Comments on Pro Libertate: The Terrorists Among Us

There is just so much damning evidence. If our for...

2008-01-24T23:04:00.000-07:00

There is just so much damning evidence. If our forefathers were alive today, I'd bet you my left nut that they would not just be screaming 'REVOLT!' but would be preping the noose to hang the bastards that run this poor excuse for a government.

As for me, I'm waiting for the recession to hit. Nothings better for starting a rebellion then economic hardship.

Can't wait to be hanging them rotten bastards.

P.s. Check out the HQ for Liberation Armies knew headquarters. Ron Cole may be arrested, but he has more allies then he knows.

-Jack

"There is no stopping those who would call us terrorists. But in that measure, consider this...Who is the one who brutalizes the citizens? Who is the one, at the end of the day, who robs you of your wages? And who, tell me, oh who, is the criminal, the Freedom Fighters who die to protect our rights, or the Politicians, and Policemen who wave the flag, but reach into our pockets to steal our money. When the poor, and desolate inhabit the Earth, made such by the corrupt wills of their very own leaders, no vain thing, nor hollow words shall make right all the evils they hath perpatrated upon us. So that, come hell or high water, the highest tree, is the tree they will be hanging from"

"The road to freedom, is paved with the blood of patriots, and tyrants, there bodies feeding, and nursing the roots of all the children, and saplings of liberty, that grow up with fierce, and rebellious vigor, ever upwards towards unknown horizons.

As long as "We, the Sheeple" are willing to suffer...

2007-03-30T15:22:00.000-06:00

As long as "We, the Sheeple" are willing to suffer this, it will not only continue, but get worse. The fact is that "We, the Sheeple" are perfectly willing to put up with this, for the simple reason that 1) taxation is not a very painful form of slavery for the mass of us, and 2) we can easily delude ourselves into believing that we're getting something for nothing. After all, "the rich guy", the one who earns more than we do and who deserves to have more of "his" money stolen for the common good, will be the one to pay, not us.

As for the folks Will mentions here, well, it's somebody else, not us. It'll never happen to us.

Its truly sad that we've been lied to and herded a...

2007-03-24T22:45:00.000-06:00

Its truly sad that we've been lied to and herded about like cattle all of our lives.

That the "herders" and "herdees" move on as if everything is normal is what always amazes me.

You can almost hear the liars shouting out "Move along now. Nothing to see here. Move on/"

My advice to those who think there are all these n...

2007-03-23T08:45:00.000-06:00

My advice to those who think there are all these novel ways to avoid paying the stupid income tax: dont even think about it. The whole system is rigged against us peans.Courts, law enforcement etc... and they have bigger guns than us. Fighting against them this way is futile.
I just took care of many years of back taxes and unfiled tax returns.
It sucked me dry financially. But I have the last laugh because the whole edifice of Empire that these jerks have built will crumble quickly when the debts are due. When the foreign lenders who hold them come calling. When this happens those who have experienced hardship and financial suffering will be most ready - physically, emotionally and psychologically - to weather these future times of hardship. Those who have achieved their entire existence at the expense of others will be left stranded like a fish out of water Suddenly these fat maggots won't have their inflation adjusted paycheck and taxpayer subsidized benefit plan - to depend on. Do you think these parasites would know how to function during a time such as this. Do you think Japanese or Chines central bankers are going to give a crap about these beauracrats and what they think they are "owed". I think not.

hey CK,go to te webpage freedomabovefortune. jose...

2007-03-23T04:00:00.000-06:00

hey CK,

go to te webpage freedomabovefortune. joseph bannister used to be an IRS agent and after he heard devvy kidd on the radio, he began to question what she was saying. he later discovered the truth. when he took this info to his superiors, they kindly asked him to quit. i hear he has a paper that he wrote and that it's online.

but to answer a few questions:

1) i've read the code only applies to 5% of americans (look at the 16th amendment. it talks about source of income. those sources are listed in the CFR. most americans do not have income from those sources.

2) aaron russo has said that the supreme court has ruled 8 times that the 16th gave the gotv no new taxing authority. the IRS ignores this

3) the income tax went into full swing after WWII. it was called the liberty tax. it was a war tax. it was about 5%. it was "voluntary" and supposed to end at the end of the war. well, at the war's end the govt sent out the forms again and people sent in the cash!

4) milton friedman gave us income tax witholding. it was his idea. congress loved the idea.

5) go online and find the 1992 and 1993 1040EZ forms. read the preambles... "congrats!...you are among millions of americans who voluntarily pay the income tax!" i kid you not, that's what it says.

Your knowledge is as good as mine, Cap'n Kirk.I do...

2007-03-22T13:05:00.000-06:00

Your knowledge is as good as mine, Cap'n Kirk.

I don't have time to research it in any depth, but I've heard that the 16th Amendment wasn't ratified by the requisite three quarters of the states by 1913, even though the government claims otherwise, of course.

About Mr. Kahre, I agree Kirk, yes, I think the real reason the IRS attacked him is because he paid his ICs in precious medals. Will, are you sure that the IRS is publicly making hay over income tax itself and not that Mr. Kahre didn't report the proceeds, whatever the sort, he paid out to his ICs (i.e. 1099s)? Because that, OTOH, would easily pass jury muster. You know, the rule of LAW and all that; it would be more palatable for mass consumption and not show the IRS in an even worse light than it already is by giving renewed vigor to the fiat vs. tangible money debate.

Will is correct, though, that designated ICs themselves, and not Mr. Kahre, have to write their own individual income tax checks (or debit) to the IRS and file the proper forms.

Companies or businesses, especially small businesses, sometimes hire employees and make them ICs for several reasons. It's not JUST about removing the employer's income tax liability (pertaining to employees), but most if not all legal liabilities, are also born by the individual ICs as well and not the parent business.

I've been an IC in the past so I know a little of what it is about. I got hit with a state tax lien in 2003 for a 1999 income that I somehow "forgot" to file at the time. I had sent the federales their cash as I couldn't fathom their dogs beating my door down, but the states get the info from the feds and 4 YEARS later I get a nice nastygram from Richmond.

Anyhow, I managed to hold the state dogs at bay until Virginia instituted "Tax Amnesty" that year (luckily!) and my new assessment ended up being only about a third of the original liability and the penalties that had accumulated since '99.

To say I was relieved would be an understatement after that episode ;).

I have a question here that Will, DD or someone el...

2007-03-22T08:35:00.000-06:00

I have a question here that Will, DD or someone else more knowledgeable that I might be able to answer.

I keep hearing from some quarters that the Federal Income Tax as an entity itself is somehow not really codified (I refer to the Tax as a whole and not to the gazillion page code that outlies the procedures, do's and don'ts), or that it is not really legal. Is there really any justification for these positions? I think that the Federal Income Tax was not a permanent fixture until after WWI. What's the scoop here?

As an aside, it appears that Mr. Kahre is more than just a victim of a Dammnable prosecution here. Sorry, sometimes I can't help myself. Did the Feds go after him because he was paying his IC's in precious metals?