Concerning the "Aztlan" threat and other threats to the existence of the united States as ONE sovereign Country.
My comments follow the forwarded message.
M.R.F.
 
--- Original Message -----
From: Liz Michael
To: Pro-America@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 12:56 PM
Subject: Fw: Our Struggle for Aztlan

      Forwarded to me. Lest any of you have any doubt about the Aztlan movement's intention, here is what we're facing. "Ethnic cleansing", e.g., another Holocaust, and for those of you who are "liberal Jews", well, you need to know what the Aztlanites have in store for you. These people are in effect, Mexican Nazis.

      Liz Michael
      Vice President of Operations, Analon, Inc.- www.analon.com
      LizMichael.com - Political Activism for the Liberation of the World - www.lizmichael.com
      Liz Michael for United States Senator - www.lizmichael.org

      From: Monika Junghans-Jones
      Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 07:11:47 PM
      To: Liz Michael
      Subject: Fw: Our Struggle for Aztlan

      ==============Original message text===============
      From: La Voz de Aztlan<LaVoz@Aztlan.Net>
      Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 09:04:54 -0800
      Subject: Our Struggle for Aztlan


      Our Struggle for Aztlan

      By
      El Tigre NorteAmericano

      January 14, 2004

      "History of great significance to Aztlan was made
      when Dr. Armando Navarro led a U.S. National
      Delegation of Chicanos and Mexicanos into the 'Heart
      of Mexico.' ... Mexico's indigenous people have been
      victimized by centuries of oppression and
      exploitation. . President Vicente Fox Quesada
      compared this march to those made by the Reverend
      Martin Luther King and Afro-Americans in Alabama
      during their struggle against racial discrimination. ...
      This discrimination has spilled into the United
      States where Chicanos are also marginalized and
      remain under extreme poverty in the barrios of the
      inner cities. After "la conquista" of the U.S.
      southwest or "Aztlan" in 1848, Chicanos have been
      increasingly driven downward by dominant hordes of
      Anglos and other European based ethnic and national
      groups. ... People who were once free to migrate back
      and forth across "la frontera" are now facing
      murderous Anglo vigilantes and brutal U.S. Border
      Patrol agents. ... One great hope that came out of
      the Zapatista March was that generated by the
      "alliance" that was forged by some of us in the
      Chicano/Mexicano Delegation and our brothers and
      sisters in Mexico. With our population rapidly
      approaching 40 million in the U.S., we are now ready
      to take our rightful place in national, as well as
      international, political debate."
      http://aztlan.net/zocalo.htm

      National Leader Armand Navarro lead a "National
      Delegation of Chicanos and Mexicanos on the Zapatista
      March into Mexico City"
      http://aztlan.net/zapamarch.htm

      In 2003, National Leader Armando Navarro announced
      his plans to march a delegation of our people to the
      Arizona-Mexico border to "send a powerful warning to
      the armed militias" but he cancelled after he was
      maliciously SLANDERED by a stupid NorteAmericano
      named "Mark R. Ferran" who called Dr. Navarro a
      "Mexican InfilTraitor" (sic)
      (http://www.stanley2002.org/protectarizonainit.htm)
      and who conspired with Cochise County Sheriff Larry A.
      Dever to intimidate our people from asserting our
      rights as the rightful owners of the Territory of
      Aztlan.
      (http://billstclair.com/ferran/atvtrespass.html )

      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/phantomtruth/message/726

      "Invasion-By-Imigration"
      http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/6-29-03/discussion.cgi.85.html

      This stupid meddling gringo(?) with the Spanish
      surname "Ferran" thinks he is responsible for
      preventing the planned confrontation in Arizona,
      because he sent an intimidating letter to Navarro
      days before it was scheduled to happen.
      http://billstclair.com/ferran/atvtrespass.html

      If this "Ferran" is of Hispanic descent, then he is a
      disgrace and a traitor to his race!!! In our new
      Republic of Aztlan, there will be no room and no
      mercy for such traitors against the Race. "We believe
      that as a people there is no future unless we are
      capable of defining our own national and class
      interests - rising up from underneath a pro-USA frame
      of mind. Mexicanas and Mexicanos living within the
      current borders of the US must break away from the ...
      country and achieve an anti-imperialist,
      independent/indigenous political consensus."
      http://aztlan.net/uniondelbarrio.htm "There is no
      future" for those Hispanics who fail to join our
      "political consensus"!!!

      If this "Ferran" is a gringo, he must agree with
      Adolf Hitler that "In North America" they will
      forever have "a quality of mankind and a civilization
      which are different from those of Central and South
      America."
      http://www.stormfront.org/books/mein_kampf/mkv1ch11.html

      But, white racist Hilter was completely wrong about
      the result of "Latin races who mated with the
      aborigines", because Hitler was just a pandering
      JEWISH politician. The "Aryans" were never destined
      to be the ultimate "Master Race"; that privilege
      belongs to La Raza!!!

      Dr. Armando Navarro teaches us: "When you look at the
      demographic studies when you listened to Dr. Bautista
      yesterday, we are clearly going to be the majority in
      the Southwest in the next fifty - sixty years and
      especially here in California, by the year 2015 we're
      going to be more than fifty percent of the population.
      Ladies and gentlemen, what this means is a transfer
      of power, it means control, it means whose going to
      influence. And it is the young people, the people who
      are now moving to develop an agenda for the twenty
      first century. They are really going to be in a
      position to really make the promise of what the
      Chicano movement was all about in terms of
      self-determination, in terms of empowerment, and even
      in the terms of the idea of an Aztlan!" Feared by
      gringos at:
      http://www.americanpatrol.com/RECONQUISTA/NAVARO.html

      Remember, "Gobernar es poblar"!!! Despite the fake
      "John Wayne" cowboy self-image that some gringos
      feign, once we outnumber them in the voting booth,
      the gringos will not dare to resist our plans!
      http://www.surfsteve.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=571
      ("Will We Fight Civil War II Over The Southwest U.S.?")
      NO! They won't even dare to enforce their own
      immigration laws against us now!!!

      But, if the occasion for fighting is forced upon us,
      our young men are prepared: "Human nature being what
      it is, they become resentful of these affluent
      "gringos." At the same time, their children, who know
      little of Mexico, become even more resentful. The
      world of the illegal alien contains the pathologies
      as well as the strengths of young men. As Hanson puts
      it, 'in the history of civilization it is single
      transient young men who build bridges and roads, but
      also bring societies their crime and violence." Not
      surprisingly, almost a fourth of all inmates in
      California prisons are from Mexico. The author
      describes a series of personal confrontations with
      young illegal aliens who vandalize, steal, and deal
      drugs on his property."
      http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=9480
      Everyone knows our young men in the "united States"
      already know how to hurt the gringos where they live.

      We already know the comfortable TV-raised
      Liberal-educated gringos will not have the guts to
      "fight" us because in a desperate and self-serving
      attempt to oppose our Destiny to become the
      Master-Race in NorthAmerica, white racist Pat
      Buchanan failed miserably in his attempt to stir up
      racial pride among the gringos:

      "Mr. Pat Buchanan is a white racist and a white bigot,
      plain and simple. He is now a 'has been' and is
      simply race baiting and scaring white people in a
      last ditch effort to save his political career. It is
      not going to work. The ex-governor of Alta California,
      Pete (Pito) Wilson, tried the same thing and now he
      is a non-entity. The best that Pat Buchanan should
      hope for is to sell a few of his books to old folks
      in 'white senior care centers' where their ungrateful
      sons and daughters dump them when they are no longer
      productive. Buchanan focuses on La Raza in a chapter
      he titles "La Reconquista" where he contends that an
      invasion of the United States is taking place and
      that America now harbors a 'nation within a nation.'
      We suppose that he means Aztlan. It looks like he
      flunked US History 101 in college because he does not
      seem to know that we had missions, pueblos and
      ranchos around here way before 'gringos' ever came to
      this region. He writes that radical and militant
      Latino and Mexican leaders are conspiring for the
      cultural and demographic recapture of the Southwest
      from America and thus reversing the results of The
      Mexican War. It must be that he wrote the chapter
      before Mayor James Hahn declared Los Angeles a
      Mexican city. Not only is Los Angeles a Mexican city
      but also San Francisco, Santa Barbara, San Diego, San
      Antonio, Santa Fe, El Paso, and countless other
      cities in the southwest. The very names of these
      cities indicate their history. We have been here all
      this time. The only difference is that we as a people
      have now overcome many of the oppressive and racist
      policies that have been imposed on us by the
      'gringos' like the Buchanans and the Wilsons of the
      USA. Perhaps Buchanan should look elsewhere for the
      causes of what he perceives to be 'The Death of the
      West' instead of scapegoating people of color and
      specially us Mexicans in the southwest. Must we
      remind Mr. Buchanan of the causes of the fall of the
      Roman Empire and other civilizations throughout the
      history of the human race. Are we responsible for the
      high homosexual and lesbian rates among white people?
      This is one reason why white people are not
      multiplying. How about the corruption in your highest
      levels of government? (
      http://billstclair.com/ferran/markferran2.html ) ...
      Perhaps the fundamental problem of white people is
      spiritual in nature and it is this that is causing
      'The Death of the West'. The 'West' has lost its
      moral bearings and it is now devoid of spirituality."
      http://aztlan.net/pat.htm

      "The term 'reconquista' is being used strategically
      by the ruling class (Democrats and Republicans) to
      brand our claim on the return of our land as an 'act
      of conquest,' versus an 'act of liberation.'
      Basically, this covers up the fact that people can't
      conquer what is theirs - they liberate it. It
      attempts to turn history upside down by painting
      Mexicanos as invaders, and whites as the oppressed
      indigenous population being stripped of what has
      always been theirs. This is done to deny the reality
      that Mexico is an indigenous nation, and thus they
      conveniently label us as the "foreigners"and
      "conquerors." Union del Barrio sees the land question
      as fundamental to resolving the current conditions
      under which the great majority of nuestro pueblo live
      as a colonized and oppressed population. Far from
      apologizing for our beliefs, our position is that we
      want back the lands that were illegally taken from
      the Mexican nation, and which continue to be
      illegally occupied. Furthermore, we want reparations
      and compensation for the wealth and natural resources
      that have been exploited from these territories and
      from our labor. These demands are based both on
      historical fact and international law."
      http://aztlan.net/uniondelbarrio.htm

      "As the United States declines into oblivion (it will,
      like the former Soviet Union, collapse as a result of
      its corruption) the people of Aztlan will eventually
      be restored to a position of primacy in the region
      which rightfully belongs to them. My current guess is
      that this will probably happen within two decades - a
      blink of an eye in the historical sweep (and will
      happen MUCH earlier in the event of a genuine
      large-scale act of "terrorism" in the North Eastern
      US... in the unlikely event that a nuclear device was
      detonated in New York, for instance, the United
      States would cease to exist with three years)."
      http://aztlan.net/aussieletter.htm

      Apparently, this Mark "Ferran" thinks he can prevent
      the Decline and Fall of "The United States of America"
      into oblivion by trying (in vain) to educate and warn
      the gringo NorteAmericans of the deviance and
      corruption of their government Leaders and their
      People. http://billstclair.com/ferran But, gringo
      NorteAmericanos are just TOO LAZY and TOO STUPID to
      read and to understand what he is trying to explain
      to them.

      La Raza are manifestly superior to the gringo morons
      of in the so-called "United States of America" who
      can't even appreciate and understand their own
      written constitution (www.constitution.org), and do
      not even want the citizenship and power that we plan
      to take from them: http://www.amguard.net

      Does this specimen of the Anglo gene pool look like
      he is a member of a "Master Race" that is capable to
      opposing the Destiny of La Raza in Aztlan???
      http://www.amguard.net/RonDo.jpg

      These are his words: "I am a Natural Born Sovereign
      Person, currently, temporally and by choice a free
      citizen of the sovereign republic of Illinois... I am
      Not a "citizen of the United States" Neither am I a
      "resident" (an alien) of any State (Nation) or of any
      political subdivision thereof. I do not accept any
      contractual obligation or responsibility [of a
      'person' made a 'citizen of the United States' at
      birth] by the 14th Amendment."

