Comments on Pro Libertate: How "Justice" Operates Under A Criminal Regime

Inspired by Dixiedog and Anonymous, I've taken...

2010-01-22T01:10:21.520-07:00

Inspired by Dixiedog and Anonymous, I've taken the threads of their contributions and added some weaving of my own. Love, Hope and Peace.
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"REIMAGINE"

Imagine no more Statists
It's easy if you try
No legal theft through taxes
or inflation pushed sky-high
Imagine all the people
Owning all their pay

Imagine no more Banksters
It isn't hard to do
No goldless counterfeiting
or controlling far from view
Imagine all the people
Living without thieves

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world's a freer one

Imagine no more leeches
I wonder if you can
No self-centred tax-feeders
A brotherhood of man
Imagine no elitists
Controlling all the world

Yoo hooooo oooo

You may say I'm a dreamer,
but I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
and the world's a better one

Ford N: The Browns were not "average" be...

2009-10-22T00:50:19.644-06:00

Ford N: The Browns were not "average" because the typical American doesn't built a fortress with a bomb making factory in it to defend himself from the Jewish Masonic Illuminati that he thinks is after him then barricades himself inside to resist arrest with deadly force because he thinks the Ten Commandments instructs him to.

So only "average" or "typical" people should have the right to keep their own property? Who cares who or what the Browns thought (aside from you, of course)? That isn't the issue. The issue is whether or not individuals should be subjected to this kind of treatment merely for trying to keep what they earned. Am I missing something here?

Simply amazing that the Fed porkmeisters can rob a...

2009-10-21T19:12:26.493-06:00

Simply amazing that the Fed porkmeisters can rob and spend away you and your childrens inheritance with nary a nod while you, citizen/slave, had best do what you're ordered to do or else!

And Mr. Charles Rangel is the very same rat who presently is itching to reinstate the draft. How convenient.

Ford N., I grant that the Browns aren't the ki...

2009-10-21T06:07:00.942-06:00

Ford N., I grant that the Browns aren't the kind of people a "movement" can comfortably embrace. But I really don't care about the "movement"; I'm more preoccupied with the rights of individuals than the needs of institutional libertarianism.

The issue of Mr. Brown's beliefs takes us right back to Jefferson's admonition: Let my neighbor believe in one God or ten "gods," it neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg. Brown was a man who expressed some bizarre opinions at a time when he was surrounded by pick-pockets and leg-breakers. It shouldn't be difficult to identify which of those parties was the actual threat to individual freedom.

In much the same way I fail to be scandalized by the fact that the Browns manufactured a handful of crude pipe bombs at a time when they were confronting the enforcement arm of a regime that routinely incinerates entire families in foreign lands, and occasionally (vide Mt. Carmel in 1993, Philadelphia in 1985, and an attempt at Ruby Ridge in 1992) immolates people it targets here at home.

The Browns were not "average" because th...

2009-10-21T00:18:33.760-06:00

The Browns were not "average" because the typical American doesn't built a fortress with a bomb making factory in it to defend himself from the Jewish Masonic Illuminati that he thinks is after him then barricades himself inside to resist arrest with deadly force because he thinks the Ten Commandments instructs him to.

These are not the kind of martyrs that Libertarianism needs.

Actually, I'm still only a spin internist. Spi...

2009-10-20T10:59:11.059-06:00

Actually, I'm still only a spin internist. Spin Doctoring, as you probably know, requires a government-issued license.

Ed and Elaine Brown are hardly "average"; the typical American surrenders his income to the enemy in Washington without putting up the fight they did.

Ed's criminal background -- meaning the actual crimes he committed against persons and property -- troubles me, which is why I made specific mention of it. (A government-licensed Spin Doctor would have elided such matters, of course.)

I don't know the Browns personally; for all I know they have dreadful taste in music, tell bad jokes, and otherwise aren't the kind of people with whom I'd spend my private time. But their "tax evasion" neither harms nor threatens me, and I'm not scandalized at all by the fact that they acquired an admirably large arsenal to defend themselves against people who do threaten me.

I can't think of a legitimate reason why I should consider myself more threatened by people like the Browns than by the people bent on using lethal force to steal their property.

What masterful spin doctor you are! Painting a pic...

2009-10-20T10:24:51.378-06:00

What masterful spin doctor you are! Painting a picture of a couple that are just your average joe and the big bag gubernent being out to get them.

Good grief. I've read the case on Pacer and the picture you paint is one of fantasy.

How could a lawyer be legitimately disbarred for s...

2009-10-20T09:14:41.359-06:00

How could a lawyer be legitimately disbarred for stating his client's case?

As I've said before on numerous blogs etc arou...

2009-10-20T08:35:44.034-06:00

As I've said before on numerous blogs etc around the internet, until the "authorities" start suffering consequences they have NO REASON to listen to "the people." or change their JackBoot ways. No consequences = No change by government. They don't care how much we "talk" and "complain". Those aren't consequences.

