Comments on Pro Libertate: The Thin Blue Whine, Pt. III: Who Mourns the Murdered Mundanes? (Update)

I'm speechless at your well written commentary...

2010-01-30T07:53:41.097-07:00

I'm speechless at your well written commentary. So much to think about. Now I have to make the decision to either think about it or pretend it does not exist until it finally kills me or someone I love.........After all, I'm only a mundane

Check out this video which backs up ALL of your ar...

2009-12-29T23:35:19.285-07:00

Check out this video which backs up ALL of your articles about talking to the police:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8167533318153586646&hl=en#

Many years ago the police in my hometown went on s...

2009-12-26T12:55:28.881-07:00

Many years ago the police in my hometown went on strike. The city was expected to be burned to the ground within 24 hours Guess what! Crime plummeted. I suppose petty crime wasn't reported (I often wonder why it is anyway). What I found really interesting was the increase in safe driving when I was out on the streets. Speeding decreased, turn signals were on, etc. I can only mark this up to people feeling they needed to be responsible for their driving since the cops weren't monitoring. If that makes sense.

It's long been my contention that the police, outside of their usual flaws, which you so aptly point out here repeatedly, are used to settle petty arguments and complaints by the public

I've spent quite a bit of time in St. Petersburg, Russia. One night I attended a very raucous past-midnight party that was surely bothering residents of the building. I remarked that back home the cops would have been called by then. My remark was met with astonishment "But why would anybody call the police?" While I understand Russians, unlike USians. do not consider the police their friend, this response made perfect sense. If the neighbors didn't like the noise, they'd come over and let you know. Why is it the business of the police and the state?

Another time, during the White Nights, I was at the night disco on the beach by the Peter and Paul Fortress. Around 4 AM some of my friends decided to climb up one of the buildings. There were signs that said, "Do Not Enter", which of course were ignored. Hmm, OK. I went with them. We got a nice view of the city. Everyone behaved. I made a remark that back home similar activity would have been met with helicopters and the SWAT team. Again, they were astonished.

As a sidenote, a well-traveled friend from Amsterdam spent a couple weeks with me a few years ago and told me she was never so glad to get out of a place in her life She considered the US a police state.

Good thoughts to you, your family and your brother.

I am really griped by the naming of streets and hi...

2009-12-26T03:53:02.664-07:00

I am really griped by the naming of streets and highways after State Highway Patrol officers. I have to drive on one frequently. Same with naming buildings after politicians. Isn't bad enough the swine have lived off us all their lives but then they get entire buildings named after themselves.

I've enjoyed your articles since I woke up to ...

2009-12-24T08:44:21.476-07:00

I've enjoyed your articles since I woke up to the current reality of the Land of the Free--your words and those of your fellow authors helped me leave my federal job and start a productive life of my own. Thank you, Mr. Grigg, for this and all of your excellent articles. They help more than you may know. I wish you the best in your trying times, and hope that you have a Merry Christmas in spite of the health concerns. My thoughts will be with you and your family.

Great article Mr.Grigg, and I want to assure you t...

2009-12-24T01:41:46.938-07:00

Great article Mr.Grigg, and I want to assure you that your brother shall be in our family prayers.

The odd thing is that I just read an article of this same type earlier tonight and had the exact sentiment as yourself in response to the lamentations over the 47 officer deaths..."What about the civilian deaths at the hands of police?" was my knee jerk reaction.

Well, just like how the Iraqi deathtoll never appears side by side with the death of American forces so the number of mundane deaths by police in America is unreported.

Furthermore,I would be willing to bet that 9 out of 10 of the police deaths were caused during police induced violence no doubt in relation to the "war on drugs". Probably only 1 out of 10 had to do with a guy just shooting for getting fulled over for speeding.

I searched the web for around 15 minutes just trying to find the number of civilian deaths by police, not just for 2009 but any year...the best I found was an estimate of 200 in 2006.

I think it is safe to say that even that estimate is probably a tad low.

Merry Christmas, and God bless you William.

Will, we will be praying for your brother's re...

2009-12-23T13:28:24.255-07:00

Will, we will be praying for your brother's recovery and watching your blog for updates. It's never easy having a loved one so seriously ill, but especially difficult when your children must be so distraught over their dear uncle's condition.

May God comfort your family as you gather together to watch over your loved one and to give thanks for the birth of Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

Thanks for another great piece, Will. When are fol...

2009-12-23T10:49:30.599-07:00

Thanks for another great piece, Will. When are folk going to understand that cops are not obligated to "protect and serve" the mere peons, mundanes, commoners, et al?

Cops Aren't Required to Protect
Police Have No Duty To Protect Individuals

There's plenty of court cases that have stated this truth repeatedly, yet so many are clueless. Even though this video was probably recorded in the 80s, I nevertheless think Yuri Bezmenov had it right in one aspect of demoralization when he stated that there's a point - after enough time has transpired and attendant indoctrination has been inculcated - where even when the absolute truth, and literal proof thereof, is right in front of one's face, they will not, or cannot, acknowledge it.

The human condition...sigh.

I'm sorry to read about your brother being in such dire condition. As another mentioned above, you seem to have been experiencing Job-ian trials in the past year or so.

I greatly admire folk who manage to not fold up, give up, and/or crack up during their walk in the dark valley. Those kind of folk are an inspiration and the very ones whom I strive to emulate with Christ's guiding light, of course. I'll pray for your brother to be healed, Lord willin'.