      These "I am Not a 'citizen of the United States'"
      gringo imbeciles are our greatest ALLIES other than
      the corrupt government that they pretend to be
      escaping from! These "I am Not a 'citizen of the
      United States'" imbeciles are being manufactured at a
      tidy profit by our friend L.B. Bork at
      www.pacinlaw.org

      What these inbred "Aryan" Anglo morons do not want
      (American "citizenship" and power and responsibility)
      WE WILL TAKE!!!

      Because We La Raza are intellectually and
      reproductively superior to the inbred gringo morons,
      we WILL become their RULERS, and WE WILL GRANT THEM
      THEIR wish to be STRIPPED OF ALL THEIR RIGHTS AND
      "RESPONSIBILITIES" as "citizens" of the so-called
      "United" States of "America"!!!

      Viva La Raza Unida!!! Viva Navarro!!!

      El Tigre

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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 4:51 PM
Subject: Re "Mexican Nazis" of Aztlan.

Dear Liz Michael:
      Vice President of Operations, Analon, Inc.- www.analon.com
      LizMichael.com - Political Activism for the Liberation of the World - www.lizmichael.com
      Liz Michael for United States Senator - www.lizmichael.org
 
I am the Mark "Ferran" referred to in the derogatory manner in the essay sent out by "The Voice of Aztlan" (copied below).
 
Indeed, you are not the first to make the assertion that the Mexican "Nationalists" of "Aztlan" are "Mexican Nazis."   This is indicated by their enthusiastic adoption and distribution of that frightening letter from "El Tigre" of "North" America.  I quoted a guy who said that, in my essay about the "Mexican InfilTraitor" (Navarro) posing as a "humanitarian" at www.billstclair.com/ferran   
 
Remember, the word N-AZI means "National" Socialists.
 
The threat of division and subversion of our country (America) from within is still greater than the threat of conquest from outside: many "Patriot" type Americans are rejecting their country and their Christian constitution because they disaprove of the Kleptocratic (http://www.americanborderalliance.com/LinksNYStateExploitsExcessiveTaxes.htm)  Judicial Oligarchy that has taken over state and federal governments.  Thus, a new industry has arisen, which involves SELLING HATRED for "America" to the most ignorant or desparate (tax-averse) of American citizens:
 
----- Original Message -----
Treason by Anti-"American" L.B.Bork and PACinLaw.org
 
"L.B.Bork," the man behind the curtain at "PACinLAW.org", (the main peddler of "I am not a 'citizen of the United States'" FRAUD ) is engaging in direct attacks against the existence and the sovereignty of the "united" States of America:  L.B. Bork is affirmatively supporting Subversion and Treason against the "American" People, in favor of a FOREIGN "WorldGovernment" takeover of our country.  
 
In addition to weakening our political power as against the ambitious Mexican Nationalists (see below), Brett  "L.B." Bork uses flagrant Lies, gross absurdities, deliberate misinterpretation and Anti-American Rhetoric to convince American citizens to:  "Renounce U.S. Citizenship and/or Become a World Citizen"
 
[Note:  L.B. Bork says: "I do not promote world citizenship, nor do I have control of what people take information and use it for their own purposes."]
 
L.B. Bork goes out of his way to slander the provision of the US Constitution that gives all of us American-born persons a birthright to be "citizens of the United States."  L.B.Bork's Traitorous, Warped, Subversive, and Anti-"American" Lies are already known to be aiding and abetting a political take-over of Aztlan (the US Southwestern states) by ambitious Mexican Nationalists:
The article mentioning L.B.Bork's activities that is posted at http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495;article=48617;show_parent=1  was sent out to a large email list of US Hispanics by "La Voz De Aztlan"  http://aztlan.net on January 14, 2004.
 
It looks like the "Aztlan" Nationalists have finally recognized their natural "allies" within the WACKO traitorous Anti-"American" pseudo-Separatists who despise "America" and pretend that they are not a "citizen of the United States."
 
EXCERPT:
""As the United States declines into oblivion (it will, like the former Soviet Union, collapse as a result of
its corruption) ...   These "I am Not a ‘citizen of the United States’" gringo imbeciles are our greatest ALLIES other than the corrupt government that they pretend to be escaping from! These "I am Not a ‘citizen of the United States’" imbeciles are being manufactured at a tidy profit by our friend L.B. Bork at
www.pacinlaw.org "    http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495;article=48617;show_parent=1
 
 
 
 
"Brotherhood unites us, and love for our brothers makes us a people whose time has come and who struggles against the foreigner [American]"  http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~mecha/plan.html
 
L.B. Bork is also dedicated to helping domestic communists in the Democratic Party to take over control of "the means of production" held in private hands within American corporations, by taking away the constitutional protections that shareholders (you, me, and our 401Ks) enjoy as against state-expropriation of their corporate assets:
 
L.B.Bork seeks to Stop American Resistance to Marxism
 
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 3:04 AM
Subject: L.B.Bork seeks to Stop American Resistance to Marxism

Mr. L. B. Bork of "PAC in Law" has found a devious way to PROFIT from the "RED SCARE" that he promotes.  He teaches American citizens to, 'ABANDON ALL HOPE', 'GIVE UP THE FIGHT,' "DON'T VOTE"  'LET THE MARXIST-DEMOCRATS TAKE CONTROL of the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'  'LET THEM INCREASE FEDERAL INCOME TAXES' 'LET THEM TAKE OVER PRIVATE PROPERTY HELD IN CORPORATIONS' 

For this Advice, L.B. Bork charges his PAC in Law "members" $800 dollars.
 
L.B. Bork's claim that America "IS" a "communist country" today is WISHFUL THINKING on his part.   Bork has positioned himself to profit from all who take his Defeatist Hysterics on face value
 
My property right to arrest and manhandle trespassers on my land is secured by the LAWS of the STATE (See Rights of Landowner to Use Force at www.billstclair.com/ferran ) but it is under constant attack by  idiots (http://www.propertyrightsresearch.org/dear_fellow_property.htm)  and by actual Marxists whom L.B. Bork has dedicated his life to AIDING AND ABETTING.  As a Landowner, it is obvious to me that anyone who tells the people that NOT VOTING AGAINST Marxist-Democrats is a good idea, is an ENEMY TO PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS, and a FRIEND of MARXIST-DEMOCRATS.
 
In Cuba, a state where the Fourteenth Amendment does not apply at all, Fidel Castro maintains Socialism by "retaining the right to expropriate foreign property without due process." http://www.revolutionarycommunistgroup.com/frfi/164/164_cub2.htm
 
But, today, in the united States, "There is no doubt that a corporation may not be deprived of its property without due process of law..."  http://conlaw.usatoday.findlaw.com/constitution/amendment14/18.html#4
 
US Corporations hold much of the private wealth (property) of private American citizens, and therefore represent the "means of production" which Marxist Communists desire to place under the control of the government.  Thus, terminating "corporate protections" secured by the US Constitution is the avowed ambition of the "U.S. Marxist-Leninist Organization"  http://www.usmlo.org/archive2003/2003-09/0736.htm
 
"President Harry Truman ... embraced the idea [of] accusing the Democrats of being 'soft' on Communism."  http://www.english.uiuc.edu/maps/poets/g_l/jerome/smithact.htm   In 1950, some believed that Marxist Communist propagandists were not a "“clear and present danger” to the United States, but the United State government still prosecuted them successfully: 
 
But today Marxist Propagandists are "working with individuals and existing groups to launch democratic insurgencies that put corporations once again subordinate to ... democratic authority..., and strip fundamental powers-such as ... due process-from corporations."  http://www.poclad.org/  They purport to justify this Marxist Revolution over private management of property in terms of ending "the authority of corporations to govern" the "means of production", and to place the means of production under "democratic authority" by "strip[ing away] fundamental [rights] -such as ..due process-from corporations."   "The Communist Party ... was heavily involved with the Progressive movement."  http://www.english.uiuc.edu/maps/poets/g_l/jerome/smithact.htm  "The Communist Party, nevertheless, does not seek its strength primarily in numbers. Its aim is a relatively small party whose strength is in selected, dedicated, indoctrinated, and rigidly disciplined members. ...  It also seeks to infiltrate ... groups." Dennis v. United States (1951)  http://www.tourolaw.edu/patch/Dennis/Jackson.html
 
L. B. Bork is one of the subversives working to abet the Marxists' "Progressive" take-over the Federal Government, and ultimately, to take control of private property held by American citizens (e.g., held within corporations, 401K retirement plans, etc.).  L.B. Bork has admitted that he is dedicated to subverting the Due Process "Protections" for private Property (which is what "corporate" assets are) under the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments to the Constitution.  (see his words below)  I am opposing Bork's agenda and exposing his vicious Lies and his Treasonous subversions.  Therefore, Bork recently complained:

"The facts support that the purpose of the Fourteenth Amendment was to benefit corporations. ...To any that receive this correspondence; this Mark Ferran is attacking me and my work. ... I have deemed him a dangerous person to the movement to restore proper government which includes terminating corporate protections under the 14th amendment." L.B. Bork October 21, 2003  

(See more about Bork copied below)
See also, "The Original Intent of the Fourteenth Amendment" at www.billstclair.com/ferran
 
"Communist systems are premised on the state forcibly depriving owners of all productive assets. Less ambitious socialist systems nationalize only some tools of production, transportation, or communication. Fascism is a system in which title to property remains in private hands, but control is exercised by the state."  http://www.lewrockwell.com/shaffer/shaffer54.html
 
Our Constitution, particularly, the Fourteenth Amendment, stands in opposition to the establishment of such arbitrary governmental control over private corporations and other "private property."
 
"[T]he prohibition against the deprivation of property without due process of law reflects the high value, embedded in our constitutional and political history, that we place on a person's right to enjoy what is his, free of governmental interference." Fuentes v. Shevin, 407 U.S. 67, 82 (1972) (citing Lynch v. Household Finance Corp., 405 U.S. 538).   http://www.geocities.com/towcrime/fuentesvshevin.html
 
By the Due Process of Law Clauses of the Constitution, State and Federal Officials are "absolutely prohibited ... to deprive anyone of life, liberty, or property without due process of law." United States v. Lee, 106 U.S. 196, 220 (1882); Tindale v. Wesley, 167 U.S. 204, 217 (1897). "The enforcement of these limitations by judicial process is the device of self-governing communities to protect the rights of individuals ... as against the violence of public agents transcending the limits of lawful authority, even when acting in the name and wielding the force of the government." Hurtado v. California, 110 U.S. 516, 535-36 (1884).   Part 1 www.billstclair.com/ferran
 
"Although a corporation is the creation of a State, which reserves the power to amend or repeal corporate charters, the retention of such power will not support the taking of corporate property without due process of law."   http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment14/05.html#8
 
"There is no doubt that a corporation may not be deprived of its property without due process of law...."  http://www.eco.freedom.org/ac92/ac92pg1578.shtml
 
"In a case arising under the Fifth Amendment, [the Supreme] Court explicitly declared the United States ''equally with the States . . . are prohibited from depriving persons or corporations of property without due process of law.'' Sinking Fund Cases, 99 U.S. 700, 718-19 (1879)."  http://conlaw.usatoday.findlaw.com/constitution/amendment14/03.html#f57
 
 
L.B. Bork admitted that he wants to put private property held in "corporations" outside the "protections" of the Constitution, and he clearly wants to prevent Anti-Communist American citizens from voting in Federal Elections (so that the "Progressive" Marxist-Democrat "insurgents" can take over the Federal Government and then take over the control of private property).   
 
