Comments on Pro Libertate: The Making of a Prison Society

It takes a real man to pepper spray an infant. Pa...

2012-02-26T22:12:05.709-07:00

It takes a real man to pepper spray an infant. Pardon my French but government people are of two kinds:
they are assholes or assholes-in-training.

And then liberals wonder why it is that Americans ...

2011-12-10T10:58:16.819-07:00

And then liberals wonder why it is that Americans are supposed to be allowed to own guns...?

I don't own one, never have, but the day I feel that my opportunity to own one is likely to disappear, I'll guarantee you I'll be out there hunting to get one without any trace of me having it.

A government that's afraid of its citizenry is a tractable government. It knows there are limits on what it can get away with.

"Among other things, being disarmed means being despised."
- Machiavelli -

"This is a test of the Emergency Monarch System. Had this not been a test, you would already be wretched."
- Dogbert -

MoT it is my observation and opinion that most &qu...

2011-12-06T16:35:19.218-07:00

MoT it is my observation and opinion that most "Oath Keepers" are clueless goons that do not grasp liberty at all. No disrespect to Stuart Rhodes I think he is doing all he can with the mush minds that he has to deal with.

I think Oath Keepers may be better than your average cop but the still spend the majority of the day violating the inalienable rights of people.

Do you really think an "Oath Keeper" could keep his job if he refused to enforce any of the victimless crime laws that interfere with our right to travel?
There really is no such thing as an employed "Oath Keeper"

Perhaps Oath Breaker is a better word for them.

To Yossarian and Inalienable Rights: The really s...

2011-12-06T13:51:45.192-07:00

To Yossarian and Inalienable Rights:

The really sad irony of it all is that all of the "driving" statutes are most likely only for commercial drivers and their vehicles. In Colorado, "commercial vehicles" is very narrowly defined to mean cargo haulers and basically taxi-type services, people haulers for hire.

You should load up on espresso and dive into your state's statutes, preferrably the ones with annotations. See if there are any driving statutes for "private" drivers. Also, read your state's constitution. Has there ever been a constitutional amendment (that was actually created according to your state's due process for amendments) that gives the state the right to regulate private travelers on the common ways and their chosen vehicles?

Without that amendment, there can be no lawful restrictions on your right to travel on the public roads in the manner most efficient and affordable to you.

In Colorado, the annotated statutes have references to case law where private people were abused for not having asked the state's permission to travel then sued and won. In all those cases, the court ruled that the state cannot deprive private people of their inherent right to travel.

Now, having said all that, I know of no contemporary who has challenged the driving statutes in Colorado and who made perfect cases in court regarding the right to travel who (myself included) has not also been jailed even so.

The game is so rigged now and the "citizens" (read slaves) are so conditioned that even if the judge allows you to bring up the private versus commercial defense, the jury will still be directed to convict you, and they will.

And you know what the slaves like the most about the track and control system for travelling? The forced insurance. Every time I've tried to explain to a "normal" person why and how the statutes are purposely obscured and mis-applied, the dumb beast will bleat out the "what if you get hit by an uninsured driver" retort. Once, I had a cellmate of about 18 years old who was in jail for shoplifting. We had the conversation about why I was there, and she sneered about the insurance thing, so I responded by asking her what insurance was for. She said, in essence, that it was to protect other people from you doing something wrong. So I asked her why doesn't the government force you to buy shoplifting insurance. She told me to shut up and never spoke to me again (oh, boo hoo).

Why are people making such a big deal about Obamacare forcing them to buy health insurance? They love being forced to buy car insurance, so they've already set the precedent that being forced into a contract is okay.

I find it is no longer possible to penetrate the universal cognitive dissonance of the sheeple. No point in trying. Just get your own self out of the system and hold onto your hat. It's been way past the point of no return since before you and I were ever born.

Yossarian, that's why I make no bones about no...

