<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post1885900274103366171..comments</id><updated>2017-04-13T04:47:21.148-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Pro Libertate: The Gulag State, Take Two: Breyer Proposes an American &quot;Law of Suspects&quot;</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/32869165/1885900274103366171/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2007/12/gulag-state-take-two-breyer-proposes.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>William N. Grigg</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='19' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5rhFUXs_62I/VgVL2E3rMII/AAAAAAAAMJ4/cjJOyI7W208/s220/Photo%2BRon%2BPaul%2BLiberty%2BReport.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>4</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-5460087354594054282</id><published>2007-12-14T11:12:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-12-14T11:12:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>There seems to be no end to laws and more laws upo...</title><content type='html'>There seems to be no end to laws and more laws upon laws.  It is inevitable that with greater pressure put upon the populace that greater numbers of people will be squeezed through and then proclaimed to be &quot;evidence&quot; that the laws are indeed working and therefor calls for more &quot;laws&quot; will rise up to the heavens.  Ad infinitum.  The Biblical stories about rulers burdening the people with laws that they themselves do not adhere to sounds awfully familiar.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/32869165/1885900274103366171/comments/default/5460087354594054282'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/32869165/1885900274103366171/comments/default/5460087354594054282'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2007/12/gulag-state-take-two-breyer-proposes.html?showComment=1197655920000#c5460087354594054282' title=''/><author><name>MOT</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13996714804361467430</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.dailydiktat.com/biohazard.png'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2007/12/gulag-state-take-two-breyer-proposes.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-1885900274103366171' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/32869165/posts/default/1885900274103366171' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-388975791"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 14, 2007 at 11:12 AM"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-5847991077506514586</id><published>2007-12-14T08:01:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-12-14T08:01:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>I don&#39;t understand why Breyer would suggest a &quot;Law...</title><content type='html'>I don&#39;t understand why Breyer would suggest a &quot;Law of Suspects&quot;. Doesn&#39;t the MCA06 already &quot;institutionalize preventive detention&quot;? &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;DRS</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/32869165/1885900274103366171/comments/default/5847991077506514586'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/32869165/1885900274103366171/comments/default/5847991077506514586'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2007/12/gulag-state-take-two-breyer-proposes.html?showComment=1197644460000#c5847991077506514586' title=''/><author><name>drs</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08696860151165946008</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2007/12/gulag-state-take-two-breyer-proposes.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-1885900274103366171' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/32869165/posts/default/1885900274103366171' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1911185469"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 14, 2007 at 8:01 AM"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-8121823208095022400</id><published>2007-12-13T16:43:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-12-13T16:43:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>I was reading again recently on one of my favorite...</title><content type='html'>I was reading again recently on one of my favorite topics of interest, military history, and specifically the Battle of Waterloo as relayed by historian Joseph B. Mitchell in &lt;I&gt;Twenty Decisive Battles of the World&lt;/I&gt; (1964), a rehash (with his inclusion of five additional major battles) of Sir Edward Creasy&#39;s original 1851 book, &lt;I&gt;The Fifteen Decisive Battles of the World&lt;/I&gt;.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;One particular paragraph of note, speaking of the political environment in France after Napoleon abdicated the throne in 1814:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;I&gt;The Bourbon kings of France were restored to the throne in the person of Louis XVIII, who promptly forgot that it was &lt;B&gt;not Napoleon&lt;/B&gt; who had been responsible for the uprisings against his predecessor. It was &lt;B&gt;the people&lt;/B&gt; of France who had initiated the revolution and the first ten years of war.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The people, whose motto had become &lt;I&gt;Libert&amp;eacute;&lt;/I&gt;, &lt;I&gt;Egalit&amp;eacute;&lt;/I&gt;, &lt;I&gt;Fraternit&amp;eacute;&lt;/I&gt;, of course got much more than they bargained for with Jacobin philosophy. Sigh, this is &lt;I&gt;always&lt;/I&gt; the case when the commoners ignite a revolution whimsically or in knee-jerk fashion because of some arbitrary rage against the contemporary establishment of the given era in question. No matter the culture or the people involved, a revolution or uprising with no Judeo-Christian moral foundation undergirding it, is doubtless futile and will fail.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Cuba is merely but another splendid example. The people hated Batista and the expoitation of the peasant class by the American richie class and its cabal of loathsome mobsters, and so they received in return that paragon of &quot;Libert&amp;eacute;&quot; and Egalit&amp;eacute;, Fidel Castro, instead. Utopia has reigned ever since.