Comments on Pro Libertate: Santorum: State Murder as a "Moral Enterprise"

I'm late to the party here, but my observation...

2012-02-16T18:24:56.660-07:00

I'm late to the party here, but my observation on Gingrich is that someone had to assume the mantle of National Dissipate once the Tumor Named Mary Jo finished devouring Ted Kennedy's brain. Who better to inherit that title than this quintessential jester? The crocodile tears over "Mom" from someone who once delivered divorce papers to his wife while she was hospitalized with a life-threatening illness had me howling with laughter. As a voluntaryist/agorist I have foresworn the vice of voting, and I heartily revile the current Potus. But if Gingrich was the GOP nominee, I swear that I'd have to consider voting against him. Hopefully that destructive impulse would not get past the thinking stage, and fortunately, it appears that Gingrich may be too much for even the sheeple to swallow.

Will, you wrote Santorum and Gingrich share a tota...

2012-01-27T16:11:44.108-07:00

Will, you wrote Santorum and Gingrich share a totalitarian worldview: They assume that while nobody is virtuous enough to govern himself, they belong to a consecrated caste that is holy enough to rule over others.

Where does that come from? What makes some people that way? During the illegal Constitutional Convention, Hamilton said, “All communities divide themselves into the few and the many. The first are the rich and well-born, the other the mass of the people…The people are turbulent and changing; they seldom judge or determine right. Give, therefore, to the first class a distinct, permanent share in the government. They will check the unsteadiness of the second… Their turbulent and uncontrolling disposition requires checks.”

Hamilton was neither rich nor well–born, so how did he get in that class? Jefferson wrote that governments are instituted to protect our God-given “inalienable” rights, and Hamilton wrote that government is instituted because men will not conform to the dictates of reason and justice, without constraint. Did neither of them notice the elephant in the living room? Did they not notice that there were already governments in every state? And why were these God–given inalienable rights not discovered until the 13th century? And why can't I find them in the Bible? Rights really just make up the Golden Rule, don’t they?

Santorum also said: Ron Paul has a libertarian view of the Constitution. I do not. The Constitution has to be read in the context of another founding document, and that’s the Declaration of Independence. Our country never was a libertarian idea of radical individualism. We have certain values and principles that are embodied in our country. We have God-given rights.

He’s so stupid. The word “values” (as in “family values”) was not mentioned in the Constitution, the DOI, or the 85 Federalist papers, unless it was used as the value of silver or something. From Washington’s to Cleveland’s Inaugural addresses, 1789 to 1893, the word“values” are never mentioned. From McKinley’s to Bush’s Inaugural addresses, 1897 to 2004, the word“values” is mentioned 14 times, probably in its current meaning of “We have values which change daily.”

I’ve noticed in the Inaugural addresses that Washington and Adams did nothing much more than tell us what to do and what not to do. From GW’s Farewell Address: RESPECT for its [ the Constitution] AUTHORITY, COMPLIANCE with its Laws, ACQUIESCENCE in its measures, are DUTIES enjoined by the fundamental maxims of true Liberty… But the Constitution which at any time exists, ’till changed by an explicit and authentic act of the whole People, is SACREDLY OBLIGATORY upon all. The very idea of the power and the right of the People to establish Government presupposes the DUTY of every individual to OBEY the established Government.

Thanks, Will Grigg, for making me hold my breath! ...

2012-01-26T19:29:09.596-07:00

Thanks, Will Grigg, for making me hold my breath!

We are evolving though, right?

Many thank yous for always teaching me a new word or two :).
Excellent marvelous breathtaking work.

Heil, Rick!

2012-01-26T15:19:21.196-07:00

Heil, Rick!

Excellent analysis as always, Grigg. The Maistre r...

2012-01-25T08:07:40.276-07:00

Excellent analysis as always, Grigg.
The Maistre reference was particularity enlightening in boiling down the essence of the State methods.

Sadly, we live in a historical vacuum. Newt, Santorum, and the rest of the neo-cons and libs think they are either being original and innovative, or following a tried and true pattern based on a false cinematic John Wayne USA ethos that does not exist in reality. But as Solomon said, there is nothing new under the sun, and they are merely repeating the same errors that have brought other nations down.

his name is Rick Sanitarium.

2012-01-25T03:28:10.162-07:00

his name is Rick Sanitarium.

Thanks for keepin it real for us regarding the ido...

2012-01-22T14:52:02.382-07:00

Thanks for keepin it real for us regarding the idolatry of state worship vs. the empowerment message of Ron Paul. Santorum lied about Ron Paul, who has always said our rights come from our Creator. There is an article on Infowars.com about Santorum that I recommend which will show how he treats veterans - ripped off for his church's designs on their land.