2011-12-06T13:32:53.885-07:00

Yossarian, that's why I make no bones about not traveling through the Airport Gulags or any other place I feel these goons congregate. What freedoms we have are when the costumed cretins are nowhere in sight and nowhere on the payroll. That someone such as yourself was handcuffed and forced to strip for an expired license is obscene. Guess no Oath Keepers in your neck of the woods? Since when have they actually put a stop to all the illegal and immoral goings on within their respective departments? I'd like documentation. Their "oath" appears to exist betwixt their ears and sits mute and invisible. I have little faith that when the nut crunching comes that the majority of these nimrods will do anything but go along with the tide of evil all the while saying to themselves that they'll "do something" about it later. Which of course is cold comfort to the victims. Will has written about officers who actually DID do something and they were crucified for it.

Yossarian thanks for your post. It is a sad comme...

2011-12-06T07:51:13.062-07:00

Yossarian thanks for your post.

It is a sad comment about the state of liberty in this country that a person exercising the God given right to travel is arrested, handcuffed,and humiliated, in addition to having money and time stolen from them. For what? For not having the money to pay Caesar for this permission after being robbed on so many other fronts.

The final irony being that this is done by the very people that we pay to protect our God given rights.

God Bless You. Hang in there. Find some comfort in that God is not happy with these people and you are doing the right thing in speaking out.

Anon@9:58 AM, I just noticed your comment. You'...

2011-12-06T03:12:56.080-07:00

Anon@9:58 AM, I just noticed your comment. You're right, the gov considers us the enemy, and more and more, their favorite form of humiliation is groping you at airports or actually stripping you naked whenever they get close enough. I got stopped for "suspicion" (which in Alabama means if you're white, you're too close to a black neighborhood, and vice versa if you're black.)

My license was expired, so I was handcuffed and taken to jail, where I had to go to the bathroom and lift my shirt and bra in front of a policewoman, and as horrible as that was, it's tame compared to some of the stuff you read about. Friends and family say "get over it already," and I thought about blowing my brains out.

I think the government will implode before we do anything. I mean, I don't know what to do anyway. I hope for secession, and I don't mean a U.S. and a Confederacy, I mean a secession between those who "consent" to be governed and those who don't. And those who consent to be governed can have their presidents, Congresses, taxes, wars, cops, and all the rest of it.

I have gone from wanting a smaller government to wanting NO government. None. Not city, county, or state, which all have their own police to "keep us in line." We can protect ourselves from real criminals, but we can't protect ourselves from the criminals who are paid to "protect and serve" their masters. Think of that phrase "protect and serve"-does anybody know of a single person that the cops have protected from murder, rape, robbery and so forth? And these "services" - what in God's Holy Name does that even mean?

CHEE!! CHEE!! CHEE!! VIVA THE REVOLUTION!!!!

2011-12-05T17:48:16.306-07:00

CHEE!! CHEE!! CHEE!! VIVA THE REVOLUTION!!!!

I agree with a commenter or on the ACLU page, “Why...

2011-12-03T10:59:45.707-07:00

I agree with a commenter or on the ACLU page, “Why not urge senators to vote down the bill altogether and then an amendment would be superfluous?”

Even if they don’t round up Americans for detention, they still do it all over the world. That's horrifying. The White House veto letter said that certain provisions in S.1867 could somehow "hinder" the President from shipping Gitmo detainees to other countries. STOP IT!

Thanks for telling it like it is Mr. Grigg! The f...

2011-12-03T09:58:54.747-07:00

Thanks for telling it like it is Mr. Grigg!

The following is not advocating violence or hatred; it is advocating self defense against criminals.

Total slavery is how this story will end.

People have 2 choices - to accept the coming global total slavery or reject it.

The job of the corporate-created, one-world-government "Attack Bots" (formerly known as "peace officer", "police", ...), whether the average cop understands it or not, is to condition people to think and behave as obedient slaves who are expected to suffer every form of abuse that the slave masters wish to inflict upon "their human resources". If we allow this to continue, it will be for the long term (e.g. look at the history of the African peoples - slavery for hundreds of years - and continuing - and imposed by the same kind of people then as now ...(historical fact)).

Those who reject this conditioning will suffer as well and maybe even more than the obedient slaves. But their rejection will be the end of the "slave masters" and therefore will be more short term than the alternative.

