Comments on Pro Libertate: "Necessary Force"

DPD are just intimidating assholes! I was arrested...

2014-11-25T01:33:17.335-07:00

DPD are just intimidating assholes! I was arrested while attempting to take money out of my bank and a rent a cop interfered in by federal banking business. I threatened justice in the court , but DPD made all the paper go away and acted like it was all a big mistake. DPD officers came to my house in an attempt to intimidate me. After 2 years of digging I have now have enough evidence to expose them & bring them all down...

I completely agree with you William! Agression and...

2012-04-19T07:29:39.724-06:00

I completely agree with you William! Agression and violence are not to be tolerated. There are far better and more constructive methods in order to deal with such a perticular situation. Of course violence is an option, but it is the worst of all.

These so-called "police" are nuttin but ...

2012-04-11T23:30:28.051-06:00

These so-called "police" are nuttin but a bunch of filthy garbage punks
They should be tried and sentenced to do 1 year police work in Detroit
If they survive they will probably go get a dishwashers job

America is a good country! Like in Mexico, you can...

2012-04-11T22:43:28.399-06:00

America is a good country!
Like in Mexico, you can recognize the criminal psycho eady!
They wear a police uniform.

Todd, I think you're absolutely right. Heck, ...

2012-04-10T20:18:47.170-06:00

Todd, I think you're absolutely right.

Heck, I'm offended they're even allowed to lie, let alone do all that they do under color of law these days.

When they begin to walk like a duck, they become ducks.

- clark

Just a friendly reminder to most here that anyone ...

2012-04-10T06:06:24.231-06:00

Just a friendly reminder to most here that anyone advocating specific acts of violence on an internet message board is most likely a law enforcement agent. Most productive, regular folks are neither that violent or that stupid. Our 'bold' friend Anonymous likely gives off the faint aroma of rancid ham in real life.

"It's a shame that the whole Denver PD is...

2012-04-09T20:50:13.929-06:00

"It's a shame that the whole Denver PD is getting a bad name because of these assholes on a power trip." ???

[Among others...]

@Bob, Ha! Ya think?

- clark

Will, I wonder if this blog is being infiltrated b...

2012-04-08T22:11:05.838-06:00

Will, I wonder if this blog is being infiltrated by Cass Sunstein and his henchmen.

It's cops like Miller and Robledo are the reas...

2012-04-07T14:27:00.413-06:00

It's cops like Miller and Robledo are the reason why cops are referred to as "pigs." It's a shame that the whole Denver PD is getting a bad name because of these assholes on a power trip.

"Bob said... This is what is happening now in...

2012-04-07T12:30:28.481-06:00

"Bob said...
This is what is happening now in Barack Hitler's Amerika (or is it Barack Mugabe?).

April 5, 2012 11:01 AM"

You should probably note that the attack on the vet happened while Bush was still in office. Straw-man attacks are never a good idea :P

Regarding: "This is what is happening now in...

2012-04-07T11:17:23.103-06:00

Regarding:

"This is what is happening now in Barack Hitler's Amerika (or is it Barack Mugabe?). "

1) The incident occurred in early 2008.

2) The police refuse to release abuse reports for the 8 years prior.

3) That eight years, and up until just a couple of weeks before the actual incident!) were under the Bush administration.

4) You are very, very bad at math. I mean seriously. You can't normally progress to the 4th grade with skills like that. Schools will hold you back.

Regarding: "HAWAI'IAN POPULATION IS ABOU...

2012-04-07T11:12:42.592-06:00

Regarding:

"HAWAI'IAN POPULATION IS ABOUT 3% OF
TOTAL

PRISON POPLULATION OF WOMEN EQUAL 85 % HAWAI'IAN
PRISON POPULATION OF MEN EQUAL ABOUT 40% HAWAI'IAN"

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Not only are those comments in horrible, horrible All Caps, but they are also highly disputed.

Because of conflicting methods of measurement (100%, 50%, any blood quantum, and a variety of other systems of determining who is "Native Hawaiian", the figures for *both* the total number of Hawaiian Natives in the state, as well as the total number in prison, varies to the extreme.

Some figures show as little as 3% of the population in Hawaii is Native. Others show 10%, and claim that there is some under-reporting due to people not realizing their own complicated ancestry, and others 'disavowing' their native roots due to a lack of feeling of connectivity to Hawaiian movements.

The prison population also shows a similar problem in identifying "who is who". Anecdotal reports indicate a high number of Native Hawaiians are incarcerated. The general trend among the numbers seems to bear this out. However, the numbers you cite (just like any numbers involving this matter) are both subject to massive "judgment calls", and also unverifiable as fact.

Part of this comes from the fact that there is no universally accepted definition of a "Native Hawaiian". Among Hawaiian activist groups this is a matter of extreme contention.

Without the use of "mixed caps", as well as source citation, I tend to be skeptical to such claims involving numbers like those presented here. I tentatively agree that there is probably a disproportional number of people incarcerated (by most reasonable measurements).

