tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post5128117893636813221..comments2017-04-13T04:47:21.148-06:00Comments on Pro Libertate: Gavin Grimm's Totalitarian Fairy TaleWilliam N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-939190904856894902016-08-31T00:49:12.730-06:002016-08-31T00:49:12.730-06:00When you have to go to the bathroom, especially in...When you have to go to the bathroom, especially in an emergency, does it really matter?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-33206712515984679742016-05-08T23:56:01.486-06:002016-05-08T23:56:01.486-06:00William,
Perhaps to proper address one who is born...William,<br />Perhaps to proper address one who is born of one sex but identifies as the other sex, instead of him or her, boy or girl, man or women, it would seem that them or they would be more proper. toejamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-10661580238490952922016-04-28T12:47:28.343-06:002016-04-28T12:47:28.343-06:00Forced association has a tendency to cause problem...Forced association has a tendency to cause problems such as this. Homeschool.Edhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14658730069022837576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-56664033140618593652016-04-26T10:29:36.554-06:002016-04-26T10:29:36.554-06:00After seeing the "I Stand With Gavin" po...After seeing the "I Stand With Gavin" poster, I could not help but wonder; in the bathroom, does Gavin indeed stand?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-89235375952355946782016-04-25T16:37:43.643-06:002016-04-25T16:37:43.643-06:00I don't know the details of this specific situ...I don't know the details of this specific situation and I'm not going to spend the time to learn them but the problem is simple... manadatory attendance laws.<br /><br />If you're against manadatory attendance laws (which I know Will is) then everything else (gender, sex, Title IX, etc.) is moot.<br /><br />If you're for manadatory attendence laws then I don't feel bad for you when they work against your beliefs.<br /><br />Now for some related links...<br /><br />The idea of two sexes is simplistic and does not jive with our current knowledge of biology. See <a href="http://www.nature.com/news/sex-redefined-1.16943" rel="nofollow">this article</a> for a good summary.<br /><br />Also see <a href="http://radgeek.com/gt/2014/07/03/sex-and-not-the-natural-kind/" rel="nofollow">this summary</a> of Science Made Easy's, "What can we learn from the Tree of Sex?".<br /><br />Finally, binary gender roles tied to sex is really only a thing in Western society. Most cultures throughout history have recognized more than two genders. See <a href="http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/content/two-spirits_map-html/" rel="nofollow">examples here</a>.Jameshttp://icymi.conoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-68886036356621882082016-04-24T21:04:19.046-06:002016-04-24T21:04:19.046-06:00I think if I was a teenage girl now I would opt fo...I think if I was a teenage girl now I would opt for the gender neutral family bathrooms. My bet is they're private and lockable and nobody will be peeping in from below. I'd be thrilled for having those, personally, even if I had to claim to be gender confused to get access to them. Maybe I'll start a movement. ;-)Genevieve Hawkinshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14101297491936916957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-79131883382922625792016-04-24T12:29:41.248-06:002016-04-24T12:29:41.248-06:00Good point re:
"Grimm professes that she fee...Good point re:<br /><br />"Grimm professes that she feels psychological distress when using girl’s bathroom facilities in the presence of other biological females. The same would be true of male students compelled to share bathrooms with her. However, they belong to an unprivileged class and, therefore, their discomfort is not relevant – unless they should act on it by absenting themselves when Grimm materializes among them"<br /><br />A good satirist (I'm recently out of the business) would make a play on a 'Grim' Fairy Tale.<br /><br />As well, the point of the North's overthrow of Jefferson's vision of severe checks on central government is buried under the legacy of slavery to a point where to suggest ultimately ALL Americans lost the the Civil War is heresy but in fact we are all slaves now.<br /><br />Relevant to this is the present day smears on the anti-Federalist founders coming from the left are more than shameless, they are criminal and treasonous but the First Amendment has shielded political lies in such a way as to turn the intent of our founders on its head; little different to the 'no religious test' clause of our constitution protects those of the hyper-religious right, e.g. Doug Coe and his Senate disciples, includes Charles Grassly and Hillary Clinton (a closet neocon) who seek to overthrow the secular nature of our republic. <br /><br />For more on how our republic is undermined by, and within, the left, to pervert that very same left in its understanding of our history, use google search "The Left's Anti-Federalist Urban Legend"<br /><br />Ps, as a left of center libertarian, I do fine with some conservatives on some issues ;)Ronald Thomas Westhttps://ronaldthomaswest.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-78424083989797387922016-04-22T23:19:27.870-06:002016-04-22T23:19:27.870-06:00Additionally Foucault asserted that there is no &#...Additionally Foucault asserted that there is no 'science of sexuality'. There are not hidden secrets of sex patiently waiting to be exhumed and brought into the light of day by intrepid sex researchers. To the contrary sexuality is best understood as a political strategy which can only be deployed rather than a science in pursuit of sexual truths. Fifty years ago that deployment meant sexual 'deviants' [ as defined by government especially gays ] faced the constant threat of assault, kidnapping, and incarceration at the hands of governments armed agents and governments judiciary. But such deployment of political power is always being contested, always up for grabs. Competing groups plot to seize such political power, often the very groups against whom such political power is initially deployed, and often with the purpose of redeploying it against those initially wielding it. That is more or less the current state of things with the discourse of politico-denormative-sexuality. In sexuality's current deployment those most at risk appear to be the normative majority attempting to resist 'denormitization.' <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-65789940694431912222016-04-22T11:54:10.976-06:002016-04-22T11:54:10.976-06:00the state, as presently constructed, is of such im...the state, as presently constructed, is of such immense power that it can change the biological determinant of an individual and punish those who refuse to accept the aberration as reality. while difficult to believe, much less accept, such is the reality of the modern amerikan state and the power accumulated to that state and its functionaries over decades of judicial activism and a supine, somnolent 'citizenry'. in essence, a coup against the American people is complete.