The time to act is now! Unfortunately this means very serious actions. Chose to be obedient, perpetually abused (robbed, beaten, raped, molested by thugs in uniform (e.g. Transportation Sexual Abusers) murdered, ...) slaves or reject your coming status.

The "Attack Bots" no longer act according to the principals of Human Rights. In the USA (and around the world), they now act against the Constitutional rights -which are the natural rights afforded to all humans (rights not issued by "governments" nor can these be taken away by "governments"), therefore they are no longer lawful agents of the people.

Here are some examples (which the controlled media does not report) of how to reject slavery and stop the "Attack Bots" (and once the "Attack Bots" have been stopped - the one-world-gov-corporate criminals will be rounded up and put where they belong - in prison for life for crimes against humanity).

"Armed and Ready: New Mexico Residents Defy Government"

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/guns/armed-and-ready-new-mexico-residents-defy-government

" ... a woman in her 60s rose to address the feds. She pointed out that ... she (and her family were) not about to let some official from an unconstitutional bureaucracy tell her what she could or could not do with her land.

The woman ended by warning the feds that her family has many guns and a huge supply of ammunition, and they would use all of it if needed to keep the EPA off of their land."

"... the militia in Lincoln County – some 200 plus men who keep their rifle and battle bag in their vehicles 24/7. They can muster in about 30 minutes at any place in the county. ..."

One more thing - for those who don't get it yet - here it is plain and simple: You are the government. The criminals incorrectly identified as "government" in DC, state and local, are your servants.

Your servants - have declared war on you!

How did this happen you ask? Because you let it happen until we are where we are now; with a choice between total, long-term slavery or rejection of slavery.

However, I don't believe that civilization is ...

2011-12-02T07:21:19.506-07:00

However, I don't believe that civilization is the creation of psychopaths; I believe that ALL governments are the creation of psychopaths to rule over society. They, themselves, are the destroyers of society.

Anon, if by “psychopaths” you mean politicians and...

2011-12-02T07:12:33.815-07:00

Anon, if by “psychopaths” you mean politicians and the “ruling class,” I agree. After reading letters from the “founding fathers” to each other, and parts of the Constitutional convention, and the Federalist Papers, I've come to the conclusion that all the major players were power-hungry psychopaths.

The difference between Hamilton and Jefferson is just one of degrees. In Fed. 15, Hamilton wrote:

“Why has government been instituted at all? Because the passions of men will not conform to the dictates of reason and justice, without constraint.” …”Government makes laws and it is essential to the idea of a law, that it be attended with a SANCTION… a PENALTY or PUNISHMENT for DISOBEDIENCE. This PENALTY can only be inflicted in two ways: by the agency of the courts and ministers of justice, or by MILITARY FORCE; by the COERCION of the magistracy, or by the COERCION of arms.”

Jefferson believed that man is somewhat more rational and need be “restrained” only by “moderate powers.” Washington told Jefferson that ours was an experiment in republican government and “with what dose of liberty man could be trusted for his own good.”

From Washington to Obama, psychopaths all. Without government to save us from ourselves, there would be insurrections, anarchy, rebellions, sedition, revolts, usurpation, and incitements. We are deluded, turbulent, contentious, and ruled by our “passions.” ( this is how we are described in the Fed. Papers.)

"Bad cops make the other 5% look bad'.&qu...

2011-12-01T20:13:12.070-07:00

"Bad cops make the other 5% look bad'."
~Dave Champion

Anonymous above: This is almost word for word out ...

2011-12-01T11:28:44.105-07:00

Anonymous above: This is almost word for word out of the intro to the book by Lobaczewski, "Political Ponerology: A Science On The Nature Of Evil Adjusted For Political Purposes" that is, a book about how the world is controlled by criminals and especially psychopaths.

Everyone should read this book!

I need to share this with you due to the importanc...

2011-11-30T10:41:36.327-07:00

I need to share this with you due to the importance of the subject.

I make the effort to share this information because it gives me, at last, a plausible answer to a long-unanswered question: Why, no matter how much intelligent goodwill exists in the world, is there so much war, suffering and injustice? It doesn’t seem to matter what creative plan, ideology, religion, or philosophy great minds come up with, nothing seems to improve our lot. Since the dawn of civilization, this pattern repeats itself over and over again.

