffed, but the one cop who was escorting him out didn't even have a hand on him! The shooter was allowed to walk freely on his own. In any other instance, there would have been at least 4 cops leading the suspect out and they would have had him bent over in a perp-walk. I guess cops (retired in this case) can get gentler treatment from their comrades even after they pull a firearm and shoot someone dead in a crowded theatre.

Oh yeah, I also heard that this retired cop has claimed he was "standing his ground". No doubt that will work for him. Since when do cops have a duty to retreat? This case will probably be used as an excuse to get rid of "stand your ground" laws for the rest of us as a result.

The officer who was fired is named Jay Cicinelli, ...

2014-01-16T01:59:44.638-07:00

The officer who was fired is named Jay Cicinelli, not Ken Cincinelli.
The other names are Manuel Ramos, Joseph Wolfe, and three more which no one has made public that I can find.

Having lived in Orange County for 11 years I had a...

2014-01-16T01:29:32.527-07:00

Having lived in Orange County for 11 years I had an ominous feeling that this would happen. Not many places on earth could field a 12 strong group that can be this brain dead to allow the cops off the hook.

Ultimately, despite the tragic events to the Thomas family, a dangerous precedent was put on trial, do the cops have the right to harass people to evoke dissent and resistance to then escalate the situation to this level. The answer to the jurors was "Sure, why not?"

Or put another way, I pray these jurors darling little pot smoking teenagers never get to lippy with the police...

FelixForHouse's said that if Thomas had not re...

2014-01-15T19:36:10.438-07:00

FelixForHouse's said that if Thomas had not resisted he would not have been killed. That may be true. However, these types don't seem to understand the concept of excessive force. The amount of force against Thomas was clearly unjustified.

If I, as a former cop, had acted like those killer-cops did, I would be ashamed of myself. In fact, they make me ashamed of ever having been a cop.

When I was a cop I accepted that it was more important for me to take some chances on getting hurt than it was to use excessive force, where a suspect could be seriously injured unnecessarily.

I think the most chilling statement I've ever ...

2014-01-15T16:01:33.251-07:00

I think the most chilling statement I've ever read was this one.. "They did what they were trained to do"

Typical bullshit. The cops literally get away with...

2014-01-15T15:32:28.579-07:00

Typical bullshit. The cops literally get away with murder. as for the post congratulating the cops are you insane. You make it sounds like Kelly was some badass professional killer he isn't he was mentally ill who should not have gotten that kind of a beating those cop should be in jail in the cells of those they ever screwed receiving beatings a plenty lets see how they like being on the receiving end.

I tell you justice does not exist anymore its now only in fiction.

2nd degree, anyone else would of gotten life for p...

2014-01-15T10:22:49.328-07:00

2nd degree, anyone else would of gotten life for pre-meditated!

“Among other lessons we’ve learned in this trial,”...

2014-01-15T07:29:29.192-07:00

“Among other lessons we’ve learned in this trial,” pontificated Judge William Froeberg just before a jury acquitted Kelly Thomas’s killers, “is that violence begets violence.”

the 'judge' forgot this: 'what goes round, comes round', which will be very well demonstrated when the reflected power of the state, wielded by such as those annotated, no longer exists.

a day of reckoning will come. the only question is WHEN?

facebook won't allow me to share this. I wonde...

2014-01-14T23:46:45.797-07:00

facebook won't allow me to share this. I wonder why?

After watching the video with audio it is clear th...

2014-01-14T23:23:58.575-07:00

After watching the video with audio it is clear these officers were exceptional in how they handled Thomas. I am not surprised by the verdict... During the entire incident Thomas continues to resist arrest with extreme force, enough to require 5 officers to gain control. The officers also present as concerned for his safety and used text book procedure. With this kind of evidence no charges should have been brought... What gets me is how anyone can watch the video and see anything other than the obvious facts: if you violently resist arrest you may die... Thomas's behavior resulted in his death not the reaction of the officers.

How exactly do you leave a movie theater to fetch ...

2014-01-14T22:31:57.683-07:00

How exactly do you leave a movie theater to fetch your gun, return and murder someone with it and get a SECOND degree murder charge? You carried a badge, you hero you.

Yeah, Judge Froeberg, violence creates more violen...

2014-01-14T20:19:13.038-07:00

Yeah, Judge Froeberg, violence creates more violence, and you are a member of the most violent institution mankind has ever created: the state. So shove your lecturing up your ass! These two cops should be spending many years in the place they fear the most; the general prison population. Unfortunately, the jurors were too cowardly to put them there. A countries citizens too afraid to hold police, politicians, etc. accountable is a police state.

Will mentioned the Leopold and Loeb case. What struck me was the similarities to lynch mobs in the old south and their ability to function without fear of conviction.