Comments on Pro Libertate: The New Conservatism: Chekists and Collaborators

Dixie, I've noticed, and for quite a long time no...

2007-03-15T09:01:00.000-06:00

Dixie, I've noticed, and for quite a long time now, that when the civil "authorities" push more "laws" that inevitably people are forcibly pushed through the cracks and are then held up as examples of where the law "worked".

Thereafter they use these sad excuses as examples to further increase the number of laws and "enforcement" in order to tighten their grip and legitimize themselves. How else can they justify their very existence unless fresh devils du-jour are concocted, or seeminly discovered "under our noses".

Like a nation-sized python that coils itself around its victims, who with every attempt to breath and get some relief, finds the beast squeezing them ever tighter.

In order to distract the doomed from their impending destruction, ever more brazen and continuous "stimulation" of the entertainment centers of the collective brain are devised. People are being conditioned to accept the unacceptable.

God help us all.

My mind sees virtually the scenario you imagine, D...

2007-03-14T18:31:00.000-06:00

My mind sees virtually the scenario you imagine, DrFix. I really couldn't agree more with your 6:29 PM post.

There's so much deception among the ranks, not just saturating the blatantly ignorant class, as one would expect (yawn!), but also among otherwise level-headed traditionalist-minded folk, the constitutionalists, and the self-proclaimed Christian folk (sigh…). This is why I say America today is no doubt demonstrably a farrago of people who no longer sing the same song and no longer read from the same sheet of music. Whether it’s because of the mass of illegal aliens swarmin’ in continually forming a separate culture and society and not assimilating, or the homegrown society itself simply succumbing to the continual depravity and statist messages disseminated via the mass entertainment media culture, or a combination of the two, matters not at this point. The point is that it is the current reality in America.

How are such incompatible, divisive, and in some cases incendiary, ingredients supposed to mix together voluntarily to form a peaceful societal stew, calling itself a nation, in the cultural cauldron? LOL, the simple answer is it can’t! Why is this so difficult to grasp? The only feasible way to hold such a fiery D-I-V-E-R-S-E glob of humanity together in a pseudo-peaceful state is only by force applied by the state. Hence, that’s exactly why we’re witnessing the total state coming to fruition so quickly. The more multicultural and diverse the society becomes, the more forceful the state becomes as a consequence.

Will, I share your concern about the police state ...

2007-03-12T08:02:00.000-06:00

Will, I share your concern about the police state being enacted in our country under the guise of safety and security. I have a sincere question though. How do you think we should handle the serious problem with illegal immigration? It has been my belief that we needed to stop the free handouts such as free education, free medical care and penalize the employers that hire them. I know we don't want a national ID card and being forced to present a SS card is not the answer, so how do we determine who are the illegal aliens? Also, from reading what you have written, I see your concern in beefing up border security. What I don't understand is what your solution is for stopping the invasion.

I have always valued your viewpoint, Will and would much appreciate your thoughts on this.

This is a tad off topic but reading all of this, a...

2007-03-11T12:46:00.000-06:00

This is a tad off topic but reading all of this, and Wills use of the word Chekist, reminded me of a Russian film by that very name. In it you watch as someone brutally murders countless people in the name of the revolution (its extremely graphic and not one for the kiddies) that in the end it appears madness has taken him over and the same is dealt to him. Such lunacy seems to pervade the "live by the sword, die by the sword" mentality of our overlords.

Its nice to read you blog again. As a regular visi...

2007-03-09T16:44:00.000-07:00

Its nice to read you blog again. As a regular visitor to the JBS website, I used to look forward to reading your witty and insightful articles. When they suddenly ceased, I was rather disappointed.
Never the less, your blog has been found and continues to be enjoyed.
Keep up the good work

I heard or read something the other day about a Ro...

2007-03-08T23:36:00.000-07:00

I heard or read something the other day about a Ron Paul/Tom Tancredo ticket. I didn't realize at the time how much of a police statist Mr. Tancredo is. Ron Paul probably would want nothing to do with him; nor would I, being that he voted to take away so many freedoms.

Thanks for the information!

http://thinking-mama.blogspot.com/

All constitutions are doomed to failure. It is in...

2007-03-08T19:29:00.000-07:00

All constitutions are doomed to failure. It is inevitable. To cling to the illusion that what once was America, over two centuries ago, could or should be resurrected, in light of an incredibly ignorant polity, is the height of wishful thinking.

I'm constantly amazed at the "true believers" within what is the so-called "conservative" ranks. They'll trot out the Constitution from time to time like Lenins corpse, leaping and shouting maniacly about its glass coffin, waving in foam flecked fury the snakes of righteous indignation! Screeching...nay...commanding that it rise up and walk!

"DeMille, paging Mr. DeMille...."

Every day I'm becoming more aware of the information fussilade thats fired mercilessly at people day in and day out via radio, TV, schools... you name it. The deception is incredible and yet the deceived beg for more!

I don't say this out of defeatism because I have great faith in where I'm being led. One can certainly point out that the bridge is out, the train is going over the abyss and honestly not take any pleasure in the resulting death and destruction.

