Comments on Pro Libertate: Idiocracy's Finest at Work

Actually you are probably best off filtering your ...

2010-05-18T20:04:38.147-06:00

Actually you are probably best off filtering your water. When distilled, water loses most of its other beneficial components (sands, salts, etc). That's the problem with the government deciding what goes into your water for you, its just like drinking it straight from the source without knowing what the source IS, and what it contains. Giving up your control to nature or government results in similar outcomes... similar in that they are no longer yours to dictate or influence.

Sound familiar?

IdahoBob - no, not quite "'nuff said"...

2010-05-18T18:09:13.828-06:00

IdahoBob - no, not quite "'nuff said". If those common thugs you mention rampaged as the pigs do, there would ultimately be justice (or at least a somewhat closer approximation of that commodity than seems to presently be available) delivered at another level, from another source. Like it or not (and I do not, particularly) that is what must inevitably come next.

99: This is certainly authoritarianism. Whether or not it is fascism (which does have a specific definition) is not clear from this account.

JdL: The War on (some) Drugs was certainly a convenient vector for government to expand control by oppression. But that is what government (all government) by nature does. In fact, that is what government is *for*. If it wasn't the WoD, some other effective spectre would have materialized (or been conjured).

I drink distilled water. I use it to make my coff...

2010-05-17T01:22:19.943-06:00

I drink distilled water. I use it to make my coffee. Anything I consume requiring water. Maybe that's why I'm so appalled....

Lithium is toxic and mind altering when taken inte...

2010-05-16T11:41:51.184-06:00

Lithium is toxic and mind altering when taken internally, but I do not see why you worry so much. It finds its way into groundwater (where it is not already present) in much the same way sodium fluorides do... as industrial byproducts/contaminants.

Think about every truck that travels the road. Lithium bearing grease, lithium 5th wheel grease, lithium (likely) transmission grease (or graphite of some sort) so one way or another, any of that grease that makes its way onto the roadway, is as good as in your drinking water and local foodstuffs. And yes, much of that grease falls to the road mixed in as grime and washes off in the rain, sooner or later into the water table and it *will* find its way into your water or veggies or meats.

Most lithium is removed directly from the body, some forms all sorts of nifty compounds. Read up on it. That stuff is everywhere and part of everything. That the government people want to put it in your drinking water is not the problem.

That you keep sanctioning those people's existence and ABILITY to do it to you, is YOUR fault for wanting government, rather than freedom. Maybe instead of voting you should have been busy thinking, living and inventing means to not depend on centralized tyrannies to "facilitate" trade.

I'm with L. Neil Smith on this one.

not anytime soon 99... As flouride and toxic food...

2010-05-15T12:42:19.263-06:00

not anytime soon 99...

As flouride and toxic food wasnt bad enough, there are plans to start putting lithium in the water around the USA.

If the american public was not made so stupid by what they chose to consume, then perhaps there might be a furor over this kind of thing.

This is FASCISM. It's beyond the pale. We sh...

2010-05-15T01:43:22.361-06:00

This is FASCISM.

It's beyond the pale. We should be in the streets in our millions.

WHEN do we switch from rhetorically flipping out to ACTUALLY flipping out?

This clearly was more than just a case of bored co...

2010-05-14T20:21:56.412-06:00

This clearly was more than just a case of bored cops on a sudden testosterone trip. This was a deliberate game of cat and mouse. If Will accurately portrayed the whole story (and I have great confidence that Will does not cherry-pick information to make slanted stories as the MSM does), then those cops were consciously, and by conspiracy, engaging in a set-up to justify their conscious desire to murder that stupid kid.

Yes, the kid was stupid, but then, at 20, so was I. But neither of us deserved to be hunters' game. And that is what the stupid kid appears to have been. The cops played with the kid and the truth as cats play with mice before they bite them in half.

Good Lord, we're a lot closer to the Day than I had hoped.

To MoT: Nothing IS functioning!

2010-05-14T17:19:18.750-06:00

To MoT: Nothing IS functioning!

The police - the only group in America not require...

2010-05-14T16:46:18.339-06:00

The police - the only group in America not required to accept responsibility when they discharge a firearm.
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/video?id=7440841

For anyone who hasn't connected the dots, all ...

2010-05-14T14:28:21.519-06:00

For anyone who hasn't connected the dots, all you need to do is view the video over at CollateralMurder.com of the Apache gunship mowing down more than a dozen peaceful Iraqis and then shooting up a van with kids in it.

What is blatantly evident about that video is the military, siege mentality of the crew of the Apache helicopter; who were looking for any reason at all to kill anyone at all.

This military, siege mentality is prevalent in our militarized police staffed ever more often by basket case armed forces veterans.

I wouldn't give two cents for the hides of this kind of scumbag cop when the SHTF.

Idahobob... I was just thinking about what you sai...

2010-05-14T12:19:50.879-06:00

Idahobob... I was just thinking about what you said, "criminal justice system". That old cynical self of mine pondered on those words, which I've heard countless times, and a bulb went off. Ya, know sumpthin! You're right! It IS the criminal justice system because it protects criminals (the cops, lawyers and judges) "from" justice seeing as they control the "system". Woo boy! Sometimes the answers are staring us right in the face.

It didn't take very much imagination to make t...

2010-05-14T08:03:17.878-06:00

It didn't take very much imagination to make that movie.

Don't police carry handcuffs anymore? I was arrested for trespassing once and I was handcuffed first thing. Not that that would have stopped them from shooting him anyway.

