Comments on Pro Libertate: There Go De Judge? Let's Hope So

So will Jesus get rid of this judge, then?

2007-10-20T06:29:00.000-06:00

So will Jesus get rid of this judge, then?

all,being a sci-fi freak, i must add this quote to...

2006-11-02T20:10:00.000-07:00

all,

being a sci-fi freak, i must add this quote to this article. it took place during "transformers: the movie" when the autobot, kupp, was captured and about to be sentenced to death--fed to the sharkticons. he had just said something when he was cut off by the judges...

quintissons: "silence! or we will find you in contempt of court!!"

...

kupp: "i have nothing BUT contempt for this court!"

man. that line was classic.

Will,On the subject of abuse of authority, I think...

2006-11-02T12:09:00.000-07:00

Will,

On the subject of abuse of authority, I think it gets worse the higher the public official is up on the food chain. This is a long comment, so I apologize in advance for the length.

There allegedly was a murder here in Placer County last year. No corpse was recovered, no murder waepon was found. The woman, one Christy Wilson simply disappeared. A man, by the name of Garcia was arrested and charged with Capital Murder and is currently being tried on what appears to solely be circumstantial evidence. This, however is strictly background to my point as the above matter is entirely another kettle of fish.

Early on in the investigation, a student at my son's middle-school was identified as someone who might have critical information in the case. The Community Service Officer, an employee of the local PD and a detective, took the girl off of campus for questioning without the prior knowledge or consent of the girl's legal guardian which in this case is the step-mother. The step-mom threw a fit. The PD officer was "fired" from the local school district as the Community Service Officer and the PD demoted him one grade.

Compare this to a situation where a 14 year old girl (a high school freshman) in Sacramento allowed some content on her MySpace page last year that suggested harm be done to the Emperor. The offending content on the MySpace page was "Kill Bush". The girl was 13 years old and in the 8th grade when the offending content was published.

A month or so ago, the Secret Service (SS here for short, befitting, no?) called the girl's home and informed her mother that they needed to speak with her daughter. The mother informed the SS that she was in class and she didn't want to pull the girl out of class and that the girl would be home in a short time. The mother also made it known to the SS that she wanted to be present during the interview.

Upon terminating the phone call, the SS drove to the school, pulled the girl out of class and grilled her in a separate room, scaring the crap out of her in the process. The Principle was aware of all of this and when asked why she didn't immediately call the mother, she remarked that parents often "get in the way" during such investigatory interviews and as such, she doesn't call the parents when something like this is taking place at the school.

It is obvious to anyone with at least three neurons linked together in series that this girl was not a genuine threat. The fact that it took the SS the better part of a year to show up indicates that they didn't consider her a genuine or immediate threat either.

A small-town policeman got his buttocks handed to him for doing essentially the same thing that the SS did. The SS agents suffered no repercussions; and the high school Principle totally caved in, as it seems to me that she was/is more interested in protecting her job that protecting the students she is charged with (a point you made in your blog, Will). I assert that the higher up one goes in either the Executive or Judiciary Branches, the chances of having to face the consequences for breaking the law, rules or regulations, is correspondingly reduced. In the words of my son, "That's messed up dude."

BTW Will, a perfect illustration of how the common...

2006-11-01T17:20:00.000-07:00

BTW Will, a perfect illustration of how the commoners are providing in vivid detail their desire to be obedient serfs is the following exchange from the transcripts, right off the top as it turns out:

Lewis: "And it doesn't bother you that you can see its heart beating?" (pause) "I'm asking you a question, I expect an answer."
Michael Jacobson: "Yeah."
Lewis: "Were you starving? Did you need the meat?"
Michael Jacobson: "I wasn't the one that shot the animal."
Lewis: "Would you have stopped your friend?"
Michael Jacobson: "Nope, I wasn't there at all."

Mr. Michael Jacobson answered the questions above just like a wannabe serf.