I certainly am proud to admit and to have it duly noted that I stand opposed to L.B. Bork's subversion of Constitutionally Protected Private Property Rights and opposed to his attempts to neutralize the VOTE of those American Citizens who should be vigorously resisting the Political Efforts of the Marxist-Democrats to take over this Country. 
 
The Fight is NOT OVER!!!!
 
"Mark Ferran has written several good articles on the issue of the defense of land ownership against the state. An example is "PUBLIC COMPLAINT: NY Troopers Inciting Defiant Trespass" that includes many references to background material. (5/1/03)"  http://www.fear.org/opinion.html 
 
See also my articles at http://www.landrights.com
 
I recently attended, and was lauded for my comments at (this year's) Annual Property Rights Conference, last weekend:  http://prfamerica.org/ConferenceIndex.html
 
I did not see L.B. Bork, nor Don Wert, there.  
 
L.B. BORK cares nothing at all about this "country" we call "America".  Bork HATES this Country (America) and is only looking to increases his own profit when he tells you to GIVE UP THE FIGHT AND TO PAY HIM TO TEACH YOU HOW TO HAND OVER THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO THE MARXIST-DEMOCRATS.  BORK IS A TRAITOR, and a CON-MAN who uses a "RED SCARE" to prey upon Patriotic American citizens.
 
Property Rights are defined by the LAW of the States, not by a purported senate resolution from 1933.
 

"STATE LAW determines whether or not a liberty/property interest exists. Federal law defines what process is due. According to the Supreme Court, "property interests . . . are created and their dimensions are defined by existing rules or understandings that stem from an independent source such as state law." Ruckelshaus v. Monsanto Co., 467 U.S. 986 (1984)."

 
"'Property' is more than just the physical thing-the land, the bricks, the mortar-it is also the sum of all the rights and powers incident to ownership of the physical thing. [T]he right to use the physical thing to the exclusion of others is the most essential and beneficial.'"  Dickman v. Commissioner, 465 U.S. 330, 336 (1984).  http://billstclair.com/ferran/righttouseforce.html
 
A reasonable interpretation of the alleged 1933 Senate Resolution is that: 
 
1)  PROPERTY is made valuable by the right to EXCLUSIVE "possession" and "use" of it;
 
2) Property is created or Secured by LAW (e.g., by Governments).  (This is ancient knowledge, See John Locke's 2nd Treatise quoted at "The ATV-Trespass Problem" at www.billstclair.com/ferran  ) ("That a landowner has a legal right to exclude the public is recognized in the sections of New York's Penal Law" http://www.law.cornell.edu/ny/ctap/079_0474.htm ); 
 
3) All private property is "subject" to the state's power of EMINENT DOMAIN" which is a power to TAKE private property When "public necessity" requires it. (This is how the Roman Apian Way was created.  This is how many public highways are created) This Power exists in every government, and is noted in the US Constitution's Fifth Amendment, which prescribes that Private Property Shall Not Be Taken Without Just Compensation.  This topic is discussed in my article "LAW, a Revolutionary Idea For Peace" archived (and first published by) Bob Schulz at  http://www.givemeliberty.org/spotlights/archive/March1999/markferran.htm
 
The United States Supreme Court said, in United States v. Russell [13 Wall, 623, 627] "Private property, the Constitution provides, shall not be taken for public use without just compensation. . . . Extraordinary and unforeseen occasions arise, however;... in cases of extreme necessity, in time of war or immediate and impending public danger, in which private property may be impressed into public service, or may be seized or appropriated to the public use, or may even be destroyed without the consent of the owner. . . ."
 
But, even in such cases of public "necessity", the Constitution declares, "nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation"  Fifth Amendment. http://billstclair.com/ferran/markferran1.html
 
The "Due Process" Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment "incorporates" this right to "Just Compensation" and thus it secures the private property that is held within corporations from being summarily "expropriated" by the state governments.  L.B. Bork wants to change this Law so that Marxists in state governments can seize "corporate" assets without the protection of the Fourteenth Amendment. 
 
Unlike the Due Process of Law Clauses, which absolutely prohibit all arbitrary and unlawful deprivations of life, liberty, and property, it is said that the Takings/Just Compensation Clause of the Fifth Amendment "is designed not to limit the governmental interference with property rights per se, but rather to secure compensation in the event of otherwise proper interference amounting to a taking."  First English Evangelical Lutheran Church of Glendale, v. County of Los Angeles, 482 U.S. 304, 107 S.Ct. 2378 (1987).
 
The Terrible and Ancient power of Eminent Domain is said to be a power inherent in any and all sovereign governments, including the several States:
"The states existed prior to this [US] government. Each of them possessed all the rights and powers which appertain to sovereign and independent nations [e.g., the Power of Eminent Domain]. For all the purposes of self-government, no want of power, or the means of using it, was felt by any of these communities. Life, liberty, reputation, and property, all found an ample protection in the state governments. If any internal improvement were necessary, within its limits, the sovereign power of the state, having entire and uncontrolled jurisdiction, could cause it to be undertaken and effected. For none of these purposes or objects was there a defect of competency in the state governments. "  
 
The Federal  "government is one of limited, delegated powers, and can only act on subjects expressly placed under its control by the Constitution, and upon such other matters as may be necessarily and properly within the sphere of its action, to enable it to carry the enumerated and specified powers into execution, and without which the powers granted would be inoperative." 
 
Yet, the Federal Government has been granted, by the Fourteenth Amendment, the Power to Secure Private Property from Unauthorized Deprivations, if only the People would DEMAND that it do so. (See Part 1 and Part 2 at www.billstclair.com/ferran )
 
The Federal Government has NO authority to interfere with the Law of the States over the definition of private property, except to restrain the states from violating private property rights.
 
 
 
The Fourteenth Amendment does not make it a "CRIME" to VOTE.  L.B. BORK IS A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR.  Bork says that Section 2 of the Fourteenth Amendment means: "the right to vote at any election is denied except for participation in rebellion, or other crime" (ellipsis omitted from quote of Bork)
 
Section 2 of the Fourteenth Amendment ordains:
"Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each state, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the executive and judicial officers of a state, or the members of the legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such state, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such state."
 
In summary, States that have "in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime" "the right" (to vote) of "any male inhabitants of such state" shall have their representation in the House of Representatives reduced accordingly.  Thus, the 14h Amendment tends to SECURE "the right" of male inhabitants of such a state who are "citizens of the United States" to Vote in STATE AND FEDERAL ELECTIONS, except those males who participated "rebellion, or other crime." 
Therefore, L.B. Bork is nothing but a pathetic LIAR.
 
Most states do not allow incarcerated criminals (e.g., felons are traditionally "disenfranchised" upon conviction) to vote, but according to this provision of the US constitution, the State's representation in the House of Representatives is not diminished for the reason that it disenfranchises criminals from Voting.  L.B. Bork distinctly asserted on October 21, 2003 that it states "in the [Fourteenth] amendment that it is a crime to vote. "
 
L.B. Bork is a Pathological LIAR. 
 
How does anyone take seriously a man like L.B. Bork who asserts that the Constitution makes it "a crime to vote" in state or federal elections?  I just don't understand how he can get anyone to pay him money for his ridiculous advice.  There must be some really very stupid and hateful people in this Country.  I do tend to agree that those very stupid people have a right to and should renounce their US citizenship.  They are an embarrassment to this country.  And I think it would be good if such very stupid people did not Vote, because they would probably vote for the Marxist-Progressive Agenda (against private property held in corporations) that L.B. Bork promotes.
 
Title 8 of the United States Code prescribes who, "shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth"   http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/1401.html
 
Title 8 also prescribes who "shall be nationals, but not citizens, of the United States at birth"  http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/1408.html
 
 
Anyone who does not want to be an American citizen, or an American "National" is entitled, and free to renounce his citizenship by following the procedure outlined at: http://www.irs.gov/formspubs/page/0,,id=10664,00.html 
 
See Title 8 sec. 1481  "A person who is a national of the United States whether by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by voluntarily performing any of the following acts with the intention of relinquishing United States nationality...." http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/1481.html
 
One automatically looses his US citizenship by:
"committing any act of treason against, or attempting by force to overthrow, or bearing arms against, the United States, violating or conspiring to violate any of the provisions of section 2383 of title 18, or willfully performing any act in violation of section 2385 of title 18, or violating section 2384 of title 18 by engaging in a conspiracy to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, if and when he is convicted thereof by a court martial or by a court of competent jurisdiction."  http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/1481.html
 
Specifically:
"Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government" http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/2385.html "shall lose his nationality" http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/1481.html

"Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so" http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/2385.html "shall lose his nationality" http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/1481.html

"Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof" http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/2385.html "shall lose his nationality" http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/1481.html

Thus, it is not difficult to loose or renounce one's "American" Nationality or Citizenship, and it is not necessary to PAY L.B. Bork $400 or $800 to teach you how to do it.  Incidentally, Communists who "conspired . . . to organize as the Communist Party and willfully to advocate and teach the principles of Marxism-Leninism," which the government alleged to mean "overthrowing and destroying the government of the United States by force and violence" at some unspecified future time, have been convicted of violating this Law, and of loosing their American citizenship, and the United States Supreme Court upheld the convictions by a vote of six (including four Truman appointees) to two..  http://www.english.uiuc.edu/maps/poets/g_l/jerome/smithact.htm  and http://www.umt.edu/journalism/student_resources/class_web_sites/media_law/sedition.html   In Dennis v. United States6 The Supreme Court upheld "the convictions of eleven Communist Party leaders on charges of conspiracy to violate the advocacy and organizing sections of the statute." http://www.eco.freedom.org/ac92/ac92pg1068.shtml   Thus, our Laws are opposed to Communism in its raw and virulent forms. 

L.B. Bork wants American Citizens to STOP resisting the Marxist Communists, by refraining from VOTING AGAINST THEM in FEDERAL ELECTIONS.  This, L.B. Bork is aiding and abetting the Marxist-Communist-Progressive "insurgents" whose Doctrines deriding the Constitutional Protection of Private Property held in corporations he ADOPTS, PROMOTES, AND ENDORSES. 

People own corporations, and corporate assets are private property and are protected by the Constitution (e.g., Fourteenth Amendment).  I am a defender of private property rights; L.B. Bork seeks to make property (at least within corporations) less secure.   Below, L.B. Bork further demonstrates that his ultimate aim is not only to enrich himself at the expense of desperate Tax-averse "American citizens", but also to Aide and Abet the Marxists (Democrats) in the United States who seek to undermine and to abolish the Institution of Private Property in these united States. L.B. Bork has admitted that he is not only dedicated to the Leftist goal of neutralizing the Vote of Anti-Communist "American citizens" in Federal Elections, but also dedicated to the Leftist goal of "terminating corporate protections [for their private property] under the 14th amendment."

The Due Process of Law Clauses of the Fifth Amendment and of the Fourteenth Amendment extend their "protections" to the PRIVATE PROPERTY of private individuals, even when that private property is held within business "corporations." See Part 1 at www.billstclair.com/ferran <http://www.billstclair.com/ferran>

The Due Process Clauses (of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments) are the primary obstacles to the Marxist ambitions of Democrats.com and other Leftists to abolish the private property rights of landowners and of corporate shareholders, and to expropriate corporately held private property. Therefore, a Con-Man like L.B. Bork, who is dedicated to "terminating corporate protections under the 14th amendment" is an Abettor of the Marxist (Democrat.com) Agenda in the United States.