Why is it, in our country, that the beastie boys, ...

2010-05-14T06:34:00.451-06:00

Why is it, in our country, that the beastie boys, otherwise known as cops, LEO's, pigs and/or jack booted thugs, get a pass whenever they torture, maim, or murder a defenseless "civilian"?

Why are they not treated as the common criminals that they are, and not prosecuted to the fullest extent under the law, just like you and I would be, if we suffered an individual the atrocities that they do on a daily basis, somewhere in our nation?

Since the "criminal justice system" refuses to treat them like they would treat anyone else, it is high time that we bring these savage dogs to justice ourselves.

'nuff said,

Bob
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Reid said, "I would also add that you are cor...

2010-05-14T06:13:38.125-06:00

Reid said, "I would also add that you are correct in your assessment on Biblical grounds, Mr. Grigg, when you said Case 'shouldn't' have been doing mushrooms." Is that somewhere near the place in the Bible that says that God is mortally offended whenever someone wears wool and linen at the same time (Leviticus 19:19, Deuteronomy 22:9-11)? Apparently God is not offended by (moderate use of) alcohol, as Jesus commanded his followers to drink it in memory of Him. Is there some place in the Bible that singles out particular drugs for condemnation?

Militant Libertarian was moved to opine that "JdL is clearly one of those 'too sensitive about my only issue' types with the drugs." I'll plead guilty to believing that the drug war is at the heart of the malaise the U.S. is experiencing today. The notion that adults are not capable of determining for themselves what to put into their own bodies is central to the infantilization of Americans. Once that notion is accepted, pretty much anything, no matter how obscene, follows. As part of this malaise, there is a tendency to "blame the drugs" both from those who oppose them and those who use them ("I got drunk and don't remember a thing"). In fact, saying that "drugs" are responsible for anything is like saying that guns are responsible for murder. It is the human being who is responsible.

If, as apparently is the case (made clear by Will's response), Mr. Case knew from prior experience that he tended to act irresponsibly when high on mushrooms, then it is correct to say that he was irresponsible to continue to use them. I actually made that point in my original post, ML; perhaps you missed seeing it?

So around 600 pounds of Pork couldn't, or woul...

2010-05-14T01:02:22.245-06:00

So around 600 pounds of Pork couldn't, or wouldn't, take physical control of this skinny dude?

Idiocracy is something of a painful film to watch. On one hand it pokes fun at the utter stupidity of America (notice they don't mention any other countries). On the other hand the world these idjits inhabit simply couldn't exist. If everyone is devolving then nothing, and I mean NOTHING, would function. Not one thing. It takes smart people acting stupidly to get what we have.

JdL is clearly one of those "too sensitive ab...

2010-05-13T21:22:27.853-06:00

JdL is clearly one of those "too sensitive about my only issue" types with the drugs. Sheesh. If you can't handle the dope, liquor, etc. then you SHOULDN'T be doing them. Grigg is right.

Anyway, having experienced 'shrooms before, all I can say is that they don't make you "superhuman" except in one way: they disconnect you from reality (your body) so well that you generally don't feel much of anything.

This means that mentally, he's not feeling the tasers, bean bags, etc.

On the other hand, the trade off is that it makes you unable to perform most physical activity beyond muscle-memory bare functions. So if the cops had bothered to try to grab him, as the 120# lady obviously did, he would have been easy to get in cuffs.

Idiocracy is right.

There may come a time when prevailing socioeconomi...

2010-05-13T20:33:10.789-06:00

There may come a time when prevailing socioeconomic conditions will leave these parasites dependant upon the goodwill of the people in order to survive. Hopefully, the collective memory of the people will be long enough to cause these tax fed petty tyrants to reap what they have sown.

jk

I would also add that you are correct in your asse...

2010-05-13T20:25:53.568-06:00

I would also add that you are correct in your assessment on Biblical grounds, Mr. Grigg, when you said Case "shouldn't" have been doing mushrooms, regardless of the outcome or his prior non-lethal uses.

It's got electrolytes!!! Something about wea...

2010-05-13T20:17:39.561-06:00

It's got electrolytes!!!

Something about wearing a uniform just makes most people fall down and worship. People want to think that they are on the winning team with the cops. They're not. That's why cops hate people exercising "open carry" so much. It makes the police less special.

Coming up next on The Violence Channel--all new ep...

2010-05-13T19:55:09.712-06:00

Coming up next on The Violence Channel--all new episode of "Ow! My balls!"

This and Office Space are two of the best movies ever. Humor through uncomfortable, insightful truths.

Sad. :(

2010-05-13T19:41:10.359-06:00

Sad. :(

JdL, Jordan Case's conduct indicates that he c...

2010-05-13T15:29:02.957-06:00

JdL, Jordan Case's conduct indicates that he clearly couldn't handle what he had chosen to ingest. Given that his consumption contributed to his needless death,
I think he would have been better off if he hadn't partaken in the first place.

Although this isn't mentioned in my article, Jordan's friends point out that he was a "veteran" when it came to consuming 'shrooms -- and yet he still couldn't, or didn't, calibrate his consumption responsibly.

"Jordan Case obviously shouldn't have bee...

2010-05-13T15:21:42.656-06:00

"Jordan Case obviously shouldn't have been consuming psychotropic fungi"

Why not? Drug use should of course be done responsibly, something Mr. Case clearly did not adhere to when he invaded another's domicile. However, had he remained in his own home until the effects of the psychotropic fungi had passed, on what basis do you assert that he had crossed a "shouldn't have" line?