Lastly, since I likely won't be back by here until afterward, I sincerely hope you and yours have a Merry Christmas. May Our Lord also Bless you and yours during these trying times.

I will be praying for your brother!

2009-12-23T05:16:13.236-07:00

I will be praying for your brother!

2009-12-23T05:15:44.567-07:00

I will be praying for your brother!

Our police overseers who call for special punishme...

2009-12-22T15:10:21.535-07:00

Our police overseers who call for special punishment for the hoi polloi who harms an "only one" see themselves a uber-human.

They act in these instances as if they are truly there "to protect and serve." They all know better, and so should we. They are there to protect the interests of the government.

If they fail to respond to a 911 call, and someone is killed or injured as a result, you have no recourse against them. They can even respond to a 911 call and just watch you being beaten or killed - they have no compelled legal duty to protect you. They carry guns to protect themselves.

If you think they care a whit about mere citizens, check out some comments on police blogs.

On the question of "Who Mourns the Murdered M...

2009-12-22T14:21:42.677-07:00

On the question of "Who Mourns the Murdered Mundanes?"

This link is interesting..

http://www.ktvb.com/news/Officers-home-sprayed-with-bullets-no-one-injured-79832692.html

Apparently someone shot at an officers house.
This portion of the article is quite telling.

Gooding Police Chief Jeff Perry says,
"We take any shooting in the city seriously, but with it being a law enforcement officer's home, that ups the ante"

This is an out of context quote, but very clear in it's meaning.

Many thanks for keeping us informed about the fate...

2009-12-22T11:26:39.222-07:00

Many thanks for keeping us informed about the fate of our country in the midst of all your personal crises. You are in prayer, brother.

In Christ alone.

You lay it out like no one can Will. We are dealin...

2009-12-22T10:43:30.092-07:00

You lay it out like no one can Will. We are dealing with a very serious situation in this country. We have an incredibly malevolent, predatory government and millions of people who want to feel that they're part of the system that preys on them. I think it makes them feel like they have power over it.

Will You truly are experiencing what the Reformers...

2009-12-22T07:15:24.925-07:00

Will
You truly are experiencing what the Reformers, in years past, would call " a dark night of the soul". The Lord has really seen fit to test you with Job like afflictions. My prayer will be that God may strengthen you emotionally and spiritually through these times and if it is in His will that your brother might be healed.
In Christ,
Stuart

I think our communities were safer with these 20,0...

2009-12-21T18:26:26.976-07:00

I think our communities were safer with these 20,0000 gone. Tacoma well that is another story.

Rick made a very astute observation that with 20,0...

2009-12-21T18:09:39.711-07:00

Rick made a very astute observation that with 20,000 plus gestapo occupied as such the world didn't spin out of its orbit nor set chaos loose in the streets. Hmmmm... And, as others have noticed before, it makes you wonder if they were on the clock? And if not then were relief officers called in to take their place? Who paid for the dome? That stuff isn't free for the "mundanes". And I gather the numbers of abused and murdered commoners is on the order of many more than those blue bedecked storm troopers. Where indeed are the ceremonies for the tasered "dead"? Who will roll call their names year after year?

The answer to the question of how many of the offi...

2009-12-21T15:25:52.151-07:00

The answer to the question of how many of the officers attending the funeral did so on the taxpayers' dime is all of them. Such a junket for those selected to attend, especially from out-of-town/state police forces, is considered duty-related. In fact, I have it on good authority from an ex-cop of my acquaintance who while on the beat attended several out-of-town sendoffs for his brethren in blue that such trips are highly coveted. He said that he and every one of his fellow cops looked upon such junkets as golden opportunities to party in places where they wouldn't be recognized by either the local citizenry or their own superiors. While he didn't openly admit it, I strongly sensed that the behavior these cops exhibited in local nightspots after planting the remains of their fallen brothren was less than exemplary, to put it kindly. Based on the events documented in D.C. two years ago during National Police Week, this shouldn't be at all surprising.

boy, with 20,00 police off the streets, we mundan...

2009-12-21T09:07:35.851-07:00

boy,

with 20,00 police off the streets, we mundanes somehow managed to not go out and rape, pillage, and plunder. makes ya wonder.

rick

---More than 20,000 police officers, ... took part...

2009-12-21T08:57:57.816-07:00

---More than 20,000 police officers, ... took part in the service.--- Were they "On the CLOCK" ?? Who paid for the travel? Were they using TAXPAYER supplied vehicles? If they have to WHINE so much, they are in the WRONG JOB, go find another.

Will, Oh, how rich it would be to learn how many ...

2009-12-21T07:50:27.955-07:00

Will,

Oh, how rich it would be to learn how many of the police officers in attendance at that memorial service had their travel and time-off compensated by the taxpayers!

Mr. Grigg, Very interesting that you would tag th...

2009-12-21T06:52:03.369-07:00

Mr. Grigg,

Very interesting that you would tag these officers as "The Brotherhood in Blue". How true this statement is.
I just wonder how many of these 20,000 are also members of some sort of quasi-Masonic Fraternal Order of Police Officers? Would be willing to bet, and I am not a betting man, that it would be in the 90 to 95 percentile range.

Thank you

Ray Anderson

Excellent article, Gregg. Our watchdogs have becom...

2009-12-21T05:33:57.389-07:00

Excellent article, Gregg. Our watchdogs have become partners with the wolves. The Thin Blue line has become its own special warrior caste, above the rest of us humble serfs.