US Corporations hold the private wealth (property) of American citizens, and therefore represent the "means of production" which Marxist Communists desire to place under the control of the government. Thus, terminating "corporate protections" secured by the US Constitution is the avowed ambition of the "U.S. Marxist-Leninist Organization" <http://www.usmlo.org/archive2003/2003-09/0736.htm>

Bork states:

"The facts support that the purpose of the Fourteenth Amendment was to benefit corporations. ...To any that receive this correspondence; this Mark Ferran is attacking me and my work. ... I have deemed him a dangerous person to the movement to restore proper government which includes terminating corporate protections under the 14th amendment." LB Bork October 21, 2003  

Indeed, Mark R. Ferran BSEE scl JD mcl is an opponent of L.B. Bork's Marxist-Progressive "movement" to "terminate ... protections [of PRIVATE PROPERTY] under the 14th amendment."
 
(See more about Bork copied below) 

IF YOU HATE THIS COUNTRY AND (CORPORATE) PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS AS MUCH AS L.B. BORK and his Cult Members do, then I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO RENOUNCE YOUR US CITIZENSHIP AND LEAVE THIS COUNTRY

And, if you think you value the Institution of Private Property somewhat but are too much of a coward or a FOOL to VOTE against Marxist Progressives in Federal Elections, or to otherwise FIGHT THE FIGHT of resistance to Marxism, then JUST LEAVE!!!

MARK R. FERRAN BSEE scl JD mcl
 
My public "references":
 
"Mark Ferran is a prominent legal analyst and essayist."

http://www.trumpetamerica.org/Step07.txt

"Mark Ferran has written several good articles on the issue of the defense of land ownership."

http://www.fear.org/opinion.html

"Mark Ferran has done good work on property rights."

http://www.constitution.org/cs_peopl.htm

"Landowner Mark Ferran wants ATV-riders to stay off his property. This week Mark Ferran laid down the law. Specifically, he taped it up at Town Hall, the local library and the general store."

Albany Times Union, STAKES RAISED IN ATV FIGHT, 05/23/2002

"Sign me up for the Mark Ferran fan club; the man is a hero."

Fred LeBrun, Albany Times Union Political Commentator http://www.timesunion.com/archives/summarylist.asp?DBQUERY=Mark+Ferran++&DBLIST=al01&SORT=d%3Ah&NITEMS=25&qtype=q_string

Even some NY ATV-riders agree: "He's no dummy and he does have a BIG problem with trespassers. I think our guy may be a fan of his. Ferrans' father, Rocco Ferran, was a very respected local politician in the 70's in that county. Mr. Ferran is not our enemy. He wants his rights protected, same as we want ours."

http://stillwaterreservoir.com/wwwboard/messages/1517.html

----- Original Message -----

Subject:  THE "P" WORD ["Progressive?" or "PAC in Law" ]

THE "P" WORD
By Randy Thomasson
October 22, 2003

Randy Thomasson is founder and executive director of Campaign for California Families (CCF), a leading pro-family organization on the West Coast.
 

Liberal activists in the Democratic Party, like to call themselves “progressive” because they think it sounds better than “liberal.” And the liberal media is picking up on it, using the “p” word more frequently. Yet what is progressive, and what is conservative, and which do people really prefer? From my 10 years of pro-family leadership in the nation's largest state, here’s what I’ve observed:

1. Your Money: Progressives believe that government needs more tax money to create a better society. Conservatives believe that individuals, families and businesses will have a better chance to thrive if they keep more of their own money.

2. Religious Freedom: Progressives believe that abortion, evolution, homosexuality and transsexuality are superior to the rights of religious citizens. Conservatives believe that religious freedom is a sacred right of conscience and protected in the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

3. Life: Progressives believe that unwanted life in the womb is tissue that should be aborted, even at taxpayer expense, through all nine months of pregnancy. Conservatives believe the scientific evidence that an unborn baby is an innocent human being that deserves protection.

4. Education: Progressives believe that schoolchildren should not receive letter grades or have to pass exit exams, that good teachers should not receive merit pay, and that parents should not have the right to choose their own child's school. Conservatives believe that rigorous academic standards, classroom discipline and parental choice in education are key components of training up the next generation.

5. Parental Rights: Progressives believe that the government has rights over children and should give kids condoms, abortions, psychotropic drugs and homosexual education without parental permission. Conservatives believe that children belong to their parents, not to the state.

6. Crime: Progressives believe that people aren't responsible for the crimes they commit, but that poverty and environmental reasons make them do it. Conservatives believe that people make moral choices and criminals are responsible for their own conduct.

7. Marriage: Progressives believe that marriage can be for two homosexuals, and "gay marriage" is what society needs. Conservatives believe that the rights and privileges of marriage are only for a married man and a woman.

8. Human Value: Progressives believe that plants and animals are more important than the needs of humans. Conservatives believe that human needs for housing, for example, are superior to plants, kangaroo rats and red-legged frogs.

9. Transsexuality: Progressives believe that government should approve of sex-change operations and punish businesses that don't want to hire cross-dressers. Conservatives believe that you are born male or female, not in-between.

10. Home Defense: Progressives believe that gun ownership should be illegal or extremely limited and that gun manufacturers should be punished when an innocent person is killed a criminal with a gun. Conservatives believe that owning a gun is becoming increasingly necessary to defend your home, that if guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns, and that criminals who misuse guns are the ones who should be punished.

11. Obscenity: Progressives believe that public nudity and obscenity on TV are protected free speech. Conservatives believe that indecent behavior is bad for society, and in many cases is or should be prohibited for the sake of children and adults alike.

12. English Language: Progressives believe that there should be no national language and that the government should print documents in multiple languages. Conservatives believe that there should be a common language, and because this is America, that language is English.

As you can see, most conservative values are compatible with family values. I think it's time to accurately define "progress." To me, progress has always been about "getting to where you want to be" and "strengthening the things that are good." Yet with liberal progressives trashing nearly every cultural tradition and sacred institution they can lay their hands on, it can be legitimately said that progressives are regressive and, ultimately, destructive.
 
[The RIGHT to participate in YOUR governments decisions is one you will lose if you don't use it.]
Copyright 2003 Campaign for California Families
 
ADD to this the Leftist's views of Private Property managed by corporations:
 
13. PRIVATE PROPERTY HELD IN CORPORATIONS: The avowed ambition of Progressives (Marxists) is terminating "corporate protections" secured by the US Constitution as stated in the writings of the "U.S. Marxist-Leninist Organization"  http://www.usmlo.org/archive2003/2003-09/0736.htm   Marxist Propagandists are "working with individuals and existing groups to launch democratic insurgencies that put corporations once again subordinate to ... democratic authority..., and strip fundamental powers-such as ... due process-from corporations."  http://www.poclad.org/  They purport to justify this Marxist Revolution over private management of property in terms of ending "the authority of corporations to govern" the "means of production", and to place the means of production under "democratic authority" by "strip[ing away] fundamental [rights] -such as ..due process-from corporations."
 
L.B. Bork and his "PAC in Law" cult members are among the "individuals and existing groups" who are launching "insurgencies that put corporations once again subordinate to ... democratic authority..., and strip fundamental powers-such as ..due process-from corporations."   But L.B. Bork's insideous Role is to NEUTRALIZE THE VOTES and activism of "American citizens" who would otherwise naturally resist the Marxist-Progresive assault upon the Wealth and Morals of this Country.  L.B. Bork tells "US citizens" to STOP VOTING IN FEDERAL ELECTIONS AGAINST anything that is contrary to their interests.  L.B. Bork calls this process "Emancipat[ing] your self from [your] federal government" so that the Progressives/Democrats/Marxists can take it over and abolish the Private Property Rights of People who own shares of Corporations.
 
L.B. Bork is dedicated to the destruction of the Constitutional "protections" that prevent the Marxist expropriation or control of the private PROPERTY which corporations hold and manage for the benefit of their shareholders (We the People).  L.B. Bork is effectively a Marxist (Democrat), and he buys into the  Marxist Propaganda that all Capitalists (e.g., corporate shareholders) are scum, but he is simply too ignorant to understand (or too greedy to admit) the implications of his dedication to destroying "protections" for private property held within corporations:

From: L.B

Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 4:26 PM

Subject: RE: US citizens

Did you read the law reviews on the Fourteenth Amendment? Probably not. The facts support that the purpose of the Fourteenth Amendment was to benefit corporations.  ...  The plain and simple fact is: YOU ARE DUMB AS A POST.  “The Capitalists are the Communists and the Communists are the Capitalists.”

----- Original Message -----
From: L.B
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 10:39 PM
Subject: RE: Frauds that L.B. Bork perpetrates against US citizens -Rough Draft.

To any that receive this correspondence; this Mark Ferran is attacking me and my work. ...  I have deemed him a dangerous person to the movement to restore proper government which includes terminating corporate protections under the 14th amendment."

LB Bork

The very First Plank of Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto is: "Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to [government, not private] purposes."  "American Communists, Socialists and Liberals have worked very hard to force central planning on farmers. They have been very successful through regulations aimed at destroying the small independent family owned farm.  Only the large corporations have the capability, the man-power to research and obey all of the millions of federal regulations."  Therefore, all that the American Communists, Socialists and Liberals need to do now in order to centralize governmental control over private property (land) and the means of agricultural production, is to "eliminat[e] the corporate protections under the 14th amendment."  Once they destroy the property rights of persons (e.g., property held within corporations) that are now secured by the Law Clauses of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments, there will be nothing to stand in the way of complete governmental expropriation of Private Property and the application of all its profits to government purposes.  L.B. Bork has admitted that he is dedicated to this final subversive step to advance the objectives of the American Communists, Socialists and Liberals.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 2:18 AM
Subject: Re: Frauds that L.B. Bork perpetrates against US citizens -UPDATE

Folks:
 
Below, L.B. Bork further demonstrates that his ultimate aim is not only to enrich himself at the expense of desparate Tax-averse "American citizens", but also to Aide and Abet the Marxists (Democrats) in the United States who seek to undermine and to abolish the Institution of Private Property in these united States.  L.B. Bork has admitted that he is not only dedicated to the Leftist goal of neutralizing the Vote of Anti-Communist "American citizens" in Federal Elections, but also dedicated to the Leftist goal of "terminating corporate protections [for their private property] under the 14th amendment."  
 
The Due Process of Law Clauses of the Fifth Amendment and of the Fourteenth Amendment extend their "protections" to the PRIVATE PROPERTY of private individuals, even when that private property is held within business "corporations."  See Part 1 at www.billstclair.com/ferran
 
In Cuba, a state where the Fourteenth Amendment does not apply at all, Fidel Castro maintains Socialism by "retaining the right to expropriate foreign property without due process." http://www.revolutionarycommunistgroup.com/frfi/164/164_cub2.htm
 
The Due Process Clauses (of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments) are the primary obstacles to the Marxist ambitions of Democrats.com and other Leftists to abolish the private property rights of landowners and of corporate shareholders, and to expropriate corporately held private property.  Therefore, a Con-Man like L.B. Bork, who is dedicated to "terminating corporate protections under the 14th amendment" is an Abettor of the Marxist (Democrat.com) Agenda in the United States.
 
US Corporations hold the private wealth (property) of American citizens, and therefore represent the "means of production" which Marxist Communists desire to place under the control of the government.  Thus, terminating "corporate protections" secured by the US Constitution is the avowed ambition of the "U.S. Marxist-Leninist Organization"  http://www.usmlo.org/archive2003/2003-09/0736.htm
 
The very First Plank of Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto is: "Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to [government, not private] purposes."  "American Communists, Socialists and Liberals have worked very hard to force central planning on farmers. They have been very successful through regulations aimed at destroying the small independent family owned farm.  Only the large corporations have the capability, the man-power to research and obey all of the millions of federal regulations."  Therefore, all that the American Communists, Socialists and Liberals need to do now in order to centralize governmental control over private property (land) and the means of agricultural production, is to "eliminat[e] the corporate protections under the 14th amendment."  Once they destroy the property rights of persons (e.g., property held within corporations) that are now secured by the Law Clauses of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments, there will be nothing to stand in the way of complete governmental expropriation of Private Property and the application of all its profits to government purposes.  L.B. Bork has admitted that he is dedicated to this final subversive step to advance the objectives of the American Communists, Socialists and Liberals.
 