Will,Good grief, I was only aware of Tancredo's vo...

2007-03-08T17:32:00.000-07:00

Will,

Good grief, I was only aware of Tancredo's vote for renewal of the Patriot Act -- and you didn't even bother to mention that one.

I'm not ready to say that it is impossible to have a secure border and yet maintain civil liberities.
If government is to have any role in human society, surely its most legitimate role is in maintaining secure borders.

The biggest problem is the determined cadre of elites who will co-opt any legitimate concern in order to advance their one-world agenda. If more good-hearted American's would be taught to recognize this reality, they would be more cautious on what solutions they support. Hence, the value of a conspiratorial worldview.

The deception involved in the immigration issue became extremely apparent to me during the House debate last October over the construction of a real physical fence on the Mexican border. While posturing for the public that they were finally going to build a real fence, our Congress critters quickly passed another law allowing the president to use the funds to build a "virtual fence" instead of a real fence if he wanted to.

Of course a virtual wall is much more compatible with the unimpeded movement of goods, services, AND people across the border. It can be shut down with a flip of a switch, and it can be integrated into a national or regional ID (such as created by the REAL ID act).

Our elites would rather have open borders and spy on everyone (while shredding the Bill of Rights), rather than to control the border and conduct focused investigation of potential crime.

But secure borders still doesn't address the millions of illegals already here. In light of the police-state implications of the solutions proposed thus far, I don't know what solution is best.

Thanks for exposing Tancredo as the one-issue poli...

2007-03-08T07:38:00.000-07:00

Thanks for exposing Tancredo as the one-issue politician he is. Aside from the immigration, he is just as bad as the rest of them -- other than Ron Paul, of course.

Who knows, if trends continue, perhaps job applica...

2007-03-07T21:38:00.000-07:00

Who knows, if trends continue, perhaps job applicants will be required to provide a valid Social Security number as a prerequisite for employment!

But only if you're an American citizen. If you're an illegal immigrant, we don't need no stinkin' employment history and personal references -- just come on in and start working.

And don't worry about that W-2 form -- taxes are for pathetic citizen-chumps, not foreign royalty like you!

It is irrational to believe that the same Leviatha...

2007-03-07T19:38:00.000-07:00

It is irrational to believe that the same Leviathan state that waging war on liberty both at home and abroad can be trusted to use these expanded powers only for the purpose of securing our borders.

Border-control and forming a "police state" are not mutually inclusive as you seem to imply. IOW, border-control can be accomplished without having a police state, but a police state will have a controlled border. Yes, and the point is...what? In a police state, there's almost zero crime (other than State thugs themselves) as well, but that doesn't mean the police can't adequately fight crime in a free society.

Let’s be frank, Will, instead of beatin’ ‘round the bush. America is a hopeless farrago and cannot function as an independent society under the Constitution as it was originally written. Ergo, it’s irrational to believe that that same Leviathan state you mention can be trusted with anything since that same Leviathan is composed of people within this farrago of peoples who obviously no longer operate from the same sheet of music (constitution, founding principles) we once did.

Hopeless...it cannot work without the total state forcing it to work.

The fact is that somebody’s, or some collective group’s (society’s) worldview and cultural makeup stems from their respective, collective view on law, liberty (if that’s even an ingredient in the given culture and worldview in question), and most everything else. Germans in Germany are in essence collectively the same ethically, culturally, and with respect to their laws and customs. And the society itself will be run by the collective’s majority worldview. If our own collective societal worldview was today strictly based on the Constitution and the Founding principles aggregately, then great! That was the collective majority’s view of a young America in the distant past. If not, then we become an “auto-democracy” by default and the majority view will define the laws and the culture, irrespective of the Constitution or Christianity or….

It doesn’t matter how the collective’s view came to be what it is (deception from media marionettes, statists, et al), just that it is! Besides, people who were adequate to self-govern would discern deception from the media, statists, or others we tend to blame or scapegoat for our continued journey towards totalitarianism in the first place.

What is really painful about this particular example is that we still have a chance (an infinitesimal one, to be sure) to abort the creation of an American Reich before it comes to term, and the only alternative to outright servitude would be a gallant but doomed recourse to arms.

Forget it. As you clearly point out yet apparently think could actually happen at all, whether doomed or not, is what’s amusing. The society is collectively too steeped in dependency to ever rise up in arms against Leviathan in the first place. People cannot see or discern servitude, unless it's literal - they are literally shackled and bull-whipped. That's never going to happen. Europe's socialist statism is beyond ours and its folk do not think themselves living in servitude.

The point is that they acquiesce themselves to servitude! Is that not obvious by now, Will?

My question for your JBS friend is, why can't we f...

2007-03-07T17:47:00.000-07:00

My question for your JBS friend is, why can't we fight the NAU and fight the Police State at the same time?

In principle I don't have a problem with increased border control. But a non-interventionist foreign policy, ending the War on Drugs (thus removing a source of government corruption south of the border), ending the welfare state, and greater economic freedom will be more effective in keeping America secure while enjoying the benefits of productive immigrants.