Comments on Pro Libertate: Snapshots of a Demented Regime (UPDATED; see the last item)

Absolutely right, bantam. I apologize. The "pot-ke...

2006-12-18T12:18:00.000-07:00

Absolutely right, bantam. I apologize. The "pot-kettle-black" remark (after re-reading it) did make it seem as if I was assuming that you were implying only welfare mommas and not the entirety of your statement. I was unintentionally caveating your statement rather than mine.

I was actually attempting to caveat my agreement with your "living off government" statement, but failed miserably.

Writing does not convey meaning the same way that speaking can, as the meaning can come only from the words used and not countenance, demeanor, and tone obviously. Speaking is still very much easier to convey one's precise meaning than writing is able to, IMO.

I'm still learning that lesson...;)

One can't simply and conveniently scapegoat the we...

2006-12-18T10:44:00.000-07:00

One can't simply and conveniently scapegoat the welfare mommas and similar ilk as the only sad specimens feeding at the public trough anymore.

I didn't. Farmers being paid not to grow crops is as much sitting on a rear as a "welfare momma" - you're the one that immediately assumed that idea, not I.

all,amen to dixie dog. first point. well stated,...

2006-12-17T16:22:00.000-07:00

all,

amen to dixie dog. first point. well stated, i remember a couple of years back how even scottie pippin got a few hundred thousand out of a farm subsidy. i was like what? what does he need extra cash for? and then there's vin suprynovicz's article on farmers in arizona driving up the price of milk.

on the last point, i gotta agree as well. waiting a week? wow. his case is still sad. he walked 16 miles....in a circle! well, it was an oval. for those interested, survivalblog.com had some interesting tips on how to survive these kind of situations.

I saw on the news that authorities still advise pe...

2006-12-17T12:02:00.000-07:00

I saw on the news that authorities still advise people in a similar situation to stay in their car. And that's what Kim did for as long as possible, until he reasonably concluded they would never be found.

I hear ya, james. Point taken.

Even so, I could see maybe two days remaining there at the vehicle hoping to be found, but after two days I'd assume that we weren't going to be found and act accordingly. I can't imagine waiting an entire week though.

bantam said - And what's wrong with that? Honest s...

2006-12-17T11:51:00.000-07:00

bantam said - And what's wrong with that? Honest self-preservation is a /good/ attribute. If only people who sat on their rears, living off the government dime and refusing to work had the same mentality...

There's nothin' wrong with that. The purpose of writing it wasn't about it being "wrong," it was merely part of the package of illustrating how ordinary the man was acting. I thought I made that clear, but I guess not. Oh well...

And about "living off government" I agree, BUT you can count businesses, organizations, farmers, just about every part of the socio-economic strata who live at least partially on the government dime, if not totally these days. One can't simply and conveniently scapegoat the welfare mommas and similar ilk as the only sad specimens feeding at the public trough anymore. That's indicative of "pot-kettle-black" syndrome.

dixiedog said - He was as much attempting to save ...

2006-12-17T00:16:00.000-07:00

dixiedog said - He was as much attempting to save himself as to desiring to save his family.

And what's wrong with that? Honest self-preservation is a /good/ attribute. If only people who sat on their rears, living off the government dime and refusing to work had the same mentality...

I understand where dixiedog is coming from re Jame...

2006-12-16T10:14:00.000-07:00

I understand where dixiedog is coming from re James Kim, but one word in his defense: The night following the news of Kim's death, I saw on the news that authorities still advise people in a similar situation to stay in their car. And that's what Kim did for as long as possible, until he reasonably concluded they would never be found.

The Mint's ban on individuals melting down their own coins is just a higher-profile instance of a problem that's destroying the Republic and its economy: executive branch agencies writing laws, when the Constitution grants that authority only to Congress. One of DownsizeDC.org's campaigns, Write the Laws, would restore the separation of powers in this area. (And, presumably, cut down on the number of regulations.)

re: sink sink sockssome kinda Freudian slip?

2006-12-15T10:26:00.001-07:00

re: sink sink socks

some kinda Freudian slip?

I think "sink sink socks" is what one would call S...

2006-12-15T10:26:00.000-07:00

I think "sink sink socks" is what one would call S P A M. I noticed that post just after I posted and figured it had to be spam, given the number of links, not to mention the incomprehensibility of the post :P.

Will, you should be able to delete garbage comments from Blogger. I know a blogmeister can delete comments when they are using Haloscan so I'd think the same can be accomplished easily with Blogger also.

sink sink socks,are you...ok?

2006-12-15T07:03:00.000-07:00

sink sink socks,

are you...ok?

I agree with your assessment of government in gene...

2006-12-15T00:51:00.000-07:00

I agree with your assessment of government in general, as it’s usually so obvious, and BLM in this case being held accountable and a criminal probe from an outside (of the fed hierarchy) agency, say the Oregon state police, being conducted. Makes perfect sense.

However, even though I failed to mention it in the “Three Men” thread, I do not concur with your judgment that James Kim be cast in the same light as the two other men, especially the Austrian gentleman who was beheaded. Why? A number of reasons; firstly, being that the other men in your profile knew precisely what their fate would be if they went against the grain and resisted whereas Mr. Kim most likely had no thought of certain death being in his destiny that day when he set off. He was as much attempting to save himself as to desiring to save his family. Secondly, procrastination on Mr. Kim’s part. The other men demonstrated no real hesitation in making their decision to oppose the state. But Mr. Kim waits around for an entire week before finally setting off to seek assistance! Why on earth would one wait, and wait, and wait….until you’re worn down, weakened, hungry, etc.?? Sure, he may have wandered sixteen miles, but that also makes clear of course that he could’ve went much further if he’d set off much earlier when he was much more fit. The bottom line is we don’t have the faintest idea whether or not Mr. Kim had the kind of backbone of a man who knowingly faced certain death and yet act out a certain way regardless. He may be that kind of man, but then again, maybe not. However, as to the details so far presented, there was nothing extraordinary about his actions. Any ordinary man in his right mind will try to save his family from hardship and danger.

I’m sorry, I guess I just don’t share your “high praise” for folk who, like any one of us, could go out on a vacation, drive on the highway, fly in an airplane, and/or a thousand other things, and end up dead that day “for their family.” In other words, his saga is only a hair above ordinary in my mind, not extraordinary, and certainly not anything close to martyrdom or any other such nonsense. Many, if not most, folk who die unnaturally on any given day “die for their family.” A man slaves in a mine day in and day out and the mine collapses and he dies. Assuming he was the breadwinner for his entire family, or even if not the sole breadwinner, he also died for his family too, ol’ boy.

On the other hand, in my mind, the epitome of REAL men would be men who died trying to save a stranger or group of strangers rather than his own family. Perhaps, not too many would fit that bill now would they? Nope. That would be extraordinary without a doubt.

Anyway, just a thought...

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2006-12-15T00:09:00.000-07:00

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