Marxists have always paid particular attention to the expropriation of private property in LAND, particularly land in Farms.  I happen to be Half-Ukrainian by Blood. My mother, born in this county, is full-blooded Ukrainian. My mother Nadia (which means "Hope") always told me that the Ukraine was known as the "breadbasket" of Europe, because of the productivity of its privately managed farms.  See "Remembering Ukraine's Unknown Holocaust" http://www.twf.org/News/Y1998/19981213-UkraineHolocaust.html ("In 1932, Soviet leader Josef Stalin unleashed genocide in Ukraine. Stalin determined to force Ukraine's millions of independent farmers - called `kulaks'- into collectivized Soviet agriculture, and to crush Ukraine's growing spirit of nationalism.")  During the era of Soviet Communist Government-controlled Farms in the Ukraine, they were rife with inefficiency and corruption. "The Ukrainian economy was in shambles" But after the fall of the Communist regime, the Ukrainian people are today struggling to restore the prosperity that private property and private management of farm once provided them. http://www.givehope.org/changed_hearts/nadia_transform.htm and http://www.usukraine.org/cpp/partners/part9912sp/results.html
 
In December 2001 the Farm Bureau and corporate landowners launched a lawsuit suit against one of America's many protectionist anti-capitalist township governments, with no subtlety in the language of the complaint: "The Township does not have the authority...to prohibit or regulate corporate ownership or operation of farmland or farming operations...  Giving preference to 'family' farmers and banning 'corporate' farming violates the PA and U.S. Constitutions in several respects, including without limitation, equal protection, due process, taking without just compensation, and rights guaranteed under the commerce clauses...The regulation is unconstitutional [by force of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States]."
 
The Constitutional guarantee of Due Process of Law in the Fifth Amendment (1791) had long been viewed as a limitation upon the kind of extreme government "interference" with and control over private "property" which the American Marxists now seek to assert over the "means of production" held in private corporations, by abolishing the Constitutional Protection of that Private Property.
 
"The dictionary definition of socialism is a system that calls for "public ownership of the means of production." Public ownership can only mean State ownership; there is simply no other practical way for this to occur. No one is going to give up his right to ownership except by force and the only way force can be brought to bear is by government, which is, by definition, legalized force. Therefore both Nazism and Communism, in order to carry out their respective agendas, require a forceful authoritarian government since to give up property voluntarily is simply against human nature. You might say that both systems are on the left, you may say that both systems are authoritarian, take your pick.   ...   Socialism is very much like the old Czarist system and all other Monarchal systems where the government, in the person of the King, controls everything and is supposed to act in the interest of "the people." Don't you see? Socialism is a regression back to the days of absolute rule except instead of having a Monarch claiming divine right, you have a "dictatorship of the proletariat" claiming to act in the name of science. For centuries, people have been duped into surrendering their property and their freedoms to the state and have become serfs."  http://www.chuckmorse.com/dialogue_with_a_leftist.html
 
The Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments have stood as barriers against the usurpation of Marxist-Socialist control over the private property of individuals privately held and managed within corporations.
 
"The same [generous] construction which is required for the protection of life and liberty, in all particulars in which life and liberty are of any value, should be applied to the protection of private property. If the legislature of a State, under pretence of providing for the public good, or for any other reason, can determine, against the consent of the owner, the uses to which private property shall be devoted, or the prices which the owner shall receive for its uses, it can deprive him of the property as completely as by a special act for its confiscation or destruction.  ...  There is nothing in the character of the business of the defendants as warehousemen which called for the interference complained of in this case. Their buildings are not nuisances; their occupation of receiving and storing grain infringes upon no rights of others, disturbs no neighborhood, infects not the air, and in no respect prevents others from using and enjoying their property as to them may seem best. The legislation in question is nothing less than a bold assertion of absolute power by the State to control at its discretion the property and business of the citizen, and fix the compensation he shall receive. The will of the legislature is made the condition upon which the owner shall receive the fruits of his property and the just reward of his labor, industry, and enterprise. 'That government,' says Story, 'can scarcely be deemed to be free where the rights of property are left solely dependent upon the will of a legislative body without any restraint. The fundamental maxims of a free government seem to require that the rights of personal liberty and private property should be held sacred.' Wilkeson v. Leland, 2 Pet. 657."  Justice Field, dissenting.  http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?navby=case&court=us&vol=94&invol=113
 
"Corporations .--Although a corporation is the creation of a State, which reserves the power to amend or repeal corporate charters, the retention of such power will not support the taking of corporate property without due process of law. Foreign (out-of-state) corporations also enjoy the protection which the due process clause affords, but such protection does not entitle them to the unconditional right to enter another State or, once having been permitted to enter, to continue to do business therein. There is language in the early cases suggesting that the power of a State to exclude or to expel a foreign corporation is almost plenary."   http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment14/05.html#8
 
"The equal protection clause, which was also brought to bear on the economic legislation of the states, was held to invalidate restraints on corporations from which other businesses were exempted. In several early cases this clause was used to foster individual economic rights, with the court striking down state laws that prevented aliens from pursuing certain occupations. ...  The states, it was also held, might meet the requirements of equal protection even if distinctions based upon “reasonable classifications” were made. Thus, corporations, with their great potential power and size, might reasonably be subjected to more severe restrictions than other types of business organizations. While the states were given greater freedom in enacting economic legislation, their power to limit personal liberties was brought under greater restraint."  http://www.bartleby.com/65/fo/Fourteenth.html
 
In Kentucky Railroad Tax Cases the argument again was made that confiscatory and unequal taxes violated a railroad’s property rights. The argument was also made - for at least the third time before the Supreme Court – that corporations are persons under the Fourteenth Amendment. The corporate legal campaign to gain ‘personhood’ status finally succeeded when the report of the opinion in Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific. R.R. contained a statement purportedly made by Chief Justice Waite before oral argument that "[t]he court does not wish to hear argument on the question whether the provision in the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution, which forbids a State to deny any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws, applies to these corporations. We are all of the opinion that it does.”
 
Individuals who choose (their Liberty) to pool their private Property resources together in order to use synergy to create more than they could accomplish individually managing their property, are not bound to do so only by resort to cumbersome "partnerships."  Thus, the private "shareholders" who jointly own all the assets and means of production held in a business corporation are entitled to appoint Boards to represent them in the management of this private property.  "The right of voting for representatives is the primary right by which all other rights are protected. To take away this right is to reduce a man to slavery...." -- Thomas Paine  PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL HUMAN PERSONS DO NOT LOOSE THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL DUE PROCESS RIGHTS IN THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY JUST BECAUSE THEY POOL THAT PRIVATE PROPERTY TOGETHER AND APPOINT REPRESENTATIVES TO MANAGE IT ON THEIR BEHALF WITHIN THE STRUCTURE OF A CORPORATION !!!
 
"In a case arising under the Fifth Amendment, [the Supreme] Court explicitly declared the United States ''equally with the States . . . are prohibited from depriving persons or corporations of property without due process of law.'' Sinking Fund Cases, 99 U.S. 700, 718-19 (1879)."  http://conlaw.usatoday.findlaw.com/constitution/amendment14/03.html#f57

Constitutional Protections for Corporations:

"Although a corporation is not a 'citizen' under the privileges and immunities clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, a corporation may exercise some of the constitutional protections granted to natural persons:

"Right to Due Process and Equal Protection: Corporations enjoy the right to equal protection and due process of law under the Fourteenth and Fifth Amendments to the U.S. Constitution and under similar provisions of the California Constitution.

"Freedom of Speech: Absent some narrowly drawn restrictions serving compelling state interests, corporations have the right to express themselves on matters of public importance whether or not those issues "materially affect" corporate business.

"Right to Counsel: While a corporation cannot be imprisoned, a criminal action can result in fines and other penalties that could harm shareholders, officers, and other persons. Thus, a corporate criminal defendant has a Sixth Amendment to a Right to Counsel. But note, because a corporation faces no risk of incarceration, it has no right to appointed counsel if it cannot afford to retain private counsel

"No Privilege Against Self-Incrimination: Corporations have no privilege against self-incrimination (e.g. to prevent disclosure of incriminating corporate records)."

http://www.mycorporation.com/Corporation.htm

"[A] municipal corporation cannot invoke the clause against its State."  http://conlaw.usatoday.findlaw.com/constitution/amendment14/18.html#4
 
"Notwithstanding the historical controversy that has been waged concerning whether the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment intended the word ''person'' to mean only natural persons, or whether the word was substituted for the word ''citizen'' with a view to protecting corporations from oppressive state legislation,56 the Supreme Court, as early as the Granger Cases,57 decided in 1877, upheld on the merits various state laws without raising any question as to the status of railway corporation plaintiffs to advance due process contentions. There is no doubt that a corporation may not be deprived of its property without due process of law..."  http://conlaw.usatoday.findlaw.com/constitution/amendment14/18.html#4
 
"In Chicago, M. & St. P. Ry. Co. v. Minnesota, 134 U.S. 418, 458 , 10 S. Sup. Ct. 462, 702, it was said: 'If the company is deprived of the power of charging reasonable rates for the use of its property, and such deprivation takes place in the absence of an investigation by judicial machinery, it is deprived of the lawful use of its property, and thus, in substance and effect, of the property itself, without due process of law, and in violation of the constitution of the United States; and, in so far as it is thus deprived, while other persons are permitted to receive reasonable profits upon their invested capital, the company is deprived of the equal protection of the laws.' "
 
"In Reagan v. Trust Co., 154 U.S. 362, 399 , 14 S. Sup. Ct. 1047, [the US Supreme] court, after referring to the above cases, said: 'These cases all support the proposition that ... it is within the scope of judicial power, and a part of judicial duty, to restrain anything which, in the form of a regulation of rates, operates to deny to the owners of property invested in the business of transportation that equal protection which is the constitutional right of all owners of other property. There is nothing new or strange in this. It has always been a part of the judicial function to determine whether the act of one party (whether that party be a single individual, an organized body, or the public as a whole) operates to devest the other party of any rights of person or property. In every constitution is the guaranty against the taking of private property for public purposes without just compensation. The equal protection of the laws, which, by the fourteenth amendment, no state can deny to the individual, forbids legislation, in whatever form it may be enacted, by which the property of one individual is, without compensation, wrested from him for the benefit of another, or of the public. This, as has been often observed, is a government of law, and not a government of men, and it must never be forgotten that under such a government, with its constitutional limitations and guaranties, the forms of law and the machinery of government, with all their reach and power, must, in their actual workings, stop on the hither side of the unnecessary and uncompensated taking or destruction of any private property legally acquired and legally held."
 
Thus, the US Constitution, particularly, the Fourteenth Amendment, stands defiantly in the way of the Marxists (Democrats.com) who now seek to overthrow private (e.g., "corporate") control of the "means of production" (e.g., land and other private property) in America today.  A large proportion of farmed LAND in the united States today is held and managed as private property by Family Partnerships, "Family Corporations" and other business "corporations." 
 
No wonder L.B. Bork is dedicated to "terminating corporate protections under the 14th amendment."
 
A "Con-Man" Offers for Sale what He Cannot Deliver (e.g., Immunity from Federal Income Tax through pretending to renounce birthright 'US citizen' status while remaining in the US and enjoying its common defenses). 
 
A "Traitor" makes his money by weakening his Country's common defenses (e.g., Due Process of Law) against its' Enemies (Marxist Democrats/Communists) foreign and domestic.
 