<br /><br />while the above is in play and very detrimental to we, the people, and our freedoms, history informs those of us who bother to inform ourselves that institutionalized evil, oppression and tyranny do not last, being ultimately exhausted by attempts to maintain that which is evil, oppressive and tyrannical. the current 'govt' under which we all find ourselves is no different, save possibly in the degree of arrogant ignorance exuded by 'leaders' and, in far too many cases, 'citizens'.<br /><br />each day brings more debt, less people believing in 'the system', mounting numbers of self - inflicted enemies and a professional political class whose only interest is the continued division of all for the purposes of conquest by division and ruling according to whim, laws and common sense be damned. as such, our position as free citizens deteriorates daily while we are bombarded with the idea that this is the 'land of the free'.<br /><br />history is revealing, informative and educational, unless rewritten, of course. true history reveals such an abomination that has sprung up among us will not last. oh, it may last for an individual's lifetime, but, in the end, all such abominations do fall, die and are relegated to the long list of 'experiments' by arrogant ignoramuses who knew they could do it differently than all before them.<br /><br />what to do? <br /><br />1) sit back and watch history unfold with respect to the death of empires and know the day of deliverance is much closer. and <br /><br />2) understand that, should this abomination extend to the end of one's own life, the oppressive entity will never, ever last.kirknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-68719912777848510062016-04-22T01:07:48.816-06:002016-04-22T01:07:48.816-06:00Before addressing your studiously false analogy, i...Before addressing your studiously false analogy, it's useful to deal with the right of free association. <br /><br />Jim Crow-era racial segregation was government intervention to prevent free association and commerce among people of different ethnic backgrounds. People who self-segregate without imposing that arrangement on others do no injury to anybody but themselves. <i>Compelling</i> people to segregate, or to integrate, is tyranny. <br /><br />The attempted analogy between the "gender revolution" and the effort to end racial segregation involves an obvious category error: Forbidding a black woman to use a "whites only" women's lavatory is a different proposition than requiring her to use the facility appropriate to the biological identity she shares with women of other ethnic backgrounds. By adverting to racial segregation you're changing the subject.<br /><br />From the civil rights perspective, the trait at issue -- ethnic background -- is not supposed to matter. You appear to believe, or are at least pretending to believe, that biological sex is a similarly inconsequential trait. You are entirely free to act on that assumption where your own property is concerned. It is not your privilege, or that of Gavin Grimm, to compel others who do not share that belief to act as if we did. <br /><br />William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-83994561173288255562016-04-22T00:38:44.006-06:002016-04-22T00:38:44.006-06:00What of the "good ol' days" of segre...What of the "good ol' days" of segregation? That Black folks had access to various amenities and services except that they couldn't share the same amenities White folks used. It be argued segregation didn't necessarily deprive them of anything basic per se hence desegregation was government totalitarianism.Gilnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-55354299529304570612016-04-21T22:57:51.268-06:002016-04-21T22:57:51.268-06:00In 1976 the great Michel Foucault wrote a revelato...In 1976 the great Michel Foucault wrote a revelatory book called 'The History of Sexuality'. It's one of the most enlightening books ever written. Foucault points out that the notion that sexual identity constitutes one's fundamental identity is of very recent origins. Foucault rejects psychiatry's claim that this 'sexuality' was repressed during the Victorian age reinterpreting such claim essentially as a power grab on the part of psychiatry in order to allow psychiatry to make itself appear indispensable in facilitating the exhumation and rehabilitation of this supposed long repressed sexuality. At the same time there has been in the West the steady advancement of the notion of individual rights. The political field has come to be dominated by rights based discourses such as religious rights, civil rights, ethnic rights, race rights and so on. The present situation is one of in which psychiatry's strategy of recentering sexuality as ones fundamental yet repressed identity has become tangled up with the political ideology of rights. Foucault suggests that the psychiatrized politicized sexuality of the modern West has been a kind of trap rather than a process of liberation. It has mandated the acceptance of sexual identity as fundamental identity. It has led down a militant blind alley inciting petty conflicts such as the present restroom controversies. In contrast to this can be found completely different discourses in which sex is understood to be no more than a type of and occasion for pleasure. The militancy of Western sexuality is not to be found in the historical discourses on sex of the East. Militancy is displaced by mysticism, and only because shrouding the subject of sex in mystery Eastern philosophers believed, served to make the individual more susceptible to sexual pleasure and at the same time to intensify his experience of such pleasure. Finally, this turning point in the West occurred late in the 19th Century. People up to that time viewed Oscar Wilde fundamentally as a great writer who happened to be gay. Today people view Wilde as a great gay who happened to be a writer. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-17123283750261264492016-04-21T12:33:22.339-06:002016-04-21T12:33:22.339-06:00To me the matter comes down to what you refer to a...To me the matter comes down to what you refer to as "basic matters of biology." However, I think your thoughts reflect prejudice rather than what biology actually demonstrates about gender and sex.Oscarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16316320175073629914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-52473975419769152922016-04-21T07:25:19.425-06:002016-04-21T07:25:19.425-06:00Once again we see that things like this are only a...Once again we see that things like this are only an "issue" in government's kinderprisons or other theft-funded facilities.Kent McManigalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05005964583189815410noreply@blogger.com