Subject: The First Ten Amendments were not sufficient in and of 
themselves to restrain the STATES
 
The First Ten Amendments (The Bill of Rights) 
were held NOT sufficient in an of themselves to restrain the STATES from 
Depriving People of Property, nor of the Freedom of Speech, nor of the 
Right to Compensation for property Taken, nor any of the other rights mentioned 
in the Bill of Rights.  It had been decided that the Bill of Rights in 
an of itself only restrained the acts of the Federal Government, but not even 
the most tyranical abuses of power of the States:
 
  "The 
  constitution was ordained and established by the people of the United States 
  for themselves, for their own government, and not for the government of the 
  individual states. Each state established a constitution for itself, and in 
  that constitution, provided such limitations and restrictions on the powers of 
  its particular government, as its judgment dictated. The people of the United 
  States framed such a government for the United States as they supposed best 
  adapted to their situation and best calculated to promote their interests. The 
  powers they conferred on this government were to be exercised by itself; and 
  the limitations on power, if expressed in general terms, are naturally, and, 
  we think, necessarily, applicable to the government created by the instrument. 
  They are limitations of power granted in the instrument itself; not of 
  distinct governments, framed by different persons and for different purposes. 
  If these propositions be correct, the fifth amendment 
  must be understood as restraining the power of the general government, not as 
  applicable to the states."   http://laws.findlaw.com/us/32/243.html 
 
See also:  "The Original Intent of the 14th 
Amendment"
  "As explained by Jon Roland, 
  of the Constitution Society, the language of the Fourteenth 
  Amendment was 'intended by the framers of the Fourteenth to extend the 
  jurisdiction and protection of federal courts to all rights recognized by the 
  Constitution and Bill of Rights against actions by state 
  government.'" http://www.constitution.org/col/intent_14th.htm 
  " 
 
Further purely academic insights into the thinking of the 
Framers and the States Ratifying the First Ten Amendments (the Bill of Rights) 
is to be found in the essay titled:
  
    
 
That essay documents that the Framers of the Bill of 
Rights, (e.g., James Madison) had also proposed an "Article the Fourteenth", 
that  "called for selective incorporation against the states some of the 
other Articles" of amendment (i.e., some of the Bill of Rights) in 
these words:
 
  
    "No state shall infringe the equal 
    rights of conscience, nor the freedom of speech or of the press, nor of the 
    right of trial by jury in criminal 
cases." 
The essay quotes from records of the debate on this 
proposed 14th Amendment that:
  "Mr. MADISON conceives this to be the most valuable 
  amendment in the whole list. If there were any reason to restrain 
  the government of the United States from infringing upon these essential 
  rights, it was equally necessary that they should be secured against the state 
  governments. He thought that if they provided against one, it was 
  as necessary to provide against the other, and it was satisfied that it would 
  be equally grateful to the people."  http://members.tripod.com/~candst/14thamend.htm 
"It is ironic that this particular Article was numbered 
fourteen and that it called for selective incorporation of other amendments in 
the "Bill of Rights package" against the states. It is interesting 
that it was passed by "the people's" representatives, but defeated by the 
state's representatives. It is very ironic that another Article 
also numbered fourteen was passed some 79 or so years later and that it would, 
in time be used to selectively incorporate other Articles of the "Bill of Rights 
package" against the states."  http://members.tripod.com/~candst/14thamend.htm 
 
79 years later the People of the United States corrected the 
Framers' omission, and obviated any further argument as to the effect of 
the Bill of Rights as a limit on the tyrannical power of the 
States, by prosecuting a Civil War against the tyrannical States and 
thereby compelled the States to Ratify the Fourteenth Amendment, which echoed 
the same unambiguous "No State Shall..." language:  
  
 
By the end of the Civil War, the need for the 
People to have a way to restrain tyranny of the states was painfully 
clear, as explained in the speech of John A. Bingham (the draftsmand of 
Section 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment) introducing the Fourteenth Amendment 
to Congress:
  'As slaves were not protected by the 
  Constitution, there might be some color of excuse for the slave States in 
  their disregard for the requirement of the bill of rights as to slaves in 
  refusing them protection in life or property. * * * 'But, sir, there never was 
  even colorable excuse, much less apology, for any man North or South claiming 
  that any State Legislature or State court, or State Executive, has any right 
  to deny protection to any free citizen of the United States within their 
  limits in the rights of life, liberty, and property. Gentlemen who oppose this 
  amendment oppose the grant of power to enforce the bill of rights. 
  Gentlemen who oppose this amendment simply declare to these rebel States, 'Go 
  on with your confiscation statutes, your statutes of banishment, your statutes 
  of unjust imprisonment, your statutes of murder and death against men because 
  of their loyalty to the Constitution and Government of the United States." 
  Cong.Globe. at 1089-1091.  http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=332&invol=46 
  
   
  "After 
  the civil war had closed, the same authority was asserted, and, in the States 
  recently in insurrection, was exercised to the oppression of the freedmen; and 
  towards citizens of the 
  North seeking residence there, 
  or citizens resident there who had maintained their loyalty during 
  the war for nationality, a feeling of 
  jealousy and dislike existed which could not fail soon to fined expression in 
  discriminating and hostile legislation. It was to prevent the possibility of 
  such legislation in future, and its enforcement where already adopted, that 
  the fourteenth amendment was directed."
  