L.B. Bork is a Con-Man and a Traitor.
 
For further information about L.B. Bork's Deceit, Fraud, and Treason please contact me at mferran@nycap.rr.com
 
Mark R. Ferran BSEE scl JD mcl
 
My public "references":
 
"Mark Ferran is a prominent legal analyst and essayist."

http://www.trumpetamerica.org/Step07.txt

"Mark Ferran has written several good articles on the issue of the defense of land ownership."

http://www.fear.org/opinion.html

"Mark Ferran has done good work on property rights."

http://www.constitution.org/cs_peopl.htm

"Landowner Mark Ferran wants ATV-riders to stay off his property. This week Mark Ferran laid down the law. Specifically, he taped it up at Town Hall, the local library and the general store."

Albany Times Union, STAKES RAISED IN ATV FIGHT, 05/23/2002

"Sign me up for the Mark Ferran fan club; the man is a hero."

Fred LeBrun, Albany Times Union Political Commentator  http://www.timesunion.com/archives/summarylist.asp?DBQUERY=Mark+Ferran++&DBLIST=al01&SORT=d%3Ah&NITEMS=25&qtype=q_string

Even some NY ATV-riders agree: "He's no dummy and he does have a BIG problem with trespassers. I think our guy may be a fan of his. Ferrans' father, Rocco Ferran, was a very respected local politician in the 70's in that county. Mr. Ferran is not our enemy. He wants his rights protected, same as we want ours."

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Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 9:22 PM
Subject: Frauds that L.B. Bork perpetrates against US citizens -Rough Draft.

Mr. Bork:  This is an outline of the Report I will be publishing.  This follow after giving you a full and fair opportunity to respond to my charges and to be heard and to give complete explanations in his defense.  You may still comment at this time, if you think there are any errors in my statements and conclusions.
 
[Mr. Bork:  A "hearing" is where the accused is given an opportunity to be "heard."  And, you have been heard.  You tried to attack me in my associations.  I responded.  Now you say you want to slander me with your nonsensical accusations.  What you will discover is that people with normal intelligence will reject what you are saying as absurd and untrue, and view you as less credible than before.  Those who are completely your intellectual property, because they are weak-minded, or for whatever reason they join cults such as yours, will accept what you say without even understanding it.  It is pathetic, and sad, but that is what most of humanity is.]
 
[Mr. Bork: Whatever may be the condition or direction of this country, (I note it is not your country), you are not helping anyone here but yourself.  You are not taking money to help people RESIST the Marxists (Democrats), you are taking money to nutralize the Vote of natural enemies of Marxists.  For your information, private business Corporations are Private Property of individuals, and so a legal "benefit" or protection for "corporations" is a detriment to "Communists" who want to place all means of production (e.., corporate assets) into the government's hands.  The Marxists (Democrats) hate "corporations" just as you seem to.  Since when do non-marxists think that private business (corporations) are a bad thing for society?  Obviously, you are a Marxist sypathizer, if not a pure Marxist in wolf's clothing.]
 
L.B. Bork is simply playing off of people's fears, of communism and of corporations, when the two are natural enemies.  That is clever on his part, or maybe it is evidence that there are "thousands" of people who are just too desparate and weak-minded to understand the absurdities of what he is saying.  Obviously, if he has found "thousands" of people who hate their "country" (America) as much as he does, then he probably have a few Marxist communists among them, just laughing their asses off at how stupid the rest of his paid "members" are for materially advance the cause of the Marxist Democrats.   How many dumb asses have paid for "membership" in his treasonous cult?  Probably a small fraction of those who subscribe to his newsletter.
 
He asserts nonsensically that I am a "Communist" while I am the strongest advocate and Defender of PRIVATE PROPERTY rights that has ever wasted his time trying to educate Bork's victims.  I did not see him at the National Property Rights Conference I attended this weekend.  I don't see him doing anything for private property other than taking people's money to sell them his flavor of Treason.   Predators like him are the ENEMY of Private Property, because they advocate the complete destruction (not the improvement or reform) of the great American institutions that were ordained by the American People to "SECURE" private property.
 
Contrary to what Mr. Bork says, it does not state in the 14th Amendment (http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.amendmentxiv.html)  that in general "it is a crime to vote".  One wonders if he is even more illiterate than he is a Traitor???  Section 2 states that: "when the right to vote at any election ... of a state... is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such state, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the [State's] basis of representation [in the US House of Representatives] shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such state."
 
"The first section [of the Fourteenth Amendment] defines who is a citizen of the United States and establishes that no state can enact laws that abridge certain rights of its citizens or persons within the jurisdiction of the United States. This section contains the due process and equal protection clauses and has had a notable impact on federal, state and local law in the United States; including the selective prosecution defense. Prior to the adoption of this amendment, the United States Bill of Rights so famously cherished by U.S. citizens acted only as a restraint on federal, not state, governments. Until that time states' control over its citizens was legally restrained only by that state's constitution and laws. Many of these states modeled their constitution and laws after the federal government of the United States, but state constitutions did not necessarily entail provisions like the Bill of Rights. With the adoption of this amendment and this section in particular, southern states were legally obligated to recognize certain rights of freed slaves. In response, southern states drew up Jim Crow and similar laws to perpetuate racial discrimination in the south. The expansion of "fundamental rights" under the Due Process clause was not anticipated by its sponsors. Yet under this clause the United States Supreme Court has recognized such rights as the right to abortion, the right to contraceptives, the right to medical treatment, and the right to marry.  The second section [of the Fourteenth Amendment] establishes rules for the apportioning of representatives in Congress to states, essentially making the proportion of that state's representation equal to that state's proportion of the nation's population excluding males under the age of 21, the disenfranchised, and Indians who do not pay taxes.  The third section [of the Fourteenth Amendment] prevents the election of any person to the Congress or Electoral College who has engaged in insurrection, rebellion, or treason. A two-thirds vote by Congress can override this limitation, however."
 
Thus, the "penalty" of Section Two is laid against a State that DENIES to any "male inhabitants of such state [who are] twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States."    Thus, the 14h Amendment tends to SECURE the right of male inhabitants of such state who are "citizens of the United States" to Vote in STATE AND FEDERAL ELECTIONS, unless such males participated "rebellion, or other crime."   Therefore, L.B. Bork is nothing but a pathetic LIAR.
 
"[T]he Fourteenth Amendment is the primary guaranty for individual rights and liberties through its protection of the privileges and immunities of citizens of the United States, its prohibition on the deprivation of life, liberty, or property without due process of law, and its guaranty of equal protection of the laws...."   http://www.lsc.state.oh.us/analyses125/hjr04-i-125.pdf
 
The subsequent sections of the Amendment was designed to protect the Constitution from Subversion by Rebels, by restraining Traitors against the Constitution from voting or holding office.  If that is what you mean by "crime", then yes, maybe it should be a crime for a traitor or any intruder in my country (like you) to vote in American elections.  As a Non-American, you have no business voting in elections.  http://temagami.carleton.ca/jmc/cnews/17112000/feature.htm  
 
I agree that "terminating US citizenship is a right."  The point that L.B. Bork seems to ignore is that once one terminates his US citizenship, he has no Constitutional Right to be a State-Citizen, and has have no Constitutional Right to Remain within any of the united States.  If you are not a US citizen, you are an Alien, and you can be deported.  "Any alien who is present in the United States in violation of this chapter or any other law of the United States is deportable."  http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/1227.html
 
It is the right of an American Citizen to "flee" this country in order to escape Income Tax, or any other condition.  In 1981 Ronald Reagan lowered taxes. The following year not a single American gave up his citizenship. In 1993 the expatriate community grew by 306 names.    "One in five Americans has considered leaving America, three million Americans would do so right this moment if they only knew how..."  But, the American People have declared it to be their right to recoup a "Tax" from those who benefitted as adults from their prior citizenship during the years before they chose to leave. "You'll need an ace attorney. If the Internal Revenue Service suspects you are renouncing your citizenship to avoid taxes, it will try to tax your holdings for another ten years, no matter where you live.  All the IRS need establish is that it is reasonable to believe you gave up citizenship to avoid taxes. Then, the burden of proving the move was not for tax reasons falls on the former citizen.  But whatever the drawbacks, many nations put out the welcome mat for tax-averse Americans."  http://www.escapeartist.com/library/article7.htm
 
"A review of selected sections of the Congressional Record provides some additional insight into the thinking behind these new provisions. 'It has come to the attention of Congress that some very wealthy individuals have been relinquishing their citizenship to avoid U.S. income, estate and gift tax. The bill does not want to discourage citizens from exercising their right to expatriate, but does not want to provide a tax incentive for such an action...' "  http://www.cyberhaven.com/offshorelibrary/expattax.html
 
"The American Dream is not socialism, and it bothers me when people confuse it inasmuch."  http://www.scioly.org/obb/read.php?TID=3693&page=3
 
"The wealthiest people in the United States - those who have achieved the American Dream - those who pay almost all of the taxes - those who are responsible for the vast majority of US investment capital - are leaving the United States in large and growing numbers.  This isn't news.  We have known about the growing expatriation rate for some time and common sense tells us that it isn't the poor who are leaving.  But, new data that we have uncovered confirms that it is indeed, the wealthiest Americans, who are being forced to leave.  Furthermore, we can now expect to see this government induced capital flight increase dramatically in the near future .... This is a very serious problem, because as we have shown in previous articles, if only the top earning 1% of taxpayers leave (just over a million taxpayers), it will mean a loss of over one-third of income tax revenue, requiring a 50% tax increase for those who remain.  It would be a serious mistake to call those who are leaving, unpatriotic.  After all, what could be more patriotic than defending the American Dream.  In fact, all that they are doing is responding to a recent spate of oppressive laws, designed to punish the wealthy for having achieved the American Dream.  If anyone in this equation is unpatriotic, it is our elected lawmakers, who are attacking the American Dream and forcing these patriotic Americans to defend what they have achieved, by taking it elsewhere."  http://www.actionamerica.org/taxecon/defdream.html
 
It began in the early 1990's when thousands of rich Americans began to leave America. They did so by renouncing their American citizenship and reestablishing citizenship in low-tax or no-tax countries. They were called tax exiles and as soon as the word got out about the trend the U.S. Congress reacted to try to stop it before the trend spread out of control.  Congress responded in 1996 by imposing a ten-year tax on expatriated Americans. Get this, they claimed that even if you renounced your citizenship and were no longer a citizen, they would still tax you for another ten years regardless of your citizenship or your residency.
 
L.B. Bork, you are clearly NOT Practicing what you Preach.  You have NOT "terminated your US citizenship" you have just pretended that you have done so for fraudulent purposes, so that you sell nonsense to the gullible and the desparate.
 
Congress expressly recognized the right of all American citizens, and of all Foreigners, to Expatriate themselves. See The “Expatriation Act,” (15 Stat. 223, 8 U.S.C. Sec. 1482 and 1483; 22)  It is not necessary for anyone to pay a con-man like LB Bork before exercising that right.
 
"The expatriation law Congress implemented in the 1860's was intended for the benefit of people who were immigrating from other countries to America. It wasn't intended to create a special class of American who isn't subject to the Constitution and laws of the United States and constitutions and laws of States of the Union. So long as someone remains in any given geographical location, he or she is subject to the law of the land, whatever it is. Article III of the U.S. Constitution reserves jurisdiction over foreign ministers, etc., but even recognized dignitaries are accountable to the law. They may be ordered to leave rather than being prosecuted for many offenses, but they're held accountable nonetheless." 
 