Matthew 7:22-24 King James Version (KJV) 22Many w...

2012-01-22T05:54:04.773-07:00

Matthew 7:22-24
King James Version (KJV)
22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

I wonder if Rick Santorum supports Eugenics.

2012-01-22T00:00:17.538-07:00

I wonder if Rick Santorum supports Eugenics.

Well, it would appear that the Pilsbury Doughboys ...

2012-01-21T18:33:09.180-07:00

Well, it would appear that the Pilsbury Doughboys evil twin has "captured" the South Carolina primary. What happened to Mitt? The Sanctimonious one? The sad thing is that Dr. Paul had to share the stage with these warmongering snakes and their moronic enablers. I so despise the idiots who voted the way they did for their stupidity and for all the so-called Christians who swallow their lying bilge. They should know better and I'm tired of hearing their excuses.

John Regan, Your statement reminds me of what Ma...

2012-01-21T15:15:02.019-07:00

John Regan,

Your statement reminds me of what Malcolm Reynolds said concerning the State in the very movie that Mr. Grigg cited, Serenity. "Sure as I know anything, I know this - they will try again. Maybe on another world, maybe on this very ground swept clean. A year from now, ten? They'll swing back to the belief that they can make people . . . better. And I do not hold to that."

Really good read, Mr. Grigg. I wonder when, if ev...

2012-01-20T18:09:27.347-07:00

Really good read, Mr. Grigg. I wonder when, if ever, we can finally repudiate the idea that the way to establish justice in the world is to do murder and bend people to our will.

Another Yankee Puritan who is going to force me to...

2012-01-20T14:46:47.584-07:00

Another Yankee Puritan who is going to force me to bend the knee for my own good.
God help us.

Sanctimonious Santorum? The man is clearly anothe...

2012-01-19T12:17:10.421-07:00

Sanctimonious Santorum? The man is clearly another goose-stepping fascist who liberally uses religion and the state to crush dissent. The man is yet another Trojan horse of deceit. And what gets me is that too many Americans are too stupid to think outside of the box. Their moral blinkers are kept very narrow to purposely lead them by the nose. That Christians pretend to follow the Prince of Peace and yet bellow for yet another King Saul is proof they are not what they claim to be and are in fact hypocritical tares amongst the wheat.

"According to Newt Gingrich...it is 'irra...

2012-01-19T11:56:13.762-07:00

"According to Newt Gingrich...it is 'irrational' of Paul to insist that there are limits on the government’s powers of discretionary killing."

Actually, if you think about it, Gingrich is right. It is irrational to imagine the state will not kill. Certainly it is better to have decent people running it, than vile scum like Gingrich and Santorum, but all we'd get from Paul being in charge is a temporary reprieve. The state by its very nature is evil, and the sooner we recognize that fact, the better.

These are the kinds of people (Newt Gingrich, Rick...

2012-01-19T10:24:07.484-07:00

These are the kinds of people (Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum) the Rush Limbaughs and Mark Levins of the world would like to see in power. Guys like Rush and Mark thrash the one true conservative in the race (Ron Paul) as if he were an illegal alien.

Santorum Muerta? cheers

2012-01-19T04:57:37.752-07:00

Santorum Muerta?

cheers

Thanks Will for yet another biting expose of the w...

2012-01-18T21:27:38.246-07:00

Thanks Will for yet another biting expose of the warmonger Sanitarium...with your slice and dice verbiage...always a pleasure to read your writing...

Thanks!

PS my moms family is from Calabreze...she is a Verdicchio....vast landowners/famous vinters for hundreds of years....so....ama notta very ahappy witha Senor Sweaterman and his emulation of his parents dialectical "opposite" Mussolini..

I have a little scheme to shake up the worshipers ...

2012-01-18T21:15:10.091-07:00

I have a little scheme to shake up the worshipers of these murderers: link

Another excellent article. One word Psychopathy ...

2012-01-18T19:50:48.094-07:00

Another excellent article.

One word

Psychopathy

See how many traits they display:

"What "Psychopath" Means
It is not quite what you may think", By Scott O. Lilienfeld and Hal Arkowitz, November 28, 2007

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=what-psychopath-means

"THE PSYCHOPATH - The Mask of Sanity"

http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/psychopath.htm

This isn't an election campaign, this is "Psychopaths On Parade"

Worse, the numbers of people (majority of us) who continue to allow these kinds to get away with their psychopathic behavior and actions.

Megalomaniacs, pathological liars, similar are also appropriate descriptions of the characters of these people.

Time to end this nightmare and put these kinds where they belong - the looney bin.