The hogs are hungry!

"Why do the lawyers refuse to demand Due Proc...

2009-10-20T08:23:00.140-06:00

"Why do the lawyers refuse to demand Due Process ??"

Perhaps because they might get disbarred for persisting in bringing up the arguments you make?

"Imagine no state property I wonder if you c...

2009-10-20T05:20:08.299-06:00

"Imagine no state property
I wonder if you can.......

"Imagine no elitists
controlling all the world."

"Yoo hooooo oooo"

"You may say I'm a dreamer,
but I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
and the world will be a freer one"

Please allow me to make a note of this topic to br...

2009-10-19T21:05:59.951-06:00

Please allow me to make a note of this topic to bring up the fact that the Southern Poverty Law Center keeps and eye out for "tax cheaters" and turns that over to the feds.
The Southern Poverty Law Center is a racket for traders of this nation.

Aren't taxes wonderful . . . they really are t...

2009-10-19T20:49:39.089-06:00

Aren't taxes wonderful . . . they really are the power to destroy.

Recently, I read that Idaho is no. 10 in amerika's top taxer's.

My marginal rate is 53.4%, plus 30% of the after tax dollars to the anti-family child support system (18% of the total), plus 6% sales tax (~3% of the total), plus property tax (~1% of the total), plus ad infinitum smaller amounts. So I figure 3 out of every 4 dollars I earn get confiscated right off the top before I put a roof over my boy's heads, food on our table or clothes on our backs.

They tax it when you earn it, they tax it when you spend it, they tax it when you spend it . . . you can't even wipe your ass without being taxed. And that is just a rough cut of the numbers . . .

Definitely different stock than those who founded this country. Personally, I think it is time to start hanging the bastards once again . . . which I shared with Butch 'DUI' Otter on the way home the other night with a single digit salute as he collected his mail.

Sic Semper Tyrannis

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-165688030...

2009-10-19T19:28:09.611-06:00

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Take the children and yourself and hide out in the...

2009-10-19T12:35:14.195-06:00

Take the children and yourself and hide out in the cellar.
By now the fighting will be close at hand.
Don't believe the church and state and everything they tell you.
Believe in me, I'm with the high command.

Can you hear me?
Can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running,
can you hear me calling you?
Can you hear me?
Can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running,
can you hear me calling you?

There's a gun and ammunition just inside the doorway.
Use it only in emergancy.
Better you should pray to God, the father,
and the spirit will guide you and protect you from up hear.

Can you hear me?
Can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running,
can you hear me calling you?
Can you hear me?
Can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running,
can you hear me calling you?

Swear allegance to the flag. Whatever flag they offer.
Never hint at what you really feel.
Teach the children quietly for someday suns and daughters,
we'll rise and fight while we stood still.

Can you hear me?
Can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running,
can you hear me calling you?
Can you hear me?
Can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running,
can you hear me calling you?

Can you hear me?
Can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running,
can you hear me calling you?

Can you hear me running?
(can you hear me calling you?)
(can you hear me)
Hear me calling you.
(Can you hear me running?)

Hear me running back
(Can you hear me running?)
Hear me running
Calling you, calling you
Back To Mike And The Mechanics Song Lyrics

Mike And The Mechanics
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William, Your basic assumption is that there is a...

2009-10-19T10:45:28.403-06:00

William,

Your basic assumption is that there is an income tax upon individuals.

Wrong !

If such a tax exists, Congress could legally confiscate 100% of the earnings of individuals and the nation of sovereign citizens could become a nation of slaves. The Constitution could be stood on its head with just one law.

The Right to pursue a livelihood has been established as a Right included within the provisions of Liberty. Constitutional Rights are not suitable objects for taxation. If it were otherwise, all constitutional rights could be taxed out of existence. There can be no tax levied upon the Right to a jury trial, upon free speech, etc. Ref. http://www.usa-the-republic.com/revenue/liberty/index.html

If such a law existed, it would be alleged in pleadings (such as indictments) and be subject to contestation with the burden of proof as to its existence and to it validity. The government eliminated this possibility with the 1954 rewriting of the IRC.

Indictments for income tax prosecutions rely upon IRC 7201 through 7215. But those statutes have been declared generic as applying to ALL taxes collected by the IRS. All other taxes (except for individual income tax prosecutions) cite 7201 through 7215 in addition to a liability statute in subtitle A, B, C, or D. By not being required to cite a liability clause for an income tax, any challenge to the unidentified tax shifts the burden of proof onto the defendant. He will be required to prove there is NO POSSIBLE WAY the unidentified tax MIGHT be valid. That is impossible to prove as is documented on Quatloos. The courts permit the invalid indictments. Ref. Motion to Dismiss (Vroman) indictment http://restoretherepublic.net/forum.php?c=topic&op=index&cid=18&tid=7309

The corruption is in the courts. Why do the lawyers refuse to demand Due Process ??