The answer is that civilization, as we know it, is largely the creation of psychopaths. All civilizations, our own included, have been built on slavery and mass murder. Psychopaths have played a disproportionate role in the development of civilization, because they are hard-wired to lie, kill, cheat, steal, torture, manipulate, and generally inflict great suffering on other humans without feeling any remorse, in order to establish their own sense of security through domination. The inventor of civilization – the first tribal chieftain who successfully brainwashed an army of controlled mass murderers – was almost certainly a genetic psychopath. Since that momentous discovery, psychopaths have enjoyed a significant advantage over non-psychopaths in the struggle for power in civilizational hierarchies – especially military hierarchies.

Behind the apparent insanity of contemporary history, is the actual insanity of psychopaths fighting to preserve their disproportionate power. And as their power grows ever-more-threatened, the psychopaths grow ever-more-desperate. We are witnessing the apotheosis of the overworld – the overlapping criminal syndicates that lurk above ordinary society and law just as the underworld lurks below it.

During the past fifty years, psychopaths have gained almost absolute control of all the branches of government. You can notice this if you observe carefully that no matter what illegal thing a modern politician does, no one will really take him to task. All of the so called scandals that have come up, any one of which would have taken down an authentic administration, are just farces played out for the public, to distract them, to make them think that the democracy is still working.

http://www.whale.to/b/callahan1.html

Oh, forgot to mention, that the usual running at t...

2011-11-29T10:07:32.510-07:00

Oh, forgot to mention, that the usual running at the mouth fascists such as Graham wholeheartedly, of course, endorse such laws. His goose-stepping fantasies most likely include himself with riding crop and boots.

Inalienable, I suspect that a great number of peop...

2011-11-29T09:45:49.591-07:00

Inalienable, I suspect that a great number of people exercise "The Stages of Grief" because the cold, hard, sad truth is too painful. That they're willing to ignore and even support their oppressors only goes to show how conditioned they've become. It wouldn't take much to passively round up and herd them into waiting train cars.

Unknown In the information age there is no way of ...

2011-11-29T05:16:01.252-07:00

Unknown
In the information age there is no way of not knowing unless you choose to remain that way.

Many people even when they see it still keep their minds closed at to what is going on.

Great article, as always. Made me think of this i...

2011-11-29T02:48:08.194-07:00

Great article, as always.

Made me think of this incident:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Baker

It's possible that Joughin thought the police ...

2011-11-28T23:37:22.255-07:00

It's possible that Joughin thought the police would understand the right to peaceably assemble, since they take some kind of oath to that effect. What he failed to understand is that sometimes you have to destroy freedom in order to preserve it. He could have learned that from Bush if only he had listened.

Most likely those parents DIDN'T know how sava...

2011-11-28T21:22:59.073-07:00

Most likely those parents DIDN'T know how savage the cops have become. Most people think of police in terms of the idealistic ubermenschen they see on television shows like Bones or the CIS shows, or the well-behaved everymen on COPS. They just don't know, have no way of knowing, until it happens to them.

I understand that the police in this country are q...

2011-11-28T20:53:40.874-07:00

I understand that the police in this country are quickly becoming something more...and less. But I have to wonder what kind of parent, that has the full knowledge of what these armored crewcuts are willing and able to do to them, would bring a child, let alone his whole family, into an area where these thugs are sure to congregate.

Great piece brother Grigg! There is no doubt that ...

2011-11-28T15:03:53.804-07:00

Great piece brother Grigg!
There is no doubt that those controlling the cops (probably the FBI/CIA at one level up) want violence. It will be much deserved when it happens, but will give the designers of our society the chance to crack down even further for a situation that they themselves created. It's the Hegelian dialectic at work again.
And without a doubt many useful idiots will cheer the police.

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." John F. Kennedy 1962

Zig Heil. Welcome to NAZI America.

2011-11-28T14:21:11.436-07:00

Zig Heil. Welcome to NAZI America.

The cops don't get it, we are getting tired of...

2011-11-28T10:35:44.215-07:00

The cops don't get it, we are getting tired of this... they have no understanding of what we are capable of...

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