   
 
   
   
  "Prior to the enactment of the Fourteenth Amendment, 
  the Supreme Court generally took the position that the substantive protections 
  of the Bill of Rights did not apply to actions by state governments. 
  Subsequently, under the "incorporation doctrine", certain selected provisions 
  were applied to states." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment 
 
In Chicago, Burlington & Quincy Railroad Co. v. 
Chicago, 166 U.S. 226 (1897), the US Supreme Court in the context of a 
lawsuit brought by White people acknowledged for the first time that some of the 
guarantees of the Bill of Rights are of such a fundamental nature as to be 
included in the Fourteenth Amendment's guarantee of "Liberty" substantively 
secured by "Law" and Due Process thereof. See:  Part 1: Law, 
a Revolutionary Idea for Peace  at http://billstclair.com/ferran  The 
Court held that the Right to Just Compensation of the 5th Amendment was 
incorporated in the "Law" Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.  
http://laws.findlaw.com/us/166/226.html 
 
 
The Supreme Court's implementation of the 
Fourteenth Amendment's specific intent to secure the entire Bill of Rights 
against infringement by the States was delayed and hindered greatly by the 
Fraudulent proposition (first invented by Attorneys of the 
States), and maintained by some people up to this present day, that 
the sole or primary "purpose" and effect of the "No State 
Shall" provisions of the Fourteenth Amendment "was to prevent 
discriminatory treatment of the recently emancipated slaves."  This 
Fraud was soon exploded by able Congressmen and Senators who had 
framed and proposed the Fourteenth Amendment, some of whom later 
appeared before the US Supreme Court as Attorneys advocating for the 
Rights of White (and All) Citizens.  Here is a note about their first 
successes in dispelling the fraud and vindicating the rights of White 
citizens:   The Original 
Intent of the 14th Amendment  http://billstclair.com/ferran/fourteenth.html 
 
Anyone who disputes that the purpose and original 
intent of the "No State Shall" provisions of the Fourteenth 
Amendment was to provide protection of the Federal Courts over 
the Civil Rights of White Citizens, no less than Black Citizens, is a 
punk.  Some Judges and Attorneys are such Punks, but that does not 
justify the perpetuation of the fraudulent proposition that still causes 
mischief for citizens today.    
 
 
 
 
Message: 17        
   
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:58:30 -0500
   From: "Ron"
Subject: 
Re: Fw: I Dispute that Amendment Fourteen...was designed primarily, to secure to 
the colored
and the first ten were sufficient in and of themselves
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mark 
Ferran 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 10:42 PM
  
