Comments on Pro Libertate: "V" for Vigilante

I'm still looking for a photograph or physical...

2014-06-18T07:24:56.694-06:00

I'm still looking for a photograph or physical description of Updyke if anyone has one. Thanks

Anon @ 10:27 -- Here's a link to a summary of ...

2011-11-27T22:33:40.502-07:00

Anon @ 10:27 -- Here's a link to a summary of Book 4 (scroll down), "How Like Kingdoms Without Justice are to Robberies" (in this translation) --

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/120104.htm

link to st augustine let do a 1400 page bok, just ...

2011-11-27T22:27:24.661-07:00

link to st augustine let do a 1400 page bok, just sayin . . .

I see I mangled a sentence in my comments. Let...

2010-12-14T10:08:58.074-07:00

I see I mangled a sentence in my comments. Let's try it again: Rather than "Getting distracted on fantasies of anarchy that has always existed and will always exist, as governments are instituted by the winner of the last war -- the ultimate argument of how anarchic power struggles are resolved."

It should read: It is a waste of time and energy to get distracted on fantasies of anarchy that has always existed and will always exist, as governments are instituted by the winner of the last war -- the ultimate argument of how anarchic power struggles are resolved.

- Karl Brooks

The "non-agression principle" is a popul...

2010-12-13T22:52:23.968-07:00

The "non-agression principle" is a popular libertarian phrase that is poorly defined. What it seeks to represent is "just law" -- that is the laws prohibiting force or fraud that is not justified by self defense or defense of others. To couch the principle of just law in terms of government vs. anarchy is a fallacy, as in the fantasy world of anarchist's competing "protective agencies", any one of which may obtain dominance by superior force over others and become the next "King John", collecting "fees" from those who are subject to their protection.

Not that it is inevitable that they do, as some are made up of good people who will relinquish power after they have accomplished the needed defense. Some won't, as the Vigilance Committee in San Fransico did not. They first organized to deal with local corruption in league with the "Barbary Pirates" in the north bay and then went on to become the new boss, same as the old boss.

The price of liberty is eternal vigilance. We still have citizen's arrest, neighborhood watches, and community dispute resolution committees. Unfortunately we also have a criminal gang in control of our society, and they select the government and (re)write the laws to suit their ends. In anarchist fashion, they are the biggest baddest gang; well organized with their secret societies and in league with overt criminal kingpins. To take them out is going to require concerted, distributed, and well focused efforts. Getting distracted on fantasies of anarchy that has always existed and will always exist, as governments are instituted by the winner of the last war -- the ultimate argument of how anarchic power struggles are resolved.

Liberty can only be defended by focusing on the qualities of men who we hold up as model citizens -- honest, decent, respectful of just law, actively vigilant, and capable of tempering justice with mercy.

That said, good article on the prevalence of bad men making bad law.

-- Karl Brooks

So this is what they mean when they say things wil...

2010-12-13T20:32:04.860-07:00

So this is what they mean when they say things will be like they were in the Wild West.

From now on I will probably always think of this blog post whenever I read or hear someone say that.

Great article, Will.

2010-12-11T22:04:49.664-07:00

Great article, Will.

If you listen to Alan Watt, he convincingly argues...

2010-12-11T20:47:56.471-07:00

If you listen to Alan Watt, he convincingly argues that governments are just a self legitimized gang of thugs, and until the modern day, we recognized as such. But being the most studied species of the planet, under the guise of "education" can this gang of thugs justify its sway over the people. At least people were more self sufficient back than and less indoctrinated.

However, continues Dr. Anderson, "the so-call...

2010-12-11T07:58:16.191-07:00

However, continues Dr. Anderson, "the so-called threat from vigilante justice is like the threat we face from private companies delivering the mail or from home schooling: it undermines an established government monopoly."

Right on.

Go back far enough in history and it becomes appar...

2010-12-11T06:34:03.209-07:00

Go back far enough in history and it becomes apparent that most modern nation states originated as armed robberies and extortion rackets. For example, shortly after Columbus set foot on a New World island, street ruffians recruited from Spanish cities as military contractors began to scour North, Central, and South America for gold. In the process they killed thousands, enslaved the remainder and divided vast territories into feudal fiefdoms which later became states. After the fall of Rome marauding armed gangs carved up much of Europe into its present day form. Stalin partly funded his early political career through bank robberies.

Another wonderful essay, Will. I would make so bol...

2010-12-10T16:26:33.987-07:00

Another wonderful essay, Will. I would make so bold as to suggest a subtitle; "The Real Business of Politicians and Pigs".

"Updyke and his posse proposed to shoot the leaders of the Vigilantes and screen themselves under the plea that they had resisted."

Pretty amazing how little the tactics of the porcine pack have changed.

It continues to puzzle me how the criminal element...

2010-12-10T13:25:51.197-07:00

It continues to puzzle me how the criminal element within law enforcement retains enough arrogance to believe their predations will not eventually be returned to them in kind. Just as a schoolyard bully never questions his own dominance until he finds himself prostrate and clinging to consciousness at the hands of a schoolmate who has had enough.

jk

Remember that not a single word of this history wi...

2010-12-10T10:25:41.950-07:00

Remember that not a single word of this history will ever be spoken or written within the halls of government "education" indoctrination camps.

Will, excellent job (as usual) in first explaining...

2010-12-10T10:21:26.116-07:00

Will, excellent job (as usual) in first explaining a piece of history and then extracting its relevance as analogy to our current situation.

Thanks, Will, for a very interesting historical le...

2010-12-10T10:14:16.536-07:00

Thanks, Will, for a very interesting historical lesson that proves that "asset forfeiture" is nothing new and that the nature of the origins of the criminal clique ruling us under "color of law" hasn't changed either.

Great work William! I enjoy your writings and radi...

2010-12-10T09:08:26.942-07:00

Great work William! I enjoy your writings and radio interviews very much.

Thank You for your endurring efforts, to right this ship.

I also like Mike Blessings Comments

Interesting read.

2010-12-10T05:24:45.444-07:00

Interesting read.

McConnell and two neighbors discovered that five h...

2010-12-10T03:05:26.831-07:00

McConnell and two neighbors discovered that five horses and four mules – livestock worth more than two thousand pre-Federal Reserve dollars – were missing.

This is akin to a gang running off with a few cars and pickup trucks, both in terms of utility and price. Notice that the ability of the owners to recover the property in question has decreased as the State-based system of law enforcement had increased in power.