However, there is another factor to consider: Nowhere is it guaranteed that a prison population will match the demographics of the population at large. It just doesn't work that way. The administration of justice is not geared to provide a demographic "feel good" outcome. High rates of alcoholism and methamphetamine abuse, among other factors, may severely tilt the way things work out.

"...There is no reason whatsoever that the al...

2012-04-07T10:52:38.100-06:00

"...There is no reason whatsoever that the already well-soaked taxpayers of Denver should be on the hook for crimes committed by Miller and his fellow feral animals, crimes that by no remote stretch of the imagination could even remotely be considered 'in the line of duty.' "

Well: They bought his gun, badge, cuffs, and club. They armed him with weapons, training, and special protection and powers under the law. They appointed his chief to preside over the department. Then he, under color of laws passed by the people of Colorado, abused his power.

The system of accountability which again, was paid for by the people of Colorado not only failed to right this wrong, but even worse interfered with justice.

You get the kind of government you elect and pay for. Denver elected and paid for this one. People of Denver deserve every penny of court costs and judgment that comes from this.

Who else do you want to pay for on-duty police action by Denver police? The citizens of Atlanta?

Once DENVER taxpayers start seeing $100 ... $400 ... $2,000 ... $5,000 a year in additional taxes from settlements in cases like this, THEN they will fix their sh*tty sh*tty government.

Like it or not, this cop is part of the Denver government, acting under color of law, and calling for backup (more government resources). Then his fellow goons refused to reveal prior records of abuse, and worked hard to cover the whole thing up. They did this on the clock, while drawing their checks and receiving their orders from the Denver police department.

The cop should definitely face personal tort liability, but Denver should hemorrhage money from this kind of stuff until it stops.

Denver taxpayers shouldn't have cut corners by not paying for a strong truly independent system of police review, and by not electing proper governance. The problem sounds widespread and systemic.

F the police.

2012-04-07T10:51:06.556-06:00

F the police.

so sad

2012-04-07T10:24:12.700-06:00

so sad

Fuck the police. This is bullshit.

2012-04-07T10:23:48.374-06:00

Fuck the police. This is bullshit.

I learned long ago when I was a teenager living in...

2012-04-07T10:18:52.214-06:00

I learned long ago when I was a teenager living in San Antonio, TX that cops tend to respond physically when their authority is called into question. I got smacked around on two different occasions after being pulled over and searched for no reason. I feel bad for Mr. Moore. Things like this should never happen but they do because of the thuggish nature of many police officers.

what do american cops have on the side of their ca...

2012-04-07T10:06:48.279-06:00

what do american cops have on the side of their cars,to protect and serve. har de har har har,AMERICA LAND OF THE FREE,lol

This is a blog but I'm concerned because peopl...

2012-04-07T10:01:04.788-06:00

This is a blog but I'm concerned because people are reading it as a news article. Very biased. Only showing one side of the story. Pictures that are not from your stories used for dramatic effect. I could find no record of your first story ANYWHERE but here. Your video of the woman being brutalized shows her chasing the cop (ok so maybe he said some dickish things walking in) and yelling in his face. He had to detain her because she was following him like a child. There are real stories of police brutality you could have put into this but it sounds like you were searching for scraps against the Denver police. I'm sure they can be a-holes at times but to condemn the department based on this rubbish is insanity. You obviously have an agenda.

Wow, most of you commenters are more heinous than ...

2012-04-07T08:52:39.191-06:00

Wow, most of you commenters are more heinous than these cops... really? Privitized police? Great idea... that's just what we need. Black water owned by God an Sachs patroling your neighborhood. I'm sure THEY will respect your rights. Talk about ignorance.

"Doubled down on violence and brutality and c...

2012-04-07T08:42:24.404-06:00

"Doubled down on violence and brutality and contempt for human rights." Care to elaborate?
Are you implying that this was somehow the intention of the current gvnmt to have brutal cops at the helm who beat the general public (ones that served the country no less)? I find this hard to swallow.

Lets keep this in perspective. These guys are violent jerks and need to be brought to justice.
And I really hope they are, this behaviour is abhorrent.
The whole world isnt out to get you though. Having a rant about corruption helps no-one

What does this have to do with the president? Trol...

2012-04-07T08:15:13.833-06:00

What does this have to do with the president? Troll.

You all hate the cops and leave ranting messages a...

2012-04-07T08:10:52.205-06:00

You all hate the cops and leave ranting messages about them but you are also the ones who don't go to protests over what they do and only click "Like" on facebook when someone says we should do something about this. You are all the problem - its not the cops. You are all cowards and complainers.

@Bob if you read the dates of the incident this st...

2012-04-07T08:02:16.033-06:00

@Bob if you read the dates of the incident this story was about, it happened while Bush was in office, March 2008. Don't be a fool.

No human being deserves to be murdered? I guess th...

2012-04-07T07:57:03.918-06:00

No human being deserves to be murdered? I guess that's one of those statements where Hitler is the obvious exception.