Subject: Fw: I Dispute that Amendment Fourteen...was designed primarily, to 
secure to the colored
  I have not yet received from the 
"National Association for the Advancement of Caucasion Latinos" a response to 
this challenge:
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mark 
Ferran 
  To: 
info@NAACL.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 7:57 PM
  Subject: Amendment 
Fourteen...was designed primarily, to secure to the colored race, thereby 
invested with the rights, privileges, and responsibilities of citizenship, the 
enjoyment of all the civil rights that, under the law, are enjoyed by white 
persons").
  Dear Officer of the NAACL:
  I dispute 
your contention that the Fourteenth Amendment "was designed primarily, to secure 
to the colored race,.., the enjoyment of all the civil rights that, under the 
law, are enjoyed by white persons".  
http://www.naacl.com/the%20harm.htm  
To the Contrary, the Fourteenth Amendment was "designed primarily" to give 
CONGRESS POWER to secure to Loyal WHITE Citizens the Rights of Life, Liberty and 
Property which had been infringed by the Southern states prior to and during and 
after the civil war.  The only provision of the Fourteenth Amendment that 
was "designed primarily" for the benefit of the black freedmen was the first 
clause that granted them citizenship which had been denied by Dred Scott v. 
Sandford.  Everything else in the first paragraph of the Fourteenth 
Amendment was "designed primarily" for the protecton of white citizens, but not 
excluding the black citizens.
  See:  The Original Intent of 
the 14th Amendment at:  
http://billstclair.com/ferran/  
That essay begins to prove that: "Afro-centric views of the purposes of the 
Fourteenth Amendment are NOT supported by the "First Legislative Construction" 
of that Amendment by Congress (i.e., 42 USC sections 1983, 1985, 1986) nor by 
the contemporaneous and cumulative interpretations of the United States Supreme 
Court.  (see cases and statutes below).  The Fourteenth Amendment was 
originally intended to give even the "humblest" WHITE citizen born in any state 
an "assurance that, for his protection, he can invoke the whole power of the 
government."    
http://www.sierratimes.com/03/02/26/arpubrg022603.htm 
  This historical fact was established by top-notch attorneys 
who advocated vigilantly for the expansion of rights secured by the Fourteenth 
Amendment.  Without their efforts might have been stuck with the Majority 
opinion in the Slaughter House Cases, instead of enjoying the much more 
beneficial doctrines of the Three Dissenters in the Slaughter House cases.  
(See Bartemeyer v. Iowa opinions quoted in The Original Intent of the Fourteenth 
Amendment at 
www.billstclair.com/ferran 
)   
 "The Fourteenth Amendment, according to Justice Field, "was intended 
to give practical effect to the Declaration of 1776 of inalienable rights which 
are the gift of the Creator, which the law does not confer, but only 
recognizes." Slaughter-House Cases, 16 Wall. 36, 105 (1872, Dissenting Opinion). 
Agreeing with this opinion, Justice Harlan said that since the adoption of the 
Fourteenth Amendment, "the privileges and immunities specified in the first ten 
amendments as belonging to the people of the United States are equally protected 
by the constitution." Dissent in Maxwell v. Dow, 176 U. S. 581, 616 
(1899)."
    http://www.constitution.org/haines/haines_007.htm  
And, from 
http://www.constitution.org/haines/haines_008.htm    
"Three justices seem to have determined, in large part, the trend of the 
opinions of the Supreme Court, in the cases changing the meaning and content of 
the term "due process of law" and in ushering in a period characterized as a 
"carnival of unconstitutionality, which perhaps was at its height between 1890 
and 1910."[5] They were Justices Field, Harlan, and Brewer. Certain 
peculiarities and characteristics of these justices made a distinct impression 
upon this unique feature of modern American constitutional law. Foremost of this 
group is Justice Field.
    "He had, we are told, a 
quality of intellect which led him on all occasions to seek for fundamental and 
universal principles.[6] His creative power, exhibited in a marked degree in his 
legislative career, was also characteristic of his decisions on the bench.[7] 
His experience in a frontier community, as well as his training in early life, 
developed a philosophy of individualism in which he was disposed to encourage in 
every way individual self-exertion, and to object to measures attempting to 
regulate economic life.[8] It was this philosophy that led Justice Field to 
object strongly to any exercise of governmental power which to him seemed 
arbitrary,[9] and that impelled him to insist that the Fourteenth Amendment was 
designed to prevent arbitrary governmental acts.[10] More consistently than any 
other justice, he opposed the inclination of the justices of the Supreme Court 
not to give the broadest meaning and application to the due process and equal 
protection phrases of the Fourteenth Amendment. He was the spokesman of the 
court in some of the leading cases in which the interpretation of the amendment 
was changed, and continued on the bench until the reversal of the 
Slaughter-House Case and similar cases was accomplished, and until the amendment 
was interpreted as at least a negative protection to any interference with civil 
or political rights.[11] 
    "Justice Harlan, like 
Justice Field, was influenced considerably by the philosophy and experience of 
the frontier, and he, too, was individualistic in much of his thinking. He was 
regarded as a "militant justice," and was strongly nationalistic in his 
political theories.[12] Inclined to emphasize the theory of natural rights he 
was readily disposed to adopt the doctrine of fundamental rights which the 
justices of the Supreme Court were slowly developing in connection with the 
interpretation of the due process clause. He had supposed, he said, that the 
intention of the people of the United States was to prevent the deprivation of 
any legal right in violation of the fundamental principles inhering in due 
process of law,[13] objected to any interference with private property 
rights,[14] and joined, as a rule, Justice Field in protesting against the 
regulative measures of the state legislatures. He agreed with Justice Field that 
Congress and the courts ought to be authorized to exercise a national control 
over civil rights.[15]
    "No greater exponent of the 
individualistic philosophy of this period was appointed to the Supreme Court 
than Justice Brewer.[16] In decisions while on the circuit court, and in his 
opinions and influence on the Supreme Bench, he availed himself of every 
opportunity to defend the extreme individualistic doctrines which prevailed at 
this time. His point of view was expressed quite freely in an address delivered 
before the graduating class of the Yale Law School in June, 1891, on "Protection 
to Private Property from Public Attack." Referring to the Declaration of 
Independence and the bills of rights of state constitutions, Justice Brewer 
said, "they equally affirm that sacredness of life, of liberty, and of property, 
are rights, inalienable rights, anteceding human government, and its only sure 
foundation, given not by man to man, but granted by the Almighty to everyone, 
something which he has by virtue of his manhood, which he may not surrender and 
of which he may not be deprived." To Justice Brewer, the Declaration of 
Independence was the cornerstone of the federal Constitution.[17]  
http://www.constitution.org/haines/haines_008.htm