"Although designed to apply especially to the rights of immigrants to shed their foreign nationalities, that Act of Congress "is also broad enough to cover, and does cover, the corresponding natural and inherent right of American citizens to expatriate themselves." Savorgnan v. United States, 1950, 338 U.S. 491, 498 note 11, 70 S. Ct. 292, 296, 94 L. Ed. 287.[2] The Supreme Court has held that the Citizenship Act of 1907 and the Nationality Act of 1940 "are to be read in the light of the declaration of policy favoring freedom of expatriation which stands unrepealed." Id., 338 U.S. at pages 498-499, 70 S. Ct. at page 296.That same light, I think, illuminates 22 U.S.C.A. § 211a and 8 U.S.C.A.§ 1185.” 
Walter Briehl v. John Foster Dulles, 284 F2d 561, 583 (1957).
 
Don, if you want to Terminate your US citizenship (i.e., Expatriate yourself), you do not have to PAY a Con-Man like LB Bork to help you to perilously pretend that you did so, and you can do it for FREE by following the methods outlined at http://www.irs.gov/formspubs/page/0,,id=10664,00.html 
 
"Moreover, as far as the US is concerned, the renouncing of US citizenship can only take place with a formal written request signed by you, or if a US court convicts you of treason, espionage, or serving in a foreign government or foreign armed forces."  http://www.mail-archive.com/fukuzawa@ucsd.edu/msg04200.html 
 
And, the standard Expatriation process could be made even easier by an addition to the so-called USA PATRIOT ACT:
 
"The Bush Administration is preparing a bold, comprehensive sequel to the USA Patriot Act passed in the wake of September 11, 2001, which will give the government broad, sweeping new powers to increase domestic intelligence-gathering, surveillance and law enforcement prerogatives, and simultaneously decrease judicial review and public access to information.  ...  Section 501, Expatriation of Terrorists: This provision, the drafters say, would establish that an American citizen could be expatriated if, with the intent to relinquish his nationality, he becomes a member of, or provides material support to, a group that the United Stated has designated as a terrorist organization. But whereas a citizen formerly had to state his intent to relinquish his citizenship, the new law affirms that his intent can be 'inferred' from conduct. Thus, engaging in the lawful activities of a group designated as a 'terrorist organization' by the Attorney General could be presumptive grounds for expatriation."
 
Thus, under the provision of that proposd Law, all that Mr. L.B Bork really needs to do to TRUELY be able to SELL you Expatriation as a US citizen, is to get his PAC organization identifed as "a terrorist organization" and then, simply by supporting him, you will in fact loose your US citizenship.
 
"And if you try to renounce [your US citizenship], they will treat you like a tax dodger, with sanctions including blacklisting you in the Federal Registry, denying you reentry into the US indefinitely, and taxing your projected earnings for the next ten years after renouncing."  http://www.mail-archive.com/fukuzawa@ucsd.edu/msg04200.html
 
L.B.Bork is a simple Con-Man offereing for sale what he CANNOT DELIVER:  Expatriation with a continuing Right to Remain within the territory of any of the united States of America.  There is however a way for a former US citizen to enter or remain in the US without having citizenship, and that is to obtain a "visa." E.g., a " H-1B visa that allows him to remain in the country" for a limited time.  http://www.taxanalysts.com/www/readingsintaxpolicy.nsf/0/F5FBC36F0AB5009485256B1F0066EA0D?OpenDocument   But, this will not help you avoid Income Taxes.   "Foreigners who are U.S. residents are taxed as U.S. citizens. The United States also taxes foreigners (nonresident aliens) on their U.S.-source income and some U.S. business income (effectively connected income). When these policies are applied to U.S. citizens who renounce their citizenship, the law asks whether they should be deemed to have a continuing connection with the United States." http://www.taxanalysts.com/www/readingsintaxpolicy.nsf/0/F5FBC36F0AB5009485256B1F0066EA0D?OpenDocument 
 
L.B. Bork CANNOT sell you a "visa" allowing you to remain in this Country.  All he can do is TAKE YOUR MONEY and convince ridiculously STUPID people that they are no longer US citizens.
 
And, you can just forget about owning guns if you renounce your US citizenship.  " Ms. Bottygeig can't drive to the Kmart and buy guns with other Americans because she is literally un-American. She has renounced her U.S. citizenship and joined up with some other nation.  The right to expatriate is fundamental; the British subjects who claimed
their freedom in North America in 1776 cited it as a law of nature in the
Declaration of Independence. In today's America, though, expatriates are a
lot less respectable than they were then. The gun law casts them onto a heap
with the rest of America's least loved."  http://www.mail-archive.com/fukuzawa@ucsd.edu/msg04200.html 
 
In New York, it is a felony for anyone who is not a citizen to possess any gun within the state.  Non-citizens do not enjoy the "Right of the People" of the United States to keep and Bear Arms here.
 
So, Don, if you must, then expatriate yourself, and vote with your feet on your way out of this country.  But don't particupate in the FRAUDs that L.B. Bork sells to desparate fools.
 
Whatever LB Bork says about the "Debt" clause of the Fourteenth Amendment is probably also fraudulent:
 
"[W]e are forced by every logical conclusion by the facts as we ourselves see them, that the Fourteenth Amendment's Section 4 was intended to be regarded as the equivalent of more at a "resolution" to excuse or forgive by force of a constitutional amendment that the public debt that had arisen as a result of the Civil War itself - THAT public debt was not to be questioned! NOT every public debt that might exist thereafter! Remember, no indication has been given here as to future public debts that might arise thereafter, but rather it is "the" public debt, and furthermore you will note that the word "debt" itself is also SINGULAR! One debt. By the simple logic that says this, "what if we, the people of the United States, actually paid off the 'public debt' at any time, right? Would the next debt that might be incurred thereafter be construed to be the same public debt? NO, certainly not. ...  WE SHOULD AND MUST BEGIN TO QUESTION THE NATIONAL DEBT, WHICH IS OUR RIGHT AND OUR DUTY, AND THE 14th AMENDMENT, SECTION 4, IN NO WISE PROHIBITS US OR DENIES OUR RIGHT IN DOING SO, THE COURTS OR THE CONGRESS' PRIOR ERRANT INTERPRETATION THEREOF   NOT-WITH-STANDING!"   http://www.worldnewsstand.net/money/14th-amend-and-national-debt.html
 
Thus, everyhing that L.B. Bork says to induce American citizens to PAY him $$$ is apparently fraudulent.  He cannot and does not deliver what he promises. He is merely exploiting the stupid, increasing the influence of Marxist (Democrats) in US elections, and is sowing the seeds of Anti-Americanism on the part of those who remain within the territory of the united States.
 
Mark R. Ferran BSEE scl JD mcl
 
P.S.  Mr. Bork.  Do you even know what the letters "scl" and "mcl" mean?
 
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From: Mark Ferran [mailto:mferran@nycap.rr.com] 
www.billstlclair.com/ferran
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 2:35 PM
To: L.B
Subject: Re: US citizens

Mr. Bork:

I presume that what you are saying is that you have no intelligent response to my criticisms of your published statements, your deceitful writings, and your demands for money from people who you want to sell non-citizenship to.  You have conceded that you are aiding and abetting the Marxist Democrats by neutralizing the VOTES of those American citizens who would vote against increases of the Federal Income Tax and against Marxist Policies.  Thus, unless you have anything more to say in your defense before I publish my report, this hearing is closed. 

P.S.   Now would be a good time to disclose your primary supporters, so that we can get on to investigating their Anti-"American" views as well.  What was the name of that NH fellow you said you owned?

 

----- Original Message -----

From: L.B

Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 3:05 PM

Subject: RE: US citizens

 You are a RETARD, Ferran… I imagine that kids beat you up in school.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Ferran [mailto:mferran@nycap.rr.com]  
www.billstlclair.com/ferran
Sent:
Tuesday, October 21, 2003 1:54 PM
To: L.B; 'Donald E. Wert'
Subject: Re: US citizens

For the Record.

 I do not "support" the ADL in any way.  The ADL seems to be a leftist organization.  They distort much of what they say about "right wing" folks, including "landowners" who defend their property whom they falsely refer to as "vigilantees." [See "Mexican Infiltrator" at www.billstlclair.com/ferran ]   But the ADL does perform some valuable public services, such as publishing third party studies, and exposing conmen and predators like Mr. LB Bork. If they have not identified L B. Bork as a Paytriot con man on their webpages, maybe it is because L.B. Bork is a Traitor against "American" citizens, and seeks to neutralize the Votes of Anti-Communists among the American People.  Thus, perhaps LB Bork is being propped up and supported by the ADL, or by the leftists who run the ADL.  LB Bork has also been associated with "JAH" who is a known Foreigner intent upon overthrowing the American form of Self-Government. 

So, Don, if you have even the slightest respect for your Country (the United States of America), and you don't want to be remembered as a Traitor against your Country and against fellow citizens, you might want to reevaluate what you have been told by the L.B. Bork fellow and other Anti-American subversives who will tell you anything that will cause you to pay them money.   If you have no respect for your country and its citizens, and you don't want to "belong" to it and to them, then exercise your right to Expatriate yourself, and notify the IRS and the INS that you have intentionally disclaimed your birthright status as a US citizen and that you wish to be treated like a non-citizen.  Just don't complain if they grant your request and deport you.


 
Subject: FYI: Ohio ReRatified the 14th Amendment http://www.cincypost.com/2003/09/10/ratify09-10-2003.html

Ohio Ratified the Fourteenth Amendment in September 2003.  See other states' ratification dates at: http://members.tripod.com/bcq/fourteenth_amendment.html
 
Ohio to correct 'crazy history'
State to re-ratify 14th Amendement

By Roy Wood and Barry M. Horstman
Post staff reporters

Next week, Ohio will take a long-overdue step forward into the 21st century -- by momentarily stepping back into the 19th century.

To set the historical record straight after 135 years, Ohio is about to complete re-ratification of the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, the measure that initially gave freed slaves citizenship and later would be used by courts to extend virtually every personal liberty and right granted in the Bill of Rights.

The Ohio General Assembly originally ratified the amendment in 1867, but after Ohio voters later that year defeated a referendum to give African-Americans the right to vote, a newly elected Democratic-controlled Legislature rescinded Ohio's ratification in 1868.

Ohio's official position on the amendment has hung in limbo since -- which, among other unintended consequences, has allowed hate groups to seize on the issue to promote causes such as school segregation.

"I thought there was some kind of mistake when I heard about it," said Ohio Sen. Mark Mallory, D-Cincinnati. "I was flabbergasted to find out we had this crazy history."

Then-Secretary of State William Seward declared the 14th Amendment valid in July 1868, after legislatures of 28 of the 37 states had approved it to meet the three-fourths threshold required. Ohio was counted among those states approving it, even though it had by then rescinded its January 1867 ratification.

The U.S. Supreme Court has never ruled on whether a state can rescind its ratification of a constitutional amendment.

"It's been unclear what Ohio's position is," Mallory said. "I think it's important for the rest of the country to know where we stand."

A group of University of Cincinnati law students who learned in class about Ohio's rescission made Mallory aware of the unusual situation in September 2002. The students were part of the law school's Urban Justice Institute, set up after the 2001 riots to address justice-related problems.

"At first the whole (14th Amendment) project seemed ceremonial, but the more we got into it, the more important we realized it was to actually do this," said Dan Dodd, a UC law school grad now living in New Lexington and waiting to learn whether he passed the bar exam.

Urban Justice Institute students doing Internet searches found that hate groups have often tried to capitalize on Ohio's lack of support for the 14th Amendment to push their extremist causes. "A lot of fringe and extremist groups seized on Ohio's rescission," Dodd said.

After students researched the votes that led to the ambiguity about Ohio's position on the 14th Amendment, they worked with Cincinnati City Council Member John Cranley, a co-director of the Urban Justice Institute, to get Mallory involved.

With Mallory as chief sponsor, legislation was introduced in both houses of the General Assembly to ratify the amendment, which passed the Senate in February and the House in March, though not without controversy.