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The way I see it, personally, is that the majority of Americans really do want greater government control and regulation in spite of their meaningless screams for &lt;I&gt;Libert&amp;eacute;&lt;/I&gt;! As just one example, you only have to look at most people’s thoughts about so-called “net neutrality” and the fact that the people desire government regulation for what they &lt;I&gt;perceive&lt;/I&gt; as wrongs. Yet, I’d wager all that these same folk would no doubt be among many of the ones screaming the loudest about &lt;I&gt;Libert&amp;eacute&lt;/I&gt; in general!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;In response to this article &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://news.zdnet.com/2010-9588_22-6222385.html&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Save Internet freedom--from regulation&lt;/A&gt;, one commenter stated:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;I&gt;If only...&lt;BR/&gt;..it were that simple.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;What the writer fails to acknowledge is the fact that ethics subverted by greed within some companies have done harm to people for the sake of expanding profit thereby inviting regulation on themselves by the representatives of the people whom they were abusing.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Given their record, does ther writer really think we are dumb enough to trust the telecoms?&lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;…to which another commenter responded thusly:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;I&gt;But what you fail to acknowledge is...&lt;BR/&gt;...that the exact same greed applies to those within the government which will be setting the rules. We may or may not be &quot;dumb enough to trust the telecoms&quot;, but are we also dumb enough to trust the politicians?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Given the choice, I trust the telcoms more. At least they don&#39;t posess the legal right to violate my civil rights.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Then comes the crux of this entire exchange:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;I&gt;Government is US&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;the exact same greed applies to those within the government which will be setting the rules&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;If you read out Constitution you will learn that WE are the government. With that in mind, your sentence makes little sense and is in fact insulting to the people of this country.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Sigh, some folk apparently do not realize just how unintentionally poignant and truly indicting their comments are about US, the people, and that WE, a supposedly self-governing people, indeed are largely to blame!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And so it goes in other areas of economics, culture, religion, etc.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Most people today, Americans and Europeans, as did the hapless &quot;pioneering&quot; French commoners of the latter 18th century, overwhelmingly believe that &lt;I&gt;Egalit&amp;eacute;&lt;/I&gt; is on the same plane as &lt;I&gt;Libert&amp;eacute;&lt;/I&gt;. However, one can only faithfully be orchestrated on a societal scale at the expense of the other; indeed, the two concepts are NOT mutually inclusive. America’s commoners took a lot longer to be programmed to believe such nonsense. Today, however, the vast majority of Americans believe precisely this nonsense.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;People today will say the “Civil War” was fought over slavery and that Lincoln set us on a footing towards &lt;I&gt;Egalit&amp;eacute;&lt;/I&gt;! But, as history has shown and hindsight being 20/20, the price of &lt;I&gt;Egalit&amp;eacute;&lt;/I&gt; is the loss of &lt;I&gt;Libert&amp;eacute;&lt;/I&gt;! But the average commoner today simply refuses, or is unwilling, to fathom that thought.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/32869165/1885900274103366171/comments/default/8121823208095022400'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/32869165/1885900274103366171/comments/default/8121823208095022400'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2007/12/gulag-state-take-two-breyer-proposes.html?showComment=1197589380000#c8121823208095022400' title=''/><author><name>dixiedog</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09845646940134894119</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://members.cox.net/ogdenwb/images/dixiedog1.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2007/12/gulag-state-take-two-breyer-proposes.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-1885900274103366171' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/32869165/posts/default/1885900274103366171' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-504942784"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 13, 2007 at 4:43 PM"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-2973553986170286703</id><published>2007-12-13T13:24:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-12-13T13:24:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>They have already built the camps!!</title><content type='html'>&lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/04/national/04halliburton.html&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;They have already built the camps!!&lt;/A&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/32869165/1885900274103366171/comments/default/2973553986170286703'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/32869165/1885900274103366171/comments/default/2973553986170286703'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2007/12/gulag-state-take-two-breyer-proposes.html?showComment=1197577440000#c2973553986170286703' title=''/><author><name>niivk</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14946491089366599631</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2007/12/gulag-state-take-two-breyer-proposes.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-1885900274103366171' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/32869165/posts/default/1885900274103366171' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-258387325"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 13, 2007 at 1:24 PM"/></entry></feed>