Living in the same town as the Browns, my wife and...

2009-10-18T20:06:06.564-06:00

Living in the same town as the Browns, my wife and I never once felt threatened by them or their supporters. The numerous Federal agents and the State Police that descended on our town and even managed to ensnare me in a roadblock - all under the guise of keeping us safe from those crazy tax protesters up on the hill- were a different story. Their presence was threatening and their treatment of our local government was despicable. But alas what can you expect when we live in an age where all the power is concentrated within Mordor on the Potomac.

Dang it, D.D., that's a lyrical masterpiece --...

2009-10-18T19:16:49.043-06:00

Dang it, D.D., that's a lyrical masterpiece -- and, ironically enough, I was just working on a song parody of my own, albeit one inspired by a much different original....

Imagine there's no Leviathan It's easy if ...

2009-10-18T18:42:31.104-06:00

Imagine there's no Leviathan
It's easy if you try
No confiscatory tax from us
With us only Providence
Imagine all the people
Living for tomorrow

Imagine there's no Leviathan
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no socialist dogma too
Imagine all the people
Living life in freedom and liberty

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be a better one

Imagine no private property
I wonder if you can
No need for helping the poor
A forced collective of man
Imagine the few elitists
Controlling all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be a better one

(Lyrics borrowed, and edited, from the song "Imagine" by John Lenin [sic])

Well, whatever else can be said about this instanc...

2009-10-18T12:25:19.180-06:00

Well, whatever else can be said about this instance and others like it and the mentalities that produce them, and however many people are informed about the wrongdoings of government, the joke is still on us. Geithner is still the Treasury Secretary, the Marshalls who took the Browns' lives from them are still going to work every day, and it all happens because the government has finally realized that it can do whatever it wants. The public can cry out as much as it wants - the people in power will laugh as they steamroll their will over whatever they want, as they should. They get the joke, and the joke's on us.

Don't forget Daschle, Will. You know him - th...

2009-10-18T11:23:01.582-06:00

Don't forget Daschle, Will. You know him - the tax feeder passing for a "representative" from the senate and senate majority leader at one time - who didn't pay his taxes for two years. Heard anything about it since? Didn't think so. Do you think we will we ever hear anything about it again? Didn't think so. Think he paid interest and penalties? In America he would have. In amerika, which he helped to create, he will not suffer any consequence at all for this.

It is absolutely appalling that two citizens are treated as those featured have been while the "leaders" show their absolute disdain of us all by making rules they write apply to us, but not themselves, taking over half our monies in the process. That they then sop our money into their own greedy, bottomless pockets as well as not pay their own taxes is a double disdain toward us. What is the response of the people? Reelect them! In the end, we have what we have for tolerating what we tolerate.

The effects of the tyranny we live under are all around for us to see. We have no will to do anything but kowtow and bow any more and the state of our nation reveals such. This is the sad state of the citizenry of this nation. On the other hand, the monster ruling us all is bankrupt and overstretched. It will not take much to tip the monster over the cliff. The time is coming. It is eagerly awaited by those of us who despise the hypocrisy, tyranny and megalomania that are the hallmarks of the true enemies of the people - the domestic enemies who reside among us.

William, The late Dr. Sam Francis coined a term f...

2009-10-18T02:07:09.465-06:00

William,

The late Dr. Sam Francis coined a term for this conduct by the rulers to the ruled, Anarcho-tyranny.

As Dr. Francis defined it:

"Mr. Barr's words are almost a definition of the system of government I have called "anarcho-tyranny": a combination of anarchy (in which legitimate government functions—like spying on the bad guys or punishing real criminals—are not performed) and tyranny (in which government performs illegitimate functions—like spying on the good guys or criminalizing innocent conduct like gun ownership and political dissent)."

http://www.vdare.com/francis/patriot_act.htm

I think this is a useful definition of what we are seeing today and we can expect more of this criminal behavior in the future.

...the Browns stopped paying their taxes. Should ...

2009-10-17T20:15:03.167-06:00

...the Browns stopped paying their taxes.

Should be: The Browns stopped paying unconstitutional taxes.

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To be "criminal," conduct has to inflict demonstrable harm against an identifiable victim.
Neither Huftalen nor Singal can describe a single instance of palpable harm that resulted from the refusal of the Browns to pay income taxes...

But, they are terrorists: people who don't pay every possible tax that the feds hint is owed them are to be considered terrorists, as the absence of their required "voluntary" contributions will indirectly result in the untold suffering-- and possible death-- of untold numbers of trough-feeding freeloaders.

When the central power takes upon itself every sort of responsibility to provide for the masses, the productive citizenry become the breadwinners upon whose shoulders everything is carried. Their disobedience cannot be tolerated.