Some House members took issue with how the amendment has been used in federal court cases to erode states' rights in areas such as abortion and school prayer. The House ultimately passed the measure by a 94-1 vote, with the lone 'no' vote being cast by Rep. Tom Brinkman, R-Cincinnati.

The debate also was marred by an ugly verbal attack on Mallory by Rep. Tim Grendell, a Cleveland-area Republican. Grendell, who is white, said he doubted that Mallory, who is black, could understand the Supreme Court's historic 1896 Plessy v. Ferguson decision, in which the 14th amendment was used to establish the doctrine of "separate but equal,'' or forced segregation, in public schools.

"He's the only reason I might support the OhioReads program,'' Grendell said of Mallory, referring to the state's volunteer tutoring program for schoolchildren. Grendell later apologized.

Cordiality and smiles will be the order of the day, however, at next Wednesday's special ceremony at the Statehouse marking Ohio's ratification. At the Transmittal Ceremony, Secretary of State Ken Blackwell will officially deliver Ohio's ratification papers to Gov. Bob Taft, who in turn will forward them to representatives of the U.S. National Archives and Records Administration.

"Until March of this year, Ohio had unfortunate distinction as the only state that had not either ratified the 14th Amendment before it became law or later expressed support for it," Mallory said.

Kentucky was among several states that originally rejected the amendment, but in the 20th century joined Delaware and Maryland in finally ratifying it -- a symbolic gesture, but nonetheless a significant one, particularly to civil rights groups. In 1980, when New Jersey, which like Ohio had rescinded its ratification, expressed its support, Ohio was left as the only state not on record in favor of the 14th amendment.

The key section of the amendment says: "No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.''

Beyond making former slaves citizens, the 14th amendment -- in particular, its equal protection clause -- has been used by the U.S. Supreme Court to outlaw racial segregation in schools (the landmark 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education case), to prevent states from prohibiting abortions (1973's Roe v. Wade) and to forbid the use of rigid quotes in public equal opportunity programs (the 1978 Bakke decision.)

Hailed and vilified over the years, the 14th Amendment has, proponents argue, helped to advance justice and civil liberties in America. Critics, however, have denounced it as a tool that has allowed the Supreme Court to broaden judicial review of state and federal laws in ways that improperly interfere with legislators' responsibilities.


Publication Date: 09-10-2003
 
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"Those who would limit the right to keep and bear arms to members of state militias have never come to grips with the intentions of the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment to protect blacks and unionists from southern militias (and others) by enforcing their personal right to arms. Stephen Halbrook presents a brief on behalf of this forgotten history -- a history that no serious student of the Constitution can ignore."

Randy E. Barnett, Austin B. Fletcher Professor
Boston University School of Law
Author of The Structure of Liberty:
Justice and the Rule of Law

http://www.stephenhalbrook.com/freedman.html

Thesis of book by Stephen P. Halbrook:  Freedman, the Fourteenth Amendment, and the Right to Bear Arms, 1866-1876
"After the Civil War, the Southern States reenacted slave code provisions in the form of the black codes, including incidents of slavery such as the prohibition on possession of a weapon by a black person. A major purpose of the civil rights legislation during Reconstruction and of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution was to protect the right of freedmen to keep and bear arms from State infringement. This right proved of great utility to protect other liberties, and even life itself, from racist violence." 
http://www.stephenhalbrook.com/freedman.html

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0275963314/002-0359931-5190409?v=glance

Article online: The Fourteenth Amendment and the Right To Keep and Bear Arms: The Intent of the Framers, By Stephen P. Halbrook  http://www.guncite.com/journals/senrpt/senhal14.html

 

Firearms and the Fourteenth Amendment

By Robert Greenslade

"In their zeal to defend the individual right to keep and bear arms, most firearms owners limit their discussions to the Second Amendment.  There is, however, another amendment that not only helps resolve the controversy surrounding the intent and wording of the Second Amendment, but also makes the prohibition enumerated in that Amendment enforceable against the States.  In the author’s opinion, this is one of the reasons why opponents of the individual right to keep and bear arms, at the State level, are so opposed to this interpretation of the Second Amendment.     In order to understand the effect of the Fourteenth Amendment on the individual right to keep and bear arms, it is necessary to review some of the legislative history surrounding the Amendment."

[Also at: http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/2nd_Amend/fourteenth_amend.htm  and http://www.gunowners.org/op0309.htm ]

Ironically the First Fourteenth Amendment  http://members.tripod.com/~candst/14thamend.htm

"On June 8, 1789 James Madison delivered his long awaited list of proposed amendments to the House of Representatives. After several debates scattered throughout the summer the following is a partial list of the amendments that was passed by the House of Representative and sent on to the Senate. Note especially Article the Fourteenth. That article, passed by the necessary number of votes called for selective incorporation against the state some of the other Articles. This particular article was defeated in the Senate after secret debate and a secret vote. It must be remember at this particular point in time in American History, the House of Representative represented "the people." It's members were elected directly by the people. The Senate, on the other hand, represented the states. It's members were selected by the state legislatures. It is ironic that this particular Article was numbered fourteen and that it called for selective incorporation of other amendments in the "Bill of Rights package" against the states. It is interesting that it was passed by "the people's" representatives, but defeated by the state's representatives. It is very ironic that another Article also numbered fourteen was passed some 79 or so years later and that it would, in time be used to selectively incorporate other Articles of the "Bill of Rights package" against the states."

Intent of the Fourteenth Amendment was to Protect All Rights  http://www.constitution.org/col/intent_14th.htm  ("Two of the Bill of Rights that have not been "incorporated" are the Second Amendment and the Fifth.")

Compare with: The Fourteenth Amendment: First Amendment II?  http://www.krusch.com/real/14th.html

"The Fourteenth Amendment (1868) has become the key Constitutional issue of the immigration mess ... The problem is that this has been misinterpreted in recent years to mean simply that anyone born in the U.S, under any circumstances, is an American citizen. This is neither the original intent of the law nor the way it was interpreted by the courts in subsequent decades. Some Americans speak of birthright citizenship as if it were an immutable law of nature. It is not, and most other nations do not, in fact, recognize it. It is only a bad habit that could be broken with a simple Executive Order. "   http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=2869

 
----- Original Message -----
From: rmarlett
To:  Mark Ferran ;
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 11:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Pretensions of PAYtriots-for-Profit] 

Mark Ferran has, and for good reason [e.g., read about the Invasion below], set out to dispell some of the myths that are constantly destroying the Patriot Movement and it's chances of accomplishing anything.  He has half the dang alphabet behind his name as testimony to the fact that he knows whereof he speaks. His approach to these topics and that of others attempting the same thing may be different, and it may very well be because he is either overqualified to discuss issues of law with those of us who haven't been to law school, or it may be because he realizes just how much damage has been done to our nation by myths such as the one about denouncing citizenship.  
    For the record, if Mark jumps down someones throat to dispell the myth in front of countless people, then so be it. I'd hope that many would learn, even if the one were offended.  I would hope that even the one sternly counseled would also learn...   For the good of the entire Patriot movement, however - I'd sooner see one, or even several of those spreading the myths become offended and leave than see their damaging myths spread on to countless others.
 
Robert Marlett, CEO  
Freedom's Cry Foundation
http://www.freedomscry.us/ 
http://www.wilderness-cry.com/rmarlett/
 
----- Original Message -----
From: rmarlett <rmarlett@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 10:22 PM
Subject: How to destroy the Nation with good intentions

How To Destroy Your Nation

 

How the Patriot Movement has been Self-Defeating

 

            In order to find a means by which to correct the problems within our Nation, I had to spend many, many hours studying what had gone wrong for those who had already tried to accomplish the same goals.  What I found was perhaps more disconcerting than what I expected to find. I expected to find that the political failures were due entirely to the media bias against us – what I found was that media coverage of poorly managed campaigns would probably have done more harm than good.  I expected to find that corruption in the judicial system was the cause for all of the legal losses we’ve suffered – but what I found was piles of legal filings based upon erroneous theories, poorly framed arguments, and philosophy instead of law.  I expected to find that the socialist agenda taught to our kids in public schools was responsible for the total lack of understanding they have about proper government, but what I found was that parents simply aren’t teaching their children about it at home.   So I ask you – who is responsible for the impotence of the Patriot Movement?  We are.

            How can we lay blame to the Court if we failed to raise the proper arguments, or follow the Court’s procedures? How can we blame the Court if we raised no argument based solidly in law, but tried instead to get a Court of law to make a ruling based upon philosophy? How can we claim the Court is in error when we failed to properly research the law and frame an argument based upon it?  Far more importantly, How dare we allow a legal precedent to be established which will help defeat all other Patriots who follow after us, simply because we failed to properly proceed with our case.

           ...            How can we blame the schools for filling the minds of our children with socialist agendas when we fail to teach them the truth at home? How can we blame the state for not doing our job the way we want it done? How dare we claim on the one hand that the failure of the family is the fault of the state, and on the other hand not take the time to teach our children how things should be? How dare we as parents blame our failure on the influence of the state and local officials we helped get elected by either not getting involved at all or by sponsoring and supporting candidates who simply had no chance of getting elected either due to their own faults, or the poor management of their campaigns?  And I ask again, who is at fault for the lack of understanding in our children?  We are.

 

            With all that said, let me explain what needs done now.  There is no benefit in pointing out the mistakes of well intended Patriots unless it is accompanied by instructions for avoiding those same mistakes. The failures are our own, now let’s fix them.

Using the Judicial System

            The losses we’ve suffered in the courts can largely be attributed to a few basic causes, although they manifest themselves in very different ways in different cases. It is important to note a few basic facts though, which seriously affect every single case.

1)      The judicial system is composed of courts of law, not theory and not morality. If the court begins to recognize theories, philosophies, or codes of morality, then the court has lost all integrity as to issues of law. If the court recognizes any philosophy or code of morality, then it must also recognize opposing philosophies or codes of morality. It would soon become impossible to distinguish what the law is, and is not – and the court would have to adopt as its own a philosophy or code of morality.  This would effectively cause the Court to be a legislative body, and would be totally detrimental to the cause of Constitutional government.  Many theories, philosophies, and moral codes are indicated within laws, but only the laws – not the supported theories, are useable in a court of law.

2)      The courts have established rules by which they operate. Failing to abide by those rules can defeat any case at any time… simply put, play by the rules, or you lose no matter how good your argument is. (learning the rules and forcing opposing counsel to follow them can be rather effective as well.)

3)      The judicial process is slow… if you’re not willing to stay the course, don’t start the race. There is nothing accomplished if you aren’t willing to devote years to the fight.

4)      If you aren’t willing to take the time and spend the effort to do the job correctly, don’t cause problems for those who are.  Improperly filed or poorly framed cases do far more harm than good, and simply shouldn’t be filed in the first place. They do far more harm than good.

 

If all you seek to do is make a statement, I’d suggest using the local newspaper. If you want to accomplish anything in the court system you’ll have to follow the Rules of Procedure perfectly, and base your arguments upon the only two sources of authority recognized by the court: law and case law (prior rulings of the courts).  Arguments based upon a ruling which has been overturned since it was originally made will almost always fail, so do your homework before using it. Be sure to cite the laws on which you base every argument, any case law which supports your position, and what law gives the court in which you are filing your complaint jurisdiction in the case. You must also cite what harm you have suffered and from whom when you file a complaint.  Trying to “pile it on” by creating charges not based in applicable law will do far more harm than good – don’t bother. Be specific with the charges, and cite the proper laws, or you’ll be shooting yourself in the foot.

[abridged here: contact Robert Marlett for Full-Text]   

Robert Marlett, CEO  
Freedom's Cry Foundation
http://www.freedomscry.us/ 
http://www.wilderness-cry.com/rmarlett/