Instead of answering the second inquiry directly above, with no added nuance thrown in, he implies that shooting the animal is bad right off the top with: "I wasn't the one that shot the animal." After supplying that kind of answer, one might as well suck it up, shut down any defense you had in mind, and simply pay the piper. End of story.

I've met the enemy and the enemy is us. The commoners are their own worst enemies and provide the impetus for the elitists to continue unhindered herding the cattle into their pre-fab'd corral, Will.

Indeed, rick. One has to possess the ability to di...

2006-11-01T16:40:00.000-07:00

Indeed, rick. One has to possess the ability to discriminate b/w the message and the messenger and most cannot or will not discriminate. You know, all the messages being dissiminated about the e v i l s of discrimination probably have ingrained themselves into the minds of the serfs ;). That Kerry tree obscures the forest, ya see.

Whatever...I'm looking forward to the pendulum swingin' wildly in the other direction next Tuesday. Yippee!.....Y-a-w-n.

I've never heard of a scriptural prohibition on hu...

2006-11-01T14:36:00.000-07:00

I've never heard of a scriptural prohibition on hunting. I do know that Adam and Eve were created as vegetarians in Eden. Meat-eating was a concession that was granted only after the Flood.

kishnevi,i have no idea where you arrived at your ...

2006-11-01T14:04:00.000-07:00

kishnevi,

i have no idea where you arrived at your last post. hunting is not forbidden in the bible. esau was a hunter, and isaac loved his venison. why would isaac, who was a godly man, tell his son to go out and bring him some venison if it was a sin? please provide some scriptures if possible. :-) i'm interested in seeing how you arrived at your conclusion.

about that judge? it's hard to defend her actions, but you are always free to do so. she needs to go.

Specifically about hunting and not about judges on...

2006-11-01T11:48:00.000-07:00

Specifically about hunting and not about judges on power trips:

Do you realize the Bible agrees with Her Dishonor? It marks out Nimrod as the first hunter, and Nimrod isn't exactly the best role model, I think you will agree. And any animal killed through hunting is considered by the Pentateuchal laws as being unfit to eat.

DD,i agree with you on kerry's comments. the man ...

2006-11-01T06:34:00.000-07:00

DD,

i agree with you on kerry's comments. the man is free to say what he wants. no one has to agree with him. i found some truth in his statement. i found it very hypocritical for anyone in the current administration to blast him for his comments about the troops. heck, they're the ones who pulled out words kerry did not utter. but the hypocrisy lies in the fact that sending any service member to an unconstitutional war, and then to turn around and say that kerry "does not support the troops", is as you once said utter bovine excretia. this is truly strainng at a gnat...if it is indeed that.

i mean, these people must truly be demented! oh boy! God help them! i think they've gone well beyond a reprobate mind.

OT Will, and it's not my intent to hijack the comm...

2006-11-01T02:00:00.000-07:00

OT Will, and it's not my intent to hijack the comment thread, but I just have to mention it. I actually agree with John Kerry's missive he blurted out recently that has the conservative commentariat in an uproar. When he intimated, in essence, that only the "uneducated" (actually those who possess no sheepskin or attend a center of higher indoctrination for the purpose of obtaining that sheepskin) end up being cannon fodder is dead right. It's all about economics like I mentioned in a past thread as well. Folk don't voluntarily join the military out of some wacked out vision of extreme patriotism for the country that must be mysteriously lacking in others who avoid the same. No, they like anybody else don't have some mad desire to kill foreign folk for fun. They just joined the imperial service to try to get ahead in life.

Imagine that...

Anyway, before my blood pressure rises to much, I'll leave it at that.

At this point, if this incident had taken place in...

2006-11-01T01:34:00.000-07:00

At this point, if this incident had taken place in a self-governing community in a free country, one of two things would have happened: Either the Bailiff would have refused to carry out this patently illegal arrest, or the spectators in the courtroom would have interdicted that arrest. But the Bailiff obeyed the illegal order, and the spectators passively permitted Leslie to commit the crime of false imprisonment.

That be it! I've said it before Will; the people are by far the problem, not government agents such as this judge that basically reflect the mindset of the folk at large. IOW, folk like you and probably most of the commenters here are tiny minorities who see that judge as repulsive and unfit.

It's real simple, either the commoners act in accordance with Burke's timeless premise and are consequently apathetic and suffer accordingly and predictably, OR the commoners actually want government's agents to be proactive and overreactive and suffer accordingly and predictably. There no longer is any consideration by many, if not most, commoners of the constitutionally sound principled position and the noisy resolve to restrain government accordingly.

Again, the commoners are either in agreement, however coarse (macht nichts), or are lazy, rudderless, and consequently apathetic. Either way, it's a fatalistic mindset to harbor and, hence, the death of freedom, as the Founders envisioned it, is also inevitable either way.

Yes, there are exceptions in small pockets of the country where folk take notice of constitutional breaches, whether seemingly insignificant or major power grabs, by government. However, among the commoners at large, there is no such notice and many/most could not care less.

The bottom line, as I mentioned in a previous thread, is that folk are more terrified of losing their jobs than they are terrified of losing their freedom. The reason being is that the term "freedom" in the modern sense is so vague and almost meaningless since no one is chained as literal slaves they cannot imagine it in their minds like they can losing their livelihood, for instance. To most, if they could only have sex and do drugs without restraint, they'd think they were "free." Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and freedom of association is not at all what most think about when they think of f r e e d o m at all.

Sigh...

"Repulsive as her behavior is, Leslie is merely a ...

2006-10-31T23:13:00.000-07:00

"Repulsive as her behavior is, Leslie is merely a symptom, in much the same way that an acutely painful rectal itch might be a warning sign of a potentially fatal cancer."

Excellent!

This post was such a joy to read.

And thanks for the Pacino quote. I love Pacino and was unaware of this film. I have since added it to the top of my Netflix queue and am eagerly awaiting it in my mailbox (after I get one of the other three films I have out sent back).

will,thanks for the update. as for the judge...i ...

2006-10-31T16:40:00.000-07:00

will,

thanks for the update. as for the judge...i hope she gets hers. was in korea when an NCO recounted the true story of a general who had walked all over people on his way to the top. after he retired, he went to answer the door one day when it rang. the last thing he heard was BOOYAH! no sympathy here.

as for the cops. sad. as a former MP i must recount the joke my battalion commander once quipped when we got tasers.

"so, we gotta test these things on ourselves before we use them?

"yes, sir."

"why? we don't test our 9 mils (9mm berreta)on ourselves before we use them?"

i'm sure the officers in this case have got their stories together by now, and i'm sure the following statements have been or will be made:

"he made a quick and furtive movement towards his wasteband."

"i thought I saw a gun."

"i feared for my safety." (yeah, but all 7 of you?)

"we will not release the names of the officers involved because it might bias..."

"the officers involved have been suspended with pay."

"we are conducting an investigation into this matter."

and then a few weeks form now this excrement will come back...

"we have found that the officers acted in accordance with the law and therefore no punitive action will befall them." (and what freakin law is that?! the law to electrocute unarmed people?!"

i will say this about the military...at least the army. if this crap had happened to a service member, or a service member's dependent? those poor souls would be the beneficiaries of seeing how fast the army moves when it wants to. of course, this is all on-post. wink wink. nod nod.

I'm don't like hunting myself but I also dislike j...

2006-10-31T15:03:00.000-07:00

I'm don't like hunting myself but I also dislike judicial tyranny. I watched the video of the judge. Typical arrogance of someone who has let power go to her head.

Will, this is off-topic but I wanted you to know that I've cited your blog in an article I wrote for CounterPunch. I hope some of the liberals at CP will drop by and see what an intelligent and principled conservative looks like. My original piece is here. It's been formatted by the Antiwar League for easier reading and has a clickable link to your site here. The AWL, by the way, is trying to construct a Left-Middle-Right coalition to oppose war. It's a far cry from the warmed-over-hippie, free-Mumia, hail-Marx movement against war from the doctrinaire Left. Some of your